2010-2011 NFC North Division

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The Score is reporting Favre fractured his ankle.

[Jay Bee]

Two fractures. 

"Childress also said the NFL has told him Visanthe Shiancoe's touchdown last night should not have been overruled, and that if he had challenged the second Packers touchdown, it would have been overruled."

CHEATERS!!!!

[SaintPaulWarrior]

Two fractures. 

and that if he had challenged the second Packers touchdown, it would have been overruled."

CHEATERS!!!!

Lovie didn't challenge a call that was a TD by Cutler that turned into a fumble.....could be we just both have very dumb coaches.

[StillAWarrior]

The Score is reporting Favre fractured his ankle.

I wonder if he's done for the season.  Does that mean I can already begin looking forward to the annual "will he or won't he" next summer?

[Jay Bee]

I wonder if he's done for the season.  Does that mean I can already begin looking forward to the annual "will he or won't he" next summer?

Word is this doesn't require surgery.  He is in boot and may still be a go for Sunday's game.  I can't imagine him being back another year - he is on his death bed right now. 

@SPWarrior - the claim that Minnesota has a dumb coach is not one I could argue with. 

[SaintPaulWarrior]

 

@SPWarrior - the claim that Minnesota has a dumb coach is not one I could argue with. 

And Lovie being an idiot is more and more a reality as each week passes.  Except next week because he has the week off.

[MU B2002]

At this point saying Chicago has a dumb coach is unfair to dumb people around the world.  How do you not challenge that call?!

[GGGG]

Seriously, given his level of play and this recent injury, if I were the Vikings I would consider sticking him on IR to get rid of the distractions.  Honestly, I don't think Jackson could be much worse at this point.

[SaintPaulWarrior]

At this point saying Chicago has a dumb coach is unfair to dumb people around the world.  How do you not challenge that call?!

Good point...but the thing I think that was going through his mind at the time was that he made a terrible challenge the play before and lost and had cold feet or something....pretty unexplainable.

[JWags85]

I completely disagree. For me he is second only to Troy Aikman, on the analysts rankings, and I think the drop after those guys is severe (Although I find Brian Billick to be pretty good as well. Haven't heard a lot of him however, so I could be wrong.).

Collinsworth's problem is that he is so damn smug and arrogant, or so I get the vibe. That ruins his quality for me.

[SaintPaulWarrior]

Collinsworth's problem is that he is so damn smug and arrogant, or so I get the vibe. That ruins his quality for me.

He should stick to interviewing bobsledders and pole vaulters for the Olympics and stay far away from football.

[GGGG]

He should stick to interviewing bobsledders and pole vaulters for the Olympics and stay far away from football.

You realize that he was an all-pro NFL receiver right?

[NavinRJohnson]

hey, the bears are still in first place.  

"We're in first place in the frickin' idiot league."

[ChicosBailBonds]

Ha, apparently the NFL told Chilly the following, according to Judd Zulgad:

"Childress told by NFL today that Shiancoe TD should have stood and not been overturned."

"Childress also told if he had challenged Packers TD it would have been overturned."

I guess I was mistaken. Oh well. Sucks for them.

If true, I feel better because I honestly don't see how the Shiancoe TD wasn't a TD but I've seen so many odd calls via replay this year, I'm not sure anymore.

Childress is an idiot for not challenging the other one, but that's on him, not on the NFL.

[MUDPT]

Favre sprained his ankle.  An avulsion fracture is when the ligament is so strong that instead of tearing itself, it pulls a little piece of bone off.  It's actually pretty common with a sprained ankle.  So when every commentator says he's a warrior, etc., realize he's only playing on a badly sprained ankle, not a broken leg.

[MerrittsMustache]

Good point...but the thing I think that was going through his mind at the time was that he made a terrible challenge the play before and lost and had cold feet or something....pretty unexplainable.

Lovie took the fall for it, but it's the coaches in the booth who relay to him whether or not to challenge a play. They deserve more of the blame. Not challenging that play was likely the difference between 5-2 and 4-3. That being said, Lovie hired those bumbling fools so I guess it still comes back to him. Hopefully he finds a nice position as a D coordinator next season. Based on tonight's game, Dallas could be looking for one soon.

[LON]

Favre sprained his ankle.  An avulsion fracture is when the ligament is so strong that instead of tearing itself, it pulls a little piece of bone off.  It's actually pretty common with a sprained ankle.  So when every commentator says he's a warrior, etc., realize he's only playing on a badly sprained ankle, not a broken leg.

But will he make sure to pass on pictures of it showing us all how black and blue it is?

[SaintPaulWarrior]

You realize that he was an all-pro NFL receiver right?

Of course I do, but in my opinion he is not a very good announcer....comes off as pretty fake.....my point is that I think he is a very good interviewer.

