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Quote from: Stone Cold on July 08, 2010, 08:30:32 PM
WTF...  If I'm Wade I don't like James taking over the face of the franchise from me. 

Dwyane did fine sharing the spotlight Shaq and Zo.  He'll be fine and hopefully gets another ring out of this.
The best thing about this is Beasley being shown the door.

nyg

Cleveland is now the new Nets. 

ErickJD08

Quote from: SacWarrior on July 08, 2010, 08:31:22 PM
Sorry Chicago fans. There goes your chance at a deep playoff run.

not really... if Bulls pick up a jump shooter, Bulls will beat Miami... Book it.  Dumbest basketball decision ever.
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cheebs09

Quote from: nyg on July 08, 2010, 08:37:31 PM
Cleveland is now the new Nets. 

AKA they will be like they were before LeBron James.

Blackhat

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Quote from: ErickJD08 on July 08, 2010, 08:40:24 PM
not really... if Bulls pick up a jump shooter, Bulls will beat Miami... Book it.  Dumbest basketball decision ever.

Bulls have no shot against a Lediva, Wade, Bosh triumvirate.    You could throw Mo and Curly out there with them when the playoffs start and as long as they're playing 40 + minutes it won't be close.  

Rollout-the-Barrel

Riley finally takes it to bulls. Although post Jordan.
"We have the blues on the run!"

ErickJD08

Quote from: Stone Cold on July 08, 2010, 08:42:59 PM
Bulls have no shot against a Lebron, Wade, Bosh triumvirate.    You could throw Mo and Curly out there with them when the playoffs start and as long as they're playing 40 + minutes it won't be close. 

Ask Kobe, Shaq, Karl Malone, and Payton
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Blackhat

Quote from: ErickJD08 on July 08, 2010, 08:44:24 PM
Ask Kobe, Shaq, Karl Malone, and Payton

ask them what?   This is a more powerful "three some" than has been seen in modern history(softball).  Better than an aging Garnett, Pierce, and Ray Allen.  

ErickJD08

Quote from: Stone Cold on July 08, 2010, 08:47:17 PM
ask them what?   This is a more powerful "three some" than has been seen in modern history(softball).  Better than an aging Garnett, Pierce, and Ray Allen.  

Well, Kobe is arguably the best player ever (Yes, better than Wade), and Shaq, at that time, was the most dominant player of our era.  And they filled the roster with solid role players.  Came up with nothing.  Mark my words.  They will come up empty for the next two years and that team will implode.  All this is talk.  You think 3 awesome players equals championship.  I think you need stars and great role players.  We can just agree to disagree.
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reinko

Kobe and Shaq came up with nothing JD?

I guess those three rings are just for pretend.

groove

Is there a bigger clown in sports broadcasting than Stuart Scott? How much NBA cock does he suck a night?

groove

Quote from: ErickJD08 on July 08, 2010, 08:51:59 PM
Well, Kobe is arguably the best player ever (Yes, better than Wade), and Shaq, at that time, was the most dominant player of our era.  And they filled the roster with solid role players.  Came up with nothing.  Mark my words.  They will come up empty for the next two years and that team will implode.  All this is talk.  You think 3 awesome players equals championship.  I think you need stars and great role players.  We can just agree to disagree.

They won 3 titles

nyg

Quote from: groove on July 08, 2010, 09:10:57 PM
Is there a bigger clown in sports broadcasting than Stuart Scott? How much NBA cock does he suck a night?

I agree and can't stand him.  He plays the street slang talk and is a joke to ESPN.  Why he isn't gone, just like they got rid of Stephen Smith, is unknown to me.  I am not alone in this, I really don't know of anyone that enjoys his act.  

ErickJD08

Quote from: groove on July 08, 2010, 09:14:05 PM
They won 3 titles

You probably can't name three people from that roster... and that is why you don't get it.
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HouWarrior

I cant recall 3 bigger titans since the Lakers joined West, Baylor, and Wilt Chamberlin-- but, goodrich, hairston, erickson, mel counts ...much depends on the "role" players, here, too, and
today, with the cap the role guys fill in will be harder
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

ErickJD08

Quote from: houwarrior on July 08, 2010, 09:24:03 PM
I cant recall 3 bigger titans since the Lakers joined West, Baylor, and Wilt Chamberlin-- but, goodrich, hairston, erickson, mel counts ...much depends on the "role" players, here, too, and
today, with the cap the role guys fill in will be harder

How many championships did they win???  One.  Have fun LBJ.
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Dish

Quote from: SacWarrior on July 08, 2010, 08:31:22 PM
Sorry Chicago fans. There goes your chance at a deep playoff run.

Huh?

Bulls team is way deeper than the Heat, although that's not hard because the Heat will have only 5 players on their roster as of tomorrow morning. They still have a ton of cap room and flexibility, far from done for the Bulls.

Heat aren't going 82-0, and they're not winning 70 games next season.

They'll be VERY good, but the East is very deep. Who on the Heat is guarding Dwight Howard? Who's guarding Derrick Rose? If Garnett is healthy next season, Boston is built better than the Heat (as currently constructed).

Still a ton left to go. Again, Heat at a minimum are going to have to sign 7 minimum salary players, they have ZERO way around it.

SacWarrior

Quote from: MUDish on July 08, 2010, 09:38:48 PM
Huh?

Bulls team is way deeper than the Heat, although that's not hard because the Heat will have only 5 players on their roster as of tomorrow morning. They still have a ton of cap room and flexibility, far from done for the Bulls.

Heat aren't going 82-0, and they're not winning 70 games next season.

