2010-2011 NFC North Division

[hairy worthen]

But will he make sure to pass on pictures of it showing us all how black and blue it is?

I hope you are talking about his ankle.

[jmayer1]

The poor sportsmanship exhibited by the fans at Limbeau was disgraceful. 

Favre is on a another team that happens to be a fierce division rival.  There is a time to thank him for his achievements as Packer, but that time is in the future when he comes back to have his jersey retired; not before, during, or after a game when he is still playing against the home team in a game that might determine the division title.

What is truly disgraceful is for not enough fans to even show up to sell out your crappy stadium, forcing a local corporation to have to shell out for some tickets to keep the game from being blacked out.  Are the Vikings in Minneapolis or Jacksonville?

[SaintPaulWarrior]

Are the Vikings in Minneapolis or Jacksonville?

Or in St. Pete disguising themselves as a Tampa Bay team?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Did I miss something?  They booed Favre, big deal.  There looked to be plenty of Favre jerseys in the crowd and certainly a number of signs thanking him.  I'm sure there were fans that were letting him have it as well, but exactly what was disgraceful?

[martyconlonontherun]

This volleyball thing you speak of... this is a guy's sport?

Favre cannot possibly 'win' in any way in the minds of some of the people in this thread... if he plays at New England, and someone in the crowd shoots him, he is spurting blood but stays in the game... the next day we'll hear, "well it was only a .22..."... ".. it didn't even hit a major artery.. he's not that tough"...  

It's only because ESPN has an 'expert' come on and say it would take a 'miracle' for him to play. Really? A miracle? Funny how SI is reporting that most QBs would play on it if it was a playoff game.

I know it isn't always Favre's fault but it is never clear cut with him. He won't say whether or not he will play til Sunday? Do you see any kind of pattern here?

It's more of the media over hyping him than us bringing him down. We are bringing the media's coverage down. Play or don't play. Just don't be on ESPN 24/7, it's not like you are doing any better than your backup would.

[SaintPaulWarrior]

According to this website for the top 10 d-bags in the NFL Cutler is #2 and Favre is #3.

http://thepigskindoctors.com/2010/10/top-ten-nfl-douchebags/

[MUEng92]

There looked to be plenty of Favre jerseys in the crowd and certainly a number of signs thanking him.

I noticed there were two signs and only two signs they kept showing on the NBC broadcast and both were supportive of Favre.  Each time they showed them I kept thinking there were probably 10x as many signs that were, let's say, less than supportive of Favre.  I spoke to a coworker who was at the game and she confirmed that there were many more signs against than pro-Favre.  Once again, don't always believe what you see on TV.

Granted, most of the anti-Favre signs could probably only have been shown on pay TV, but I would hope there were a few "clean" signs they could have shown to be "fair and balanced".  Wait, wrong network.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I noticed there were two signs and only two signs they kept showing on the NBC broadcast and both were supportive of Favre.  Each time they showed them I kept thinking there were probably 10x as many signs that were, let's say, less than supportive of Favre.  I spoke to a coworker who was at the game and she confirmed that there were many more signs against than pro-Favre.  Once again, don't always believe what you see on TV.

Granted, most of the anti-Favre signs could probably only have been shown on pay TV, but I would hope there were a few "clean" signs they could have shown to be "fair and balanced".  Wait, wrong network.

Fair enough, but I'm wondering if Jay Bee was in the crowd to see those or was he just saying it to say it?

For anyone around the league or around the Packers for the last 2 decades, we all know that the city, team, etc put up with a lot of nonsense from Favre. I'll right out and say the word COVERUP in many cases.  His behavior of late is consistent with what he's done for decades.  GB fans probably finally said enough.  Enough of covering for this guy left and right especially when he jilted them at the altar.  If Packer fans are disrespectful or whatever....well, they're entitled to be.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I'll right out and say the word COVERUP in many cases.  His behavior of late is consistent with what he's done for decades.  GB fans probably finally said enough.  Enough of covering for this guy left and right especially when he jilted them at the altar.  If Packer fans are disrespectful or whatever....well, they're entitled to be.

#1 I agree that Favre has been a big-egoed maniac for most of his life. It's part of his DNA, and quite frankly, it's part of what allows him to be great at football.

#2 I agree that he was provided a lot of leeway by the local authorities and fans. Let's just say I've heard a lot of Water St. stories, and while I'm sure not all are factual, it's not that hard to believe.

#3 (this is where we disagree) I don't think Packer fans are suddenly taking some moral stance against #4's behavior. I think he wears a different jersey now, so it's a lot easier to be critical of the guy. When he was doing painkillers, cheating on his wife and winning superbowls, he was St. Brett. When he was throwing 30 TDs for the Vikes, he was public enemy #1.

