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QuetteHoops

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Cheating in College Basketball
« on: July 22, 2010, 08:22:05 PM »
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=oneil_dana&id=5398415


Here is a interesting article with college coaches input. There is also an Al reference in there.

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Re: Cheating in College Basketball
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2010, 10:22:50 PM »
Thanks for the post-- the article is long, detailed and very good
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

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Re: Cheating in College Basketball
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2010, 12:19:22 AM »
Good to see the Big East get such nice praise.

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Re: Cheating in College Basketball
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2010, 12:23:31 AM »
wonder if we'll ever find out who the coaches were

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Re: Cheating in College Basketball
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2010, 08:28:13 AM »
wonder if we'll ever find out who the coaches were
I hope not, or we'll never see anything like this again.

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Re: Cheating in College Basketball
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2010, 08:53:10 AM »
That was a great article.  Its nice that she got so many coaches to talk off the record about how shady certain aspects of the game are.  Hopefully the NCAA figures out how to clean this mess up to level the playing field.

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Re: Cheating in College Basketball
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2010, 09:05:17 AM »
If the coaches were willing to divulge as much as they did in the survey, that tells me college basketball is much dirtier than the survey leads us to believe. Deep down, we all know it's dirty, we can only hope that our program's hands are the cleanest. It's nice to see some hard evidence from a decent sample size. Good work by ESPN.   

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Re: Cheating in College Basketball
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2010, 12:06:53 PM »
I'm guessing mostly Big Ten coaches were interviewed.  For them to say the Big Ten is the cleanest is hilarity personified.

The last 15 years they've had

Clem Haskins
Jim O'Brien
Kelvin Sampson
Lou Henson
Steve Alford
Tommy Amaker
Steve Fisher


Just to name a few of the coaches that have pushed or blasted through the envelope.  Stu Jackson is just outside of that 15 year window, but he's another. 

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Re: Cheating in College Basketball
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2010, 12:50:18 PM »
One is Calipari...its pretty obvious.

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Re: Cheating in College Basketball
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2010, 01:35:27 PM »
Pretty obvious? You're way too easy on the guy.

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Re: Cheating in College Basketball
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2010, 05:02:26 PM »
Really nothing has changed, there has been cheating since as long as I know.  John Wooden had his head
in the sand in the 60's-70's as UCLA probably was the biggest cheater of all time.  Marquette paid more
than there sure of players as well.  Kentucky was rampant cheater.  Sam Bowie visited MU, MU money or
Herb Kohl money was chump change compared to what he was offered at Kentucky.  The only difference
now is that your are recruiting with an entourage now.  The family, the AAU coach, Nike and others.  It
is almost ridiculous what is going on today.  Read that ESPN article, ask Bruce Pearl who turned in Illinois,
it took 17 years for him to make up that mistake.  I would love to see a coach write a book on what is
going on, he better be retired if he does.  He would be black balled for life!  I would love to know exactly
what Calipari does, he has done it at 3 colleges.  Josh Pastner must have learned as much as he had a Top
10 class.

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Re: Cheating in College Basketball
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2010, 05:06:51 PM »
If there were 20 coaches surveyed and 11 thought the Big Ten was the cleanest, I would wager six of the 11 who gave that answer were Big Ten coaches. Yeah, they're squeaky clean, all right.

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Re: Cheating in College Basketball
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2010, 05:37:47 PM »
I think the cheating question posed was current. ;)

In the Big 10 I currently only have doubts about O$U and Matta.  Tubby will tiptoe the line but is probably OK. 

I think the Big 12 is probably by far the worst, with the SEC and Big East trailing.

There are so many legal, but completely shady loopholes open right now, it is easy to be "clean" on the surface.  Nobody buys cars or gives cash directly to the family anymore.  The AAU stuff (esp Nike) is a cesspool.

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Re: Cheating in College Basketball
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2010, 10:34:17 PM »
I'm guessing mostly Big Ten coaches were interviewed.  For them to say the Big Ten is the cleanest is hilarity personified.

The last 15 years they've had

Clem Haskins
Jim O'Brien
Kelvin Sampson
Lou Henson
Steve Alford
Tommy Amaker
Steve Fisher


Just to name a few of the coaches that have pushed or blasted through the envelope.  Stu Jackson is just outside of that 15 year window, but he's another

And now appropriately enough, Stu is in charge of discipline for the NBA.  Perfect.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

 

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