So Who Wants The DePaul Job?

[Tom Crean's Tanning Bed]

Reggie Theus interviewed on Thursday, but nothing since.

Isiah Thomas floated his name in the Chicago Tribune, but no call made.

Word on the street in Indy is Scott Drew and Brad Stevens have no interest.

Brian Gregory said no to Boston College today, and indicated he is staying at Dayton.

Are they gonna be stuck bringing Tracy Webster back at this point?

[SaintPaulWarrior]

Promote Doug Bruno from their women's team.

[GGGG]

Interestingly, the move to 96 tournament teams is being cited as a reason why coaches like Gregory won't make the jump to the ACC.  He can win at Dayton, get into the tournament, and not have to face a brutal conference schedule.

Words cannot describe how poorly DePaul has f*cked this up.  I mean, they have known since January that they needed a coach, but still haven't found one.

[SERocks]

I really think at this point they need to find an assistant coach that they believe in and take a shot.  Maybe that assistant turns into the next Tom Crean and puts DePaul back on the map.  Be the best thing they could do.  Worked for us.

[GGGG]

I really think at this point they need to find an assistant coach that they believe in and take a shot.  Maybe that assistant turns into the next Tom Crean and puts DePaul back on the map.  Be the best thing they could do.  Worked for us.

Agreed.  I would look at Dwayne Stephens - a guy who can clearly recruit and has done very well as an Izzo assistant.

[Canadian Dimes]

Marquette won 20 games for 6 straight seasons including 4 NCAAs before one bad year the year Crean was brought in.  Let's not compare that to Depaul, and despite everyhting Crean says to build up his reputation MU was no where near the wasteland he would have you or potential suitors think it was.

My student season tickets as Freshman under Dukiet were in the upper deck.  yet Crean will have everyone beleive the student draw at games was similar to Depaul's.  Careful who you listen to when you are looking for an Mu BBAll history lesson.  

[RJax55]

Interestingly, the move to 96 tournament teams is being cited as a reason why coaches like Gregory won't make the jump to the ACC.  He can win at Dayton, get into the tournament, and not have to face a brutal conference schedule.

Words cannot describe how poorly DePaul has f*cked this up.  I mean, they have known since January that they needed a coach, but still haven't found one.

Smart thinking by Gregory. Rumor going around that DePaul is now interested in Oliver Purnell, the Clemson coach.

A potentially interesting hire for DePaul ... Has had success (both at Dayton & Clemson), gets his teams to the tournament, but never wins. I wonder if his lack of post-season success is causing him to feel some heat down in South Carolina. He's also 56. I think DePaul is desperately in need of a high energy young coach.

[Hards Alumni]

I suggest keeping Tracy Webster.

[damuts222]

Marquette won 20 games for 6 straight seasons including 4 NCAAs before one bad year the year Crean was brought in.  Let's not compare that to Depaul, and despite everyhting Crean says to build up his reputation MU was no where near the wasteland he would have you or potential suitors think it was.

My student season tickets as Freshman under Dukiet were in the upper deck.  yet Crean will have everyone beleive the student draw at games was similar to Depaul's.  Careful who you listen to when you are looking for an Mu BBAll history lesson.   

Crean did not and has not stated that Marquette was a wasteland, it was a decent program at the time and he elevated it. Looking through that is selective, people that hate Crean see through what he did for the program.

[GGGG]

I suggest keeping Tracy Webster.

Well, if you're going to hire an assistant, you may as well hire an effective one.  There are much better assistants out there than Webster.

[Tom Crean's Tanning Bed]

Hate throwing this name out there since someone may feed this name to JLP (and he's near the top of my list if Buzz were to leave in the near future), but what about John Groce from Ohio?  He can certainly coach as evidenced by the beating Ohio laid on Georgetown in the NCAA Tournament, and playing from the 8 seed in the MAC tourney into the NCAAs.  He's a proven recruiter during his time as an assistant at Ohio State, as he spearheaded the Oden/Conley/Daequan Cook/Othello Hunter/David Lighty class back in 2005.

