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tower912

Yes, he looks like a fundamentally sound pick up for Bo.   He should fit into his system quite well.   And kudos to Bo for finding players to play his system and winning with it.    And since this kid was not on our radar, it means next to nothing to us, other than the first week of December.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

mosarsour

Quote from: tower912 on July 20, 2010, 08:45:34 AM
Yes, he looks like a fundamentally sound pick up for Bo.   He should fit into his system quite well.   And kudos to Bo for finding players to play his system and winning with it.    And since this kid was not on our radar, it means next to nothing to us, other than the first week of December.

+1 

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: thebadge10 on July 19, 2010, 09:18:32 PM
Try a 6'8/ 6'9 point forward who has been compared to Gordan Heyward, Kyle Singler, Robbie Hummell, and Jon Leuer.  A kid who has been named MVP of at least three spring AAU tourneys, including the first of the NYtoLA tourneys in Mequon. This kid is blowing up right now. Very impressive player who hasn't been evaluated yet on a national level!

We're still laughing at your comments on the Badger board that Marquette cheats.  Care to provide some proof of that...thanks....8 NCAA probations for Wisconsin-Madison...ZERO for Marquette

NotAnAlum

No need to disparage the kid but as others have pointed out MU and Wisc are looking for completely different types of players because the styles are completely different.  That is a good thing.  It means that on in-state players it should be pretty clear which school is suited for you and there shouldn't be much overlap.  To me it means Vander made the right choice.  Wisc values height and catch and shoot while MU values speed and athletic ability.  The things that make Vander great are more valued at MU.  On the other hand this kid (while he may turn out to contribute a lot to Wisc) would not be as valued at MU.
I like our brand of basketball better because I'm an MU fan.  If I were a Wisc fan I'd probably like their brand better.  I'm just glad to be in a position where we don't covet their recruits because we feel ours are better for our system.

ChicosBailBonds

I should clarify that I posted this more in amusement that their team is just amazingly cookie cutter in appearance.  That said, the kid looks good. I know he's "only" 3 star recruit, but 4 or 5 Big Ten schools had offered, along with a Big 12 school, etc.  I think Bo will slot him in nicely to his system. 

He'll do well on the Wally Cleever Basketball Team.


Litehouse

and now we won't hear much from this kid again until he re-emerges from UW's bench in Dec. 2014 as a redshirt Jr. to finally make a contribution on the court.

bilsu

Quote from: tower912 on July 20, 2010, 08:45:34 AM
Yes, he looks like a fundamentally sound pick up for Bo.   He should fit into his system quite well.   And kudos to Bo for finding players to play his system and winning with it.    And since this kid was not on our radar, it means next to nothing to us, other than the first week of December.
I much rather have UW sign a player that is not on our radar. However, there are only three reasons he was not on our radar.
1. Buzz felt he did not fit our style.
2. Buzz never saw him play and therefore did not recruit him.
3. Buzz saw him play, liked him, but he had no interest in MU so there was no reason for Buzz to recruit him.

77ncaachamps

Quote from: bilsu on July 20, 2010, 01:25:17 PM
I much rather have UW sign a player that is not on our radar. However, there are only three reasons he was not on our radar.
1. Buzz felt he did not fit our style.
2. Buzz never saw him play and therefore did not recruit him.
3. Buzz saw him play, liked him, but he had no interest in MU so there was no reason for Buzz to recruit him.

+1
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whodem

Quote from: Ners on July 20, 2010, 08:38:33 AM
Actually some people who commented on his YouTube video said as much.  Kid looks like he can pass, but his "highlight" video didn't show me a whole lot else.  Will need a lot of work in the strength area to be a player at Wisconsin.

His AAU coach has been making those comparisons as well.

Skatastrophy

Quote from: whodem on July 20, 2010, 01:48:51 PM
His AAU coach has been making those comparisons as well.

This sounds to me like a, "but my mom says I'm cool," statement.  HS and AAU Coaches always blow smoke about their players.  Sometimes they're right (and maybe they are about this kid) but the always unreliable recruiting ranking services are more reliable than a kid's coaches.

Nothing against this kid.  I wish the best for him (except during December the next few years).

Bob "Big Daddy" Wild

Uthoff is as much Kyle Singler (Top 10 recruit) as Joe Fulce is Shawn Marion.

That being said, looks to be a solid to possibly very good recruit for them who wants to play for Bo.  Should work out nicely for both.
Former president.  Part-time MUScooper.

whodem

Quote from: Skatastrophy on July 20, 2010, 01:53:52 PM
This sounds to me like a, "but my mom says I'm cool," statement.  HS and AAU Coaches always blow smoke about their players.  Sometimes they're right (and maybe they are about this kid) but the always unreliable recruiting ranking services are more reliable than a kid's coaches.

Nothing against this kid.  I wish the best for him (except during December the next few years).

I agree with you regarding HS and AAU coaches. Uthoff hasn't been evaluated yet by a few of the recruiting services, so it'll be interesting to see where he ranks.

Jay Bee

His name only came up one time on this board prior to yesterday... in a Kevin Noreen thread...

April 27 I said, "Kyle is a lot smaller and not as talented as Kevin... fun games this weekend in the Twin Cities though.. his Minnesota Pump N Run team lost in double OT to the Iowa Barnstormers in a 17U championship game (Jarrod Uthoff!).  Kyle is a nice player, but not at the same level as Kevin."

I dislike Wisconsin, but this is a good guy for them.  Not a guy that I would get excited about if he was coming to Marquette, but he should fit and do well in Madison.  I've had a chance to see him a couple of times in person this spring and he can be a quality player for them.  