Same guy. Same attitude. Different jersey.

I don't mean this as a shot at GB fans, but let's not applaud them too much for doing what comes natural, hating a rival player.

[LON]

I was at the game, some examples of the signs:

Quite a few with "It's a game of inches" used in some way

"We'd rather see a Clay Matthews sack"

"Hey Favre, Keep the Wranglers on"

Purple jerseys with the name "Pevre" on the back

"Hey Favre, we already knew you were crazy, but now we see your nuts!"

One sign went through all his accomplishments/accolades and then said he is now the only NFL player to "record his own sack"


As far as poor sportsmanship, our section saw 4 Vikings fans (and 1 Packer fan) escorted from the game for unruly behavior.  The Vikings opted to be introduced as a team as well so Favre wasn't singled out to the rain of boos like last year.  Once again, Jay Bee...you don't seem to know what you're talking about.

[dsfire]

#3 (this is where we disagree) I don't think Packer fans are suddenly taking some moral stance against #4's behavior. I think he wears a different jersey now, so it's a lot easier to be critical of the guy. When he was doing painkillers, cheating on his wife and winning superbowls, he was St. Brett. When he was throwing 30 TDs for the Vikes, he was public enemy #1.

I don't think you're disagreeing with Chicos.

[MerrittsMustache]

As far as poor sportsmanship, our section saw 4 Vikings fans (and 1 Packer fan) escorted from the game for unruly behavior.  The Vikings opted to be introduced as a team as well so Favre wasn't singled out to the rain of boos like last year.  Once again, Jay Bee...you don't seem to know what you're talking about.

Why didn't they just introduce the defense? Looks like Chilly bungled another one! 

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I don't think you're disagreeing with Chicos.

Well, specifically, I disagree with the idea that Packer fans have just said "enough" with Brett's behavior and now don't like him.

They don't like him because he's a viking. His behavior doesn't have that much to do with it... if it did, people would have been hating him for the past 20 years.

I know a lot of GB fans will claim it's Favre's whole "act" over the last 3 years that has driven them away... but let's just be honest, when he plays for your own team, you overlook a lot of stuff.

Now that he wears purple, it's easy to hate him.

[hairy worthen]

Well, specifically, I disagree with the idea that Packer fans have just said "enough" with Brett's behavior and now don't like him.

They don't like him because he's a viking. His behavior doesn't have that much to do with it... if it did, people would have been hating him for the past 20 years.

I know a lot of GB fans will claim it's Favre's whole "act" over the last 3 years that has driven them away... but let's just be honest, when he plays for your own team, you overlook a lot of stuff.

Now that he wears purple, it's easy to hate him.

Exactly. But I think it goes deeper than that. Brett was our own, almost part of the family. He was human. He made mistakes just like a family member would and we overlooked them just like we would a family member. He said in so many words that he was a packer for life and couldn't see himself in any other uniform. I remember him saying that when the packers didn't want him anymore, that he was done. Then he orchastrates the whole retire, unretire episode to ultimately play in Minnesota and then said he felt appreciated there. I think that is when most fans turned on him like an ex wife who hooked up with your best friend.

As far as booing being disrepectful and unclassy, give me a break. He is a freaking viking. I am guessing there are plenty of viking fans that have booed packers.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Exactly. But I think it goes deeper than that. Brett was our own, almost part of the family. He was human. He made mistakes just like a family member would and we overlooked them just like we would a family member. He said in so many words that he was a packer for life and couldn't see himself in any other uniform. I remember him saying that when the packers didn't want him anymore, that he was done. Then he orchastrates the whole retire, unretire episode to ultimately play in Minnesota and then said he felt appreciated there. I think that is when most fans turned on him like an ex wife who hooked up with your best friend.

As far as booing being disrepectful and unclassy, give me a break. He is a freaking viking. I am guessing there are plenty of viking fans that have booed packers.

Agree 100%.

That's why some of the "Well, now we realize he's a douche" attitude from some Packer fans is a bit hypocritical.

He was always a douche, but when he wore Green and Gold, he was YOUR douche.

ESPN has always loved Brett and over-promoted him. You guys are just noticing it now.

[GOMU1104]

I loved and backed Favre for the 16 years he was in Green Bay. When he went to the Jets, I hoped he did well, still rooted for him.  But when he went to the Vikings, I decided to suspend those thoughts until he finally retired.  Because he went to the team I hate the most, and is now playing in front of the fans that I hate the most...I wish him nothing but bad things on the field.