They'll be VERY good, but the East is very deep. Who on the Heat is guarding Dwight Howard? Who's guarding Derrick Rose? If Garnett is healthy next season, Boston is built better than the Heat (as currently constructed).

Still a ton left to go. Again, Heat at a minimum are going to have to sign 7 minimum salary players, they have ZERO way around it.

The East is very deep? No, outside Miami and Orlando they're one of the worst conferences in the history of basketball. The bottom three teams in the West could have made the playoffs last year in the East, and on that same token the 4-8 seeds would have been in the bottom of the West.

And the Heat are going to have Haslem, Beasley, Chalmers, Varnado and Da'Sean as role players. Those aren't bad guys to put around the Three Miamigos. I'd much rather take that than any team in the league. I don't like seeing this Superteam in Miami, but from a  neutral (as in, my team had no shot at LeBronze)  point of view, the Heat are favorites to win championships for years to come (of course this all hinges on how much the refs decide to favor the Kobe show in a potential finals matchup)

Dish

Celtics have one more run in them, you have to include them in the conversation. Bulls have all kinds of flexibility still. I'm not saying Bulls are winning a title next season, but they're going to be a playoff team. If (big IF) they get Gilbert Arenas, that's a very interesting rotation.

Heat will be outstanding, no doubt. But they're work is far from over. Be interesting to see if they get rid of Beasley (they were desperate to do so for weeks now). It'll be fascinating to see how Miami plugs up the rest of that roster, and to see if Wade takes a pounding and gets worn down by the end of the year.

ErickJD08

Quote from: SacWarrior on July 08, 2010, 09:55:29 PM
The East is very deep? No, outside Miami and Orlando they're one of the worst conferences in the history of basketball. The bottom three teams in the West could have made the playoffs last year in the East, and on that same token the 4-8 seeds would have been in the bottom of the West.

And the Heat are going to have Haslem, Beasley, Chalmers, Varnado and Da'Sean as role players. Those aren't bad guys to put around the Three Miamigos. I'd much rather take that than any team in the league. I don't like seeing this Superteam in Miami, but from a  neutral (as in, my team had no shot at LeBronze)  point of view, the Heat are favorites to win championships for years to come (of course this all hinges on how much the refs decide to favor the Kobe show in a potential finals matchup)

Your forgetting about Boston.  You know the team that won a championship and took Lakes to game 7.  Again, expecting two rookies (one coming off a major injury) to contribute at all is tough.  Not saying impossible but look at most players drafted outside the top ten.  Most of them don't do anything.  That's why Wes was a big surprise, and BTW, he does more for MU at this time than Wade does.
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SacWarrior

Quote from: ErickJD08 on July 08, 2010, 10:10:00 PM
He does more for MU at this time than Wade does.

Don't get me wrong, I love Wes, and Wes is great because he really reps MU, whereas Wade, being a superstar, reps his team and his brand more, but Wes could never possibly do more for MU than Wade does without even trying.

Also this from (a presumably fake) Kobe Twitter account: @KingJames: (954) 838-9292 - There's the number for IKEA. I heard you were looking for a bench

Pakuni

Quote from: SacWarrior on July 08, 2010, 09:55:29 PM
The East is very deep? No, outside Miami and Orlando they're one of the worst conferences in the history of basketball. [/qupote]

Ummm ... what?
If not for a poorly timed injury for Kedrick Perkins and an off night for Ray Allen, the Celtics are defending NBA champions with all their key players returning.
Atlanta brings back everyone from a 53-win team with a lot of young talent that still can get better (Horford and Josh Smith, in particular).
Fact is, the West has gotten weaker this offseason while the East has gotten stronger.


QuoteAnd the Heat are going to have Haslem, Beasley, Chalmers, Varnado and Da'Sean as role players. Those aren't bad guys to put around the Three Miamigos. I'd much rather take that than any team in the league. I don't like seeing this Superteam in Miami, but from a  neutral (as in, my team had no shot at LeBronze)  point of view, the Heat are favorites to win championships for years to come (of course this all hinges on how much the refs decide to favor the Kobe show in a potential finals matchup)

Beasley is going to be moved and Varnado and Butler are borderline NBA talent. On a team with real depth, they'd be the 9th or 10th players. On the heat, they'll be asked to play double-digit minutes. Heat certainly will be a major contender, but anyone thinking they're a lock at this point is out of their gourd.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: ErickJD08 on July 08, 2010, 08:51:59 PM
Well, Kobe is arguably the best player ever (Yes, better than Wade), and Shaq, at that time, was the most dominant player of our era.  And they filled the roster with solid role players.  Came up with nothing.  Mark my words.  They will come up empty for the next two years and that team will implode.  All this is talk.  You think 3 awesome players equals championship.  I think you need stars and great role players.  We can just agree to disagree.

Kobe isn't even the greatest Laker ever, let alone best player ever.   

ChicosBailBonds


Pakuni

Quote from: Stone Cold on July 08, 2010, 08:47:17 PM
ask them what?   This is a more powerful "three some" than has been seen in modern history(softball).  Better than an aging Garnett, Pierce, and Ray Allen.  

Winning basketball requires more than three players, but that said ...

Jordan+Pippen+Rodman > James+Wade+Bosh (and the Bulls had far superior talent around the big three than Miami will)

The thing people need to remember is that James', Wade's and Bish's offensive numbers are a bit inflated by the fact that they were, by far, their respective team's #1 offensive options. Last year they were 5th, 6th and 13th in field goals attempted last year and 2nd, 4th and 6th in free throws attempted. Which means they all - somehwta by necessity - were ball hogs last year. We're all somewhat judging how food they are by their offensive numbers, but those numbers are a bit skewed by the fact of how much their team's offense, with reason, ran through them.

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