Endless Internet Argument - A Summertime Tradition

[ChicosBailBonds]

I'd take a free ride over paying $37,000 a year to go to MU, that's for sure.

I'd take a free ride at MU that I was promised over the free ride at USM that I had to settle for.

[mu-rara]

Maybe he should have done Prep school to bring up his stock?

[NCMUFan]

I was against it, but man, look at the Jamil Wilson video at the latest Pro-Am.   

[Benny B]

I'd take a free ride at MU that I was promised over the free ride at USM that I had to settle for.

Nothing in life is free.  MU didn't fulfill its end of the "promise" but DJ wasn't exactly on top of his obligations either.

Benny's Life Secret #14:  If you accept a scholarship, job, or some other type of offer, live up to your end of the deal.  And don't be the person that accepts an offer and then shops it around (not even Michael Scott would do that).  Otherwise, don't act surprised when you're called out.

[bilsu]

I'd take a free ride at MU that I was promised over the free ride at USM that I had to settle for.

Seeing the guards we have, he would have to be very good to see any playing time here. He may not like what happen, but he probably will see a lot more playing time at USM.

[NavinRJohnson]

Does anyone else get a strange feeling about Coach Laws?

I have been skeptical of his versions of things from the very moment he arrived.

[wadesworld]

I'd take a free ride at MU that I was promised over the free ride at USM that I had to settle for.

So would I, but to say he "is screwed" is simply wrong.  Did he get screwed by Marquette?  Maybe, but I think we all know that there are 2 sides to this story and we have only heard one side.  My guess is that the truth is somewhere between the side we heard and the side we imagine.  But my point is that he is going to a division 1 school and getting a free education.  I don't see how he "is screwed" when he is getting a free education from a Conference USA school.  He's not at some community college now getting an education that doesn't count for much.  He is certainly not screwed.  His life is not over because he had to "settle" for a free ride to a solid 4 year college.

[NersEllenson]

This may be a wrong thing to say but:  If Newbill was a high major talent, a high major program would have made room for him - much the way MU "made room" for Wilson.  The reality is that Newbill was likely at the bottom of getting offers from high major programs back in the winter time..with MU and WVU being the only 2 majors mentioned..so it follows that no high major team would make room for him now.

Like most, I hope things work out well for DJ and also hope Buzz doesn't get involved in another situation like this one regardless of what "understanding" there may have been between MU and the Newbill camp.

But as another mentioned..Jamil Wilson looks ridiculous in the videos posted..and could be a player that pushes MU toward a Final Four/National Championship..so probably worth it in the long run with regard to the program's well-being.

[GGGG]

This may be a wrong thing to say but:  If Newbill was a high major talent, a high major program would have made room for him - much the way MU "made room" for Wilson.  The reality is that Newbill was likely at the bottom of getting offers from high major programs back in the winter time..with MU and WVU being the only 2 majors mentioned..so it follows that no high major team would make room for him now.

Like most, I hope things work out well for DJ and also hope Buzz doesn't get involved in another situation like this one regardless of what "understanding" there may have been between MU and the Newbill camp.

But as another mentioned..Jamil Wilson looks ridiculous in the videos posted..and could be a player that pushes MU toward a Final Four/National Championship..so probably worth it in the long run with regard to the program's well-being.

You have pretty much summed up how I feel...

1.  No great loss
2.  Hope this situation doesn't occur again
3.  I'm really glad we have Jamil

[Lennys Tap]

You have pretty much summed up how I feel...

1.  No great loss
2.  Hope this situation doesn't occur again
3.  I'm really glad we have Jamil

I would venture to say that this sums up the feelings of all but a very few here.

[Lennys Tap]

Interesting comments in the article.

"He received roughly 20 offers when his recruitment reopened."

"Local schools that pursued, Drexel, LaSalle (wanted him to red-shirt), and Temple had inquired"....interesting.

Either way, best of luck to DJ.

Interesting that DJ had only a "conditional" offer from LaSalle - even with a scholarship  open they think he needs a year to play at their level (which is considerably below MU's level).

Best of luck to DJ. My guess is he's in a better place to showcase his game.

[tower912]

I am happy he received another D1 offer at this late date.   Too much of MU's version of the tale will forever remain unknown, so it is difficult to make a final analysis, but I sincerely hope this does not become the norm.   

[mu_hilltopper]

Wait, Jamil is going to get us to the Final Four?  I KNEW the ends justified the means!

[Mr. Nielsen]

Good for DJ, I said he was a big boy that he would land on his feet.