Once he retires, I will look back at his career, and he will go down as my favorite athlete to watch of all time.  Until then...F em.

Great video just dug up from his days as a 23 year old.

http://www.espnmilwaukee.com/blogs/drew.php

Nothing wrong with it at all. Just funny.

[ATWizJr]

Agree totally.  He was always a prima donna, but he was our prima donna.  After all the jerking around of Packer mgmt. that he did, he's now dead to me.  F 'em in spades.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I loved and backed Favre for the 16 years he was in Green Bay. When he went to the Jets, I hoped he did well, still rooted for him.  But when he went to the Vikings, I decided to suspend those thoughts until he finally retired.  Because he went to the team I hate the most, and is now playing in front of the fans that I hate the most...I wish him nothing but bad things on the field.

Once he retires, I will look back at his career, and he will go down as my favorite athlete to watch of all time.  Until then...F em.

Great video just dug up from his days as a 23 year old.

http://www.espnmilwaukee.com/blogs/drew.php

Nothing wrong with it at all. Just funny.

Awesome video.

[dsfire]

Well, specifically, I disagree with the idea that Packer fans have just said "enough" with Brett's behavior and now don't like him.

They don't like him because he's a viking. His behavior doesn't have that much to do with it... if it did, people would have been hating him for the past 20 years.

I know a lot of GB fans will claim it's Favre's whole "act" over the last 3 years that has driven them away... but let's just be honest, when he plays for your own team, you overlook a lot of stuff.

Now that he wears purple, it's easy to hate him.

My point was, I think Chicos was saying the same thing.  He even mentioned "Enough of covering for this guy left and right especially when he jilted them at the altar."  I doubt many people would believe there's some sort of moral line being drawn in the sand here.

[GOMU1104]

Awesome video.

I still cant get over him taking a pull from the bottle of vodka, and not having any reaction. Like it was water...

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

My point was, I think Chicos was saying the same thing.  He even mentioned "Enough of covering for this guy left and right especially when he jilted them at the altar."  I doubt many people would believe there's some sort of moral line being drawn in the sand here.

Yea, maybe I'm just reading it wrong.

My point is: I don't think Packer fans are making some conscious decision that Brett's act is old and now they dislike him. I think he plays for another team, so it's easy to be critical of him now.

I only bring this up because I talked with some GB fans who insisted that it was because Brett was just a bad guy now and that's why they really don't like him anymore (plus media over-hype) It didn't have to do with his jersey, it was because he was just a bad person, so they liked to take shots at him, and Brett deserved it because he was "bad".

I just don't think those people are being honest with themselves.

Brett was always "bad", so don't climb some moral ground now that he's wearing purple.

[LON]

I loved and backed Favre for the 16 years he was in Green Bay. When he went to the Jets, I hoped he did well, still rooted for him.  But when he went to the Vikings, I decided to suspend those thoughts until he finally retired.  Because he went to the team I hate the most, and is now playing in front of the fans that I hate the most...I wish him nothing but bad things on the field.

Once he retires, I will look back at his career, and he will go down as my favorite athlete to watch of all time.  Until then...F em.

Great video just dug up from his days as a 23 year old.

http://www.espnmilwaukee.com/blogs/drew.php

Nothing wrong with it at all. Just funny.

Agree 100%

[MUEng92]

I was at the game, some examples of the signs:

Thanks alot.  I'm having a relaxing lunch at work and now I have to track down a rag to wipe the turkey sandwich remnants off my monitor screen!

[mu-rara]

Well, specifically, I disagree with the idea that Packer fans have just said "enough" with Brett's behavior and now don't like him.

They don't like him because he's a viking. His behavior doesn't have that much to do with it... if it did, people would have been hating him for the past 20 years.

I know a lot of GB fans will claim it's Favre's whole "act" over the last 3 years that has driven them away... but let's just be honest, when he plays for your own team, you overlook a lot of stuff.

Now that he wears purple, it's easy to hate him.

That about sums it up.

[Jay Bee]

Do you folks boo opponents at basketball games?  I think the last time I did was several years ago when Fordham was in Milwaukee and they were taking physical cheap shots and trying to injure our guys. 

I realize many of you gazed at the Favre poster taped above your bed every night for many years and are now heartbroken.  But to boo your hero is disgraceful.  Especially when you want him to retire with that ugly Packers jersey on.  I'm not a fan of booing -- there are a few select circumstances when I'm OK / understanding of it, but those circumstances certainly don't include being a whiney little group of hypocrites who d***ed over their hero and are now mad he had a great year with the enemy/Consensus.

Go check the tape of McNabb's return to Philly.