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Re: TX Apparently Leaning Pac-10
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2010, 05:39:52 PM »
Since California and Texas consistently produce the most Parade AAs, it's only logical that Texas be in the Pac-10. Consolidating the talent in one single conference will help to create a very dominant league.
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Re: TX Apparently Leaning Pac-10
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2010, 05:44:16 PM »
Chicos - any insights on how high a Big East renewal contract might go if we remain in tact, and how this money is split between basketball-only and football schools?

So based on ESPN this afternoon, the Big 12 really wasn't anywhere near the SEC and Big Ten until the new proposed Big 12 contract that could take the average team from $8 million per year to SEC-Big Ten territory.  I see one other old article that the ACC was negotiating to jump to $155 million recently.

Big Ten $242 million - $20 million per team
SEC $205 million - $17 million
Big 12 $78 million - $8 million would jump to $14 to $17m, more for Big 3
ACC $67 million - $5.5 million (did they sign deal to go up to $155 million in recent renewal?)
Pacific-10 $58 million - $5 million
Big East $33 million - $4 million (based on 8 football schools, $2 million if split evenly among all 16 schools)

Looking at these contracts, it is still amazing that TV would drive the Big 12 to join the Pac 10.

Under the Pac10 proposal, Texas no longer would play in a Conference title game, would have to share revenue equally with 15 other teams, and woudl shared the spotlight with USC once they got off probation.

If the Big Ten is sincere in wanting to wait another year to expand, and the Big 12 holds together to keep Texas A&M, then maybe the dominoes stop for a year plus and we can get back to talking about DJO.
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Re: TX Apparently Leaning Pac-10
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2010, 07:05:20 PM »
Chicos - any insights on how high a Big East renewal contract might go if we remain in tact, and how this money is split between basketball-only and football schools?

So based on ESPN this afternoon, the Big 12 really wasn't anywhere near the SEC and Big Ten until the new proposed Big 12 contract that could take the average team from $8 million per year to SEC-Big Ten territory.  I see one other old article that the ACC was negotiating to jump to $155 million recently.

Big Ten $242 million - $20 million per team
SEC $205 million - $17 million
Big 12 $78 million - $8 million would jump to $14 to $17m, more for Big 3
ACC $67 million - $5.5 million (did they sign deal to go up to $155 million in recent renewal?)
Pacific-10 $58 million - $5 million
Big East $33 million - $4 million (based on 8 football schools, $2 million if split evenly among all 16 schools)

Looking at these contracts, it is still amazing that TV would drive the Big 12 to join the Pac 10.

Under the Pac10 proposal, Texas no longer would play in a Conference title game, would have to share revenue equally with 15 other teams, and woudl shared the spotlight with USC once they got off probation.

If the Big Ten is sincere in wanting to wait another year to expand, and the Big 12 holds together to keep Texas A&M, then maybe the dominoes stop for a year plus and we can get back to talking about DJO.


Well, with the news this afternoon that the Big 12 is now the Big Ten and staying together....for now.....who knows what's next.  I just got out of a meeting and we started joking about the insanity of it all.  Keep in mind that Pac Ten amount you see below doesn't include their Fox deal or the Versus deal.  What the Pac Ten was hoping to do was to leverage adding a bunch of new teams so they add leverage for their contract renewal next year.  By adding Denver (CU) and likely Salt Lake City (Utah, if they join), they'll still be able to do that, but not nearly at the level they had hoped.

For the Big East, no changes on television for right now and that will remain a big sticking point for the schools.  With all these conferences getting mega deals, the Big East football schools are asking WHERE'S THE MONEY.  But with ESPN having the Big East locked up until 2013, they won't be in any hurry to redo a deal....UNLESS.....Unless the Big East schools are making noise of breaking up and going to other conferences.  Problem there is that the conferences they would go to are all controlled by ESPN anyway.

What made ESPN so jittery about the Big 12 breakup is that they had almost $500 million invested into the Big 12 contract and they were very likely to lose all those teams to the Pac Ten and probably Fox Sports.  In the Big East situation, the likely only destination for the Big East football schools are other ESPN controlled conferences.  So, to answer your question, the situation remains less than ideal for the Big East.  Very poor football contract, other conferences getting richer....not a good combination.