[GGGG]

Wait, Jamil is going to get us to the Final Four?  I KNEW the ends justified the means!

Now I didn't say that.

I simply said that I'm glad we have him.  I didn't like how we got him, and I don't think we should go through that again, but I am glad we have him.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Seeing the guards we have, he would have to be very good to see any playing time here. He may not like what happen, but he probably will see a lot more playing time at USM.

Do not disagree at all with that....my point was simply the two are not apples to apples.

[ChicosBailBonds]

So would I, but to say he "is screwed" is simply wrong.  Did he get screwed by Marquette?  Maybe, but I think we all know that there are 2 sides to this story and we have only heard one side.  My guess is that the truth is somewhere between the side we heard and the side we imagine.  But my point is that he is going to a division 1 school and getting a free education.  I don't see how he "is screwed" when he is getting a free education from a Conference USA school.  He's not at some community college now getting an education that doesn't count for much.  He is certainly not screwed.  His life is not over because he had to "settle" for a free ride to a solid 4 year college.

Let's call it, then, the feeling of being "screwed" if that helps people digest it. 

If your son or daughter was offered a scholarship, they accepted and signed a NLI for that offer and then later it was pulled and your child was forced to go to a lower level academic and athletic institution, would your child (and you) feel "screwed"? 

Answer honestly.

[NersEllenson]

Let's call it, then, the feeling of being "screwed" if that helps people digest it. 

If your son or daughter was offered a scholarship, they accepted and signed a NLI for that offer and then later it was pulled and your child was forced to go to a lower level academic and athletic institution, would your child (and you) feel "screwed"? 

Answer honestly.

Nope - I'd be grateful he could likely stay eligible.   

[Dawson Rental]

We on the board will always owe a debt to Newbill.  Just think how much of the discussion during this off season concerned him.  Boy, would we have been dragging without threads about him.

[Lennys Tap]

Let's call it, then, the feeling of being "screwed" if that helps people digest it. 

If your son or daughter was offered a scholarship, they accepted and signed a NLI for that offer and then later it was pulled and your child was forced to go to a lower level academic and athletic institution, would your child (and you) feel "screwed"? 

Answer honestly.

Honestly - If Marquette is lying (as you obviously think they are) about DJ and his family knowing about the conditions/possibilities then yes. If MU is telling the truth then no.

It's clear who you believe. I think Stan Laws arrival on this board (the timing especially) and the fact that DJ hadn't even filled out an application are only a couple of the reasons I'm suspicious of the Newbill camp. So I guess I disagree with you.

[wadesworld]

Honestly - If Marquette is lying (as you obviously think they are) about DJ and his family knowing about the conditions/possibilities then yes. If MU is telling the truth then no.

It's clear who you believe. I think Stan Laws arrival on this board (the timing especially) and the fact that DJ hadn't even filled out an application are only a couple of the reasons I'm suspicious of the Newbill camp. So I guess I disagree with you.

I completely agree with this and would answer in the same way.  Even if Marquette was lying and phillycoach was absolutely correct on the story (which as I said, it'd be hard to believe that the truth doesn't lie somewhere between what he says and what IWB said happened), then yes I would feel as though Marquette screwed my son over, but I still be very proud and extremely thrilled that my son would be getting a free education at a solid school.  It may be a downgrade, but it is still a good education, and it is free.

[77ncaachamps]

Speaking of phillycoach, he hasn't logged in since July 9, 2010.

And bradforster? Last active July 28, but no new posts since July 6.

No Newbill, no news. I guess.

Not even on his signing with Southern Miss. Tsk tsk.

USM messageboard referring to Newbill as a "reject" (kinda harsh, no? but perception is reality, I guess...): http://www.eaglepost.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20809

[MUUWUWM]

Nothing in life is free.  MU didn't fulfill its end of the "promise" but DJ wasn't exactly on top of his obligations either.

Benny's Life Secret #14:  If you accept a scholarship, job, or some other type of offer, live up to your end of the deal.  And don't be the person that accepts an offer and then shops it around (not even Michael Scott would do that).  Otherwise, don't act surprised when you're called out.

Benny....very interesting angle.

[VegasWarrior77]

I have been skeptical of his (Coach Law's) versions of things from the very moment he arrived.

My gut tells me there is more to the story than we know and Buzz can't comment for obvious reasons.  I think in time we will know more....

[77ncaachamps]

My gut tells me there is more to the story than we know and Buzz can't comment for obvious reasons.  I think in time we will know more....

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