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

Crean did not and has not stated that Marquette was a wasteland, it was a decent program at the time and he elevated it. Looking through that is selective, people that hate Crean see through what he did for the program.

Completely disagree. He's stated that at some donut session (which was later revealed to have been held on a weekend or the summer or something) there were like 9 students to greet him as the new HC. He used this as a barometer of the level of support. IIRC, the number of fans per game has also been stated, by him, to have been around 12k before his arrival. I also recall him telling someone (that idiot on WTMJ?) that before he got there, the team had trouble getting practice shoes. Whatever his contributions to the program (and I do think they were significant), the guy is a borderline pathological liar.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Marquette won 20 games for 6 straight seasons including 4 NCAAs before one bad year the year Crean was brought in.  Let's not compare that to Depaul, and despite everyhting Crean says to build up his reputation MU was no where near the wasteland he would have you or potential suitors think it was.

My student season tickets as Freshman under Dukiet were in the upper deck.  yet Crean will have everyone beleive the student draw at games was similar to Depaul's.  Careful who you listen to when you are looking for an Mu BBAll history lesson.  

1). This makes so much sense now.  Admission standards were pretty low during the Dukiet era so that explains how you squeaked through.

2).  Dukiet coached 2 of his 3 years at the MECCA so having seats in the upper deck doesn't mean squat.  His third year was the inaugural year of the Bradley Center where attendance was high anyway due to the novelty

3).  Now here is the reality of 1997 and 1998, the two years prior to Crean taking over (which have no relationship to your years 10 years earlier which is why it's so bizarre you even brought them up).

Attendance for students was God awful.  There's a reason why I pushed so hard with the university, Cords, the students, etc to go to a General Admission policy.  It took us a long time, with hearings at ASMU, the President of the university, also Father Leahy, the Bradley Center GM, etc, etc, to get that done.  There was a lot of resistence for awhile.  The Lens ( on ths board ) and others were essential to making this happen as well.

It was my belief that if we went to a General Admission student policy the students would actually show up, be energized, and help the team win.  Ultimately we won over the necessay people and it became policy in 1999.  

Simply put Mr. Hayward, student attendance and student ticket purchases were terrible at the middle of the Deane regime until we made that critical change and created the Fanatic Club to bolster sales.

You're entitled to your own opinions but not to your own set of facts.

[damuts222]

Completely disagree. He's stated that at some donut session (which was later revealed to have been held on a weekend or the summer or something) there were like 9 students to greet him as the new HC. He used this as a barometer of the level of support. IIRC, the number of fans per game has also been stated, by him, to have been around 12k before his arrival. I also recall him telling someone (that idiot on WTMJ?) that before he got there, the team had trouble getting practice shoes. Whatever his contributions to the program (and I do think they were significant), the guy is a borderline pathological liar.

If you have evidence of such an article reporting on any of these claims I can read into it further, and I could be wrong. I don't know how he is a pathological liar, but dozens of coaches lie about not leaving their current job and days later do exactly that.

Sorry this is hijacking the thread, but coming to conclusions based on evidence that I don't recall doesn't cut it, and I just don't like the bashing of players, coaches, etc. just because...with no evidence to support a statement.

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

Feel free to read Scoop from the weeks following his departure if you're indeed a new fan of Marquette basketball or new to this forum.

[DawsonCreekFillanderer]

Marquette won 20 games for 6 straight seasons including 4 NCAAs before one bad year the year Crean was brought in.  Let's not compare that to Depaul, and despite everyhting Crean says to build up his reputation MU was no where near the wasteland he would have you or potential suitors think it was.  My student season tickets as Freshman under Dukiet were in the upper deck.  yet Crean will have everyone beleive the student draw at games was similar to Depaul's.  Careful who you listen to when you are looking for an Mu BBAll history lesson.  

Are you suggesting Tom Crean was less than honest? Such an allegation is an outrage. Tom Crean is a man of his word! A man of his word I tell you!

[damuts222]

 

Feel free to read Scoop from the weeks following his departure if you're indeed a new fan of Marquette basketball or new to this forum.