AAU teammates of Uthoff... Seth Tuttle committed to Northern Iowa several weeks ago... and 6'5" guard Josh Oglesby is uncommitted.. plenty of high major interest.
The portal is NOT closed.

NersEllenson

Quote from: bilsu on July 20, 2010, 01:25:17 PM
I much rather have UW sign a player that is not on our radar. However, there are only three reasons he was not on our radar.
1. Buzz felt he did not fit our style.
2. Buzz never saw him play and therefore did not recruit him.
3. Buzz saw him play, liked him, but he had no interest in MU so there was no reason for Buzz to recruit him.

4. Buzz saw him play and didn't think he was talented enough to play at MU.
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

martyconlonontherun

I don't understand the need to consistently bash Ryan's recruiting style. Since he has taken over the team 9 years ago they are 217-82, have 9 tourney appearances, 3 sweet sixteens, and an elite 8. Head to head we've just been about even. I know we just had two great recruiting periods, but I'm not going to start getting cocky til we make it out of the second round.

Why is this even a big topic on this board? A non-conference opponent signed a decent prospect.

Skatastrophy

Quote from: martyconlonontherun on July 20, 2010, 02:54:20 PM
Why is this even a big topic on this board? A non-conference opponent signed a decent prospect.

It's summer.  It makes sense that the forum rules get a little relaxed with so little MU BBall news going on.  Judging by the number of posts in this thread I'd say that we've got to talk about something.

MarkCharles

Uthoff was just evaluated by ESPN. He is rated as a 94, #19 PF, which ranks him as one of the first few left off their top100 list. He is probably the best recruit to sign for UW in the '09-'12 classes, for what its worth.

bilsu

Quote from: martyconlonontherun on July 20, 2010, 02:54:20 PM
I don't understand the need to consistently bash Ryan's recruiting style. Since he has taken over the team 9 years ago they are 217-82, have 9 tourney appearances, 3 sweet sixteens, and an elite 8. Head to head we've just been about even. I know we just had two great recruiting periods, but I'm not going to start getting cocky til we make it out of the second round.

Why is this even a big topic on this board? A non-conference opponent signed a decent prospect.
It is because they always bash us. Tit for tat. The fact is I do not hate UW or Ryan, but I have a problem with a lot of their fans. I am sure that anyone checking my post history will find that I generally do not rag on UW, but I understand why people here do.

brewcity77

Quote from: martyconlonontherun on July 20, 2010, 02:54:20 PMWhy is this even a big topic on this board? A non-conference opponent signed a decent prospect.

If nothing else, they're still a big rival. If Notre Dame or DePaul were non-conference, I could understand disparaging them too, if for no other reason than because rivals like to talk smack. As long as you can take it back, I can see dishing it out. Makes more sense to me than talking smack about a non-conference non-rival like Indiana ;)

rocky_warrior

Quote from: bilsu on July 20, 2010, 01:25:17 PM
I much rather have UW sign a player that is not on our radar. However, there are only three reasons he was not on our radar.
1. Buzz felt he did not fit our style.
2. Buzz never saw him play and therefore did not recruit him.
3. Buzz saw him play, liked him, but he had no interest in MU so there was no reason for Buzz to recruit him.

I can't imagine Bo and Buzz run into each other very often when they're out recruiting...if EVER.

augoman

he sounds like a great 'get', and I have no doubt he will contribute at UW-Madison..., would have been happy to have had him at MU based on his upside and size.  

brewcity77

Quote from: rocky_warrior on July 20, 2010, 06:54:58 PM
I can't imagine Bo and Buzz run into each other very often when they're out recruiting...if EVER.

Well...I'm sure they do in Menomonee Falls ;)

Dawson Rental

Quote from: thebadge10 on July 19, 2010, 09:18:32 PM
Try a 6'8/ 6'9 point forward who has been compared to Gordan Heyward, Kyle Singler, Robbie Hummell, and Jon Leuer.  A kid who has been named MVP of at least three spring AAU tourneys, including the first of the NYtoLA tourneys in Mequon. This kid is blowing up right now. Very impressive player who hasn't been evaluated yet on a national level!

The comparisons are in:
  Gordon Hayward gets picked ninth in NBA draft, Jarrod Uthoff gets picked ninth in open gym.
 
  Kyle Singler - Jarrod Uthoff cannot carry his jockstrap.

  Robbie Hummell - Jarrod Uthoff even lighter complected.

  Jon Leuer present Wisconsin student.   Jarrod Uthoff future Wisconsin student.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

brewcity77

Quote from: thebadge10 on July 19, 2010, 09:18:32 PM
Try a 6'8/ 6'9 point forward...

Is it just me, or is this term suddenly thrown around way too much? Ever since LeBron came into the NBA, every prospect that plays either the 3 or the 4 is a "point forward". Honestly, does anyone believe this kid, even if he is a top 150 type recruit, will be bringing the ball up the floor for Bucky, honing his distribution game just as much as he is his scoring and rebounding? True point forwards are rare in the NBA, acting as though every high major forward is a point forward is getting more than a bit silly.

NersEllenson

Quote from: MarkCharles on July 20, 2010, 05:44:26 PM
Uthoff was just evaluated by ESPN. He is rated as a 94, #19 PF, which ranks him as one of the first few left off their top100 list. He is probably the best recruit to sign for UW in the '09-'12 classes, for what its worth.

Wow  - That is a good ranking from ESPN..though I'm shocked given what recent footage I saw on the web of his highlights.  The kid looks like he has a LONG way to go to be a player...I'd be shocked if he contributed much of anything as a freshman or sophomore at UW.  That said he'll probably be a good system player at UW.
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

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