[wadesworld]

Favre sprained his ankle.  An avulsion fracture is when the ligament is so strong that instead of tearing itself, it pulls a little piece of bone off.  It's actually pretty common with a sprained ankle.  So when every commentator says he's a warrior, etc., realize he's only playing on a badly sprained ankle, not a broken leg.

Yup, I had it happen my senior year of high school. It's definitely not a break, but if he plays next week that's pretty impressive. I was out for 2 weeks because the doctor said I had to be, but there's no way I would've been back in just 1 week. And I never got back to 100% the rest of the season.

I was also playing volleyball and not football. My guess is it'd be worse in football. You're cutting more and it gets into more awkward positions more often, which are the 2 times where it's most painful. Volleyball you're doing a lot of jumping but you aren't turning on it as much.

Although I thought his injury was on his heel (some doctor was explaining it on ESPN yesterday) rather than the ankle, which would probably give it more pain every time it hits the ground but less when it gets turned over and what not

[ChicosBailBonds]

Yup, I had it happen my senior year of high school. It's definitely not a break, but if he plays next week that's pretty impressive. I was out for 2 weeks because the doctor said I had to be, but there's no way I would've been back in just 1 week. And I never got back to 100% the rest of the season.

Vicodin can do wonders

[Jay Bee]

Yup, I had it happen my senior year of high school. It's definitely not a break, but if he plays next week that's pretty impressive. I was out for 2 weeks because the doctor said I had to be, but there's no way I would've been back in just 1 week. And I never got back to 100% the rest of the season.

I was also playing volleyball and not football. My guess is it'd be worse in football. You're cutting more and it gets into more awkward positions more often, which are the 2 times where it's most painful. Volleyball you're doing a lot of jumping but you aren't turning on it as much.

This volleyball thing you speak of... this is a guy's sport?

Favre cannot possibly 'win' in any way in the minds of some of the people in this thread... if he plays at New England, and someone in the crowd shoots him, he is spurting blood but stays in the game... the next day we'll hear, "well it was only a .22..."... ".. it didn't even hit a major artery.. he's not that tough"... 

[GGGG]

Jay Bee, there isn't a single person on this board that wouldn't call Favre tough.  That would be silly.  He clearly is the toughest quarterback to ever play the game.

I just think his time has run out.  I think he knew that he hadn't recovered enough to play this year, but his friends talked him into it, and this is the result. 

When Favre left the field Sunday, I wish the fans would have given him a standing ovation.  For as much as I was pissed at him for screwing over the Packers two years ago, and as much as I would have booed him to start the game, he deserved cheers by the end.

[wadesworld]

This volleyball thing you speak of... this is a guy's sport?

Favre cannot possibly 'win' in any way in the minds of some of the people in this thread... if he plays at New England, and someone in the crowd shoots him, he is spurting blood but stays in the game... the next day we'll hear, "well it was only a .22..."... ".. it didn't even hit a major artery.. he's not that tough"...  

Yes it is a guy's sport.  I actually won a national championship coaching in it this summer.

Anyway, I was pointing out that if he plays this week that's pretty crazy because it's an injury that takes more than one week to heal up, and that it's probably more painful in football than it is in volleyball.  I'm not sure how that's putting down Brent, but if you would like to spin it that way please feel free.

[Jay Bee]

Yes it is a guy's sport.  I actually won a national championship coaching in it this summer.

Anyway, I was pointing out that if he plays this week that's pretty crazy because it's an injury that takes more than one week to heal up, and that it's probably more painful in football than it is in volleyball.  I'm not sure how that's putting down Brent, but if you would like to spin it that way please feel free.

I know, bahdee... my response was partly to take a shot at volleyball in general, so I quoted you, but also to comment on the Favre-hate, which was more in response to MUDPT.

I think Sultan's comments are fair - last year everyone kept telling me how he was going to run out of gas and be horrible a few weeks into the season.. and it never happened.  I feel like it already has this year - he looks done. 

But, he still might give us a great shot in some circumstances.  The conversations here would be quite a bit different if Percy came down with two feet in the endzone... ('wow, what a sh1tty performance by Favre, he looks dead, but he still got it done in Gren Beay').  If we can win yet another NFC North championship this year with Favre behind center, it will be impressive and a nice way for him to end his playing career (although the comments will be about how bad the division was this year; how he needed the Moss trade, AD is the best RB in football so how could we not win it, etc)...

The poor sportsmanship exhibited by the fans at Limbeau was disgraceful. 

Collinsworth always seems like such a dink when he speaks.  So does Chilly

[NavinRJohnson]

(although the comments will be about how bad the division was this year; how he needed the Moss trade, AD is the best RB in football so how could we not win it, etc)...

The poor sportsmanship exhibited by the fans at Limbeau was disgraceful. 

And all of those things would be true.

The poor sportsmanship exhibited by the fans at Limbeau was disgraceful. 

Is this a serious comment? Poor sportsmanship? By fans? Seriously? Who the hell cares?