So your factual evidence is this forum where people post their opinions...

[ChicosBailBonds]

As much as I appreciate what Crean did for us, I'd like to know what student function he was talking about where 9 people showed up.  I put most of those together and in several cases we had close to 100 or so.  Now, that being said, coming from Michigan State he probably thought that was pathetically small.  He was named coach I think April 2nd but spent most of the first month out recruiting.  We organized a few on campus appearances for him in May when he returned, but most students were studying for finals and already skeptical of a basketball program clearly on the downswing (despite whatever fantasy musings Mr. Hayward \ Canadiandimes has).

So it was tough to get students to show up, but 9 people is an exaggeration unless it was a function that I wasn't at...which is entirely possible as well.

[MU_Warrior44]

The first "Coffee, Crean and donuts" was held in fall of 1999. I was one of the students there and there were probably 10-15 of us, plus the coaches and the players.

[ChicosBailBonds]

The first "Coffee, Crean and donuts" was held in fall of 1999. I was one of the students there and there were probably 10-15 of us, plus the coaches and the players.

The first one I set up and we had to move it to a larger room in the union due to the size.  We had to move it to room 215 ( my memory is fuzzy on the meeting room number as this was a decade ago ) but we gave out stress balls in the form of basketballs for the students to use for finals.  There may have been subsequent meetings but that first one was at capacity of that meeting room... I'd say over 100 people

[bilsu]

They should look at recently fired coaches from St. John's and Iowa. They are not going to do better than that.

[ATWizJr]

Best available coach might be Jim Baron.  An east coast guy with NY roots, underappreciated at Rhody.

[caltruda]

While I know DePaul wants a big name with NCAA tourney experience, it may be worth the effort to at least contact Chris Collins win or lose tonight. I'm sure Krzyzewski will offer him advice similar to what he did with Quin Snyder (one of the reasons he held out until Mizzou became available for his first job), and he would likely turn it down unless a lot of criterion are met by JLP and the school's administration, but at this point is there really much difference between him and Chris Lowery if you've dragged your feet this long in the hiring process?

I also agree with the point that the expansion to 96 teams is going to make coaching searches far more difficult. I think it's going to be an assistant before a coach, and I would be really surprised if it's a "big name" coach.

[Dawson Rental]

Interestingly, the move to 96 tournament teams is being cited as a reason why coaches like Gregory won't make the jump to the ACC.  He can win at Dayton, get into the tournament, and not have to face a brutal conference schedule.

Words cannot describe how poorly DePaul has f*cked this up.  I mean, they have known since January that they needed a coach, but still haven't found one.

It's DePaul!  It's DePaul!

Not said with excitement, but slowly, in a monotone with eyes cast downward.

[Canadian Dimes]

Completely disagree. He's stated that at some donut session (which was later revealed to have been held on a weekend or the summer or something) there were like 9 students to greet him as the new HC. He used this as a barometer of the level of support. IIRC, the number of fans per game has also been stated, by him, to have been around 12k before his arrival. I also recall him telling someone (that idiot on WTMJ?) that before he got there, the team had trouble getting practice shoes. Whatever his contributions to the program (and I do think they were significant), the guy is a borderline pathological liar.

thank you

Crean has had so much hyperbole to what he built it is a joke.  he would have potential employers beleive MU ar Depuals current level.  Sorry but Mu was a 4 seed and conference runnerup behind top 10 cincinnati playing in front of crowds of 18000+ and top 25 nationally in attendence three years before Crean and won a Conference title the next year.  Mike Deane won 100 games and Mu was perenially in the top 25 in attendence during his 5 yeras.  I will admit he was letting program slip and was agreeable to his firing. 
But Creans revisionist history would have us compared to dePual circa 2010.  Unfortunately those that have started to follow Mu during the last 10 years ate that crap up.  It's called building job security to leverage one's contract.  "You see MU was never anything before I got here" or with other potential bidders " if I could build a program when 9 kids show up to a rally and so on and so on and could make your program the next UCla circa the '60's"