Crean loses another recruit

[KipsBayEagle]

Matt Carlino, a shooting guard out of Bloomington ranked number 61 in the espn 100 class for 2011 decommitted from Indiana and is reopening his recruitment.  I am not starting this thread to bash Crean, but what is going on over there?  Crean can't get anyone to commit, and IU looks like it is no better off than when the whole Sampson thing started.  Crean can't have much time left there if this keeps up.

[MU B2002]

They have to be at least somewhat better off, as when Sampson left there was only one direction to go.

[nyg]

On same day, they lost to Georgetown in the recruitment of Moses Abraham, a 6ft 9in center, right after Abraham visited the IU campus.  

[KipsBayEagle]

They have to be at least somewhat better off, as when Sampson left there was only one direction to go.

At least they were winning with Sampson, granted the wins were vacated.  On a side note, vacated wins are the dumbest concept in sports.  Lets all pretend Umass didn't make the final four, and memphis didn't get to the national championship game.  news flash ncaa, they happened!

[MU B2002]

If Memphis fouls before the 3, and wins like I bet they would in October, would vegas be calling me to ask for their money back?

[GGGG]

Wasn't he the guy that moved from Arizona to Indiana after he verballed to IU?  

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Hmmm...

This certainly doesn't sound too good.

It's going to get more and more interesting at IU.

They will have to show some significant progress over the next 2 seasons.

If not, that experiment will be determined a failure and IU will move on.

[cheebs09]

I think Creek will be a very good player, but he was hurt for most of the year which made things tough. However, after that I'm not real impressed with their team and don't think he has gotten anyone of the talent level he couldn't get at MU. I know some of those kids were being recruited to MU and might not have committed to Crean if he stayed here, but Buzz has shown that you can get guys of at least that talent here.

He needs to make a big splash in the loaded 2011 and 2012 classes in Indiana. They say they will give him a lot of time, but if he doesn't land some of the big guns those years his seat will get very warm.

[nyg]

Wasn't he the guy that moved from Arizona to Indiana after he verballed to IU?  

Yes

[KipsBayEagle]

If Memphis fouls before the 3, and wins like I bet they would in October, would vegas be calling me to ask for their money back?

Is anyone else still puzzled by this question?  If you bet on any of those games leading up to the national championship game against against memphis, you think you could be entitled to your money back at least?

[texaswarrior74]

On same day, they lost to Georgetown in the recruitment of Moses Abraham, a 6ft 9in center, right after Abraham visited the IU campus.

Since we obviously need bigs, were we trying to get him as well?

[teddycoke]

"Tom Crean is like the guy who all the hot girls want to be friends with, but never a boyfriend"

[MU B2002]

Is anyone else still puzzled by this question?  If you bet on any of those games leading up to the national championship game against against memphis, you think you could be entitled to your money back at least?

Puzzled by my question, or the thought in general?

[KipsBayEagle]

Puzzled by my question, or the thought in general?

Puzzled like, does someone have a legal case to recliam money if they bet on a game where the victory was vacated.

[Canadian Dimes]

Funny thing is Crean was they same way here as he is now at Bloomington.  Bad coach, terrible , recruiter, high turnover.  When he was here people liked him becuase he was one of us.  Now that he is in Bloomington people see him more objectively.  The guy is a no talent.  Reminds me of Robert Johnson making a deal with the devil, Crean sold his soul and the devil gave him Dwyane Wade.   

[KipsBayEagle]

Funny thing is Crean was they same way here as he is now at Bloomington.  Bad coach, terrible , recruiter, high turnover.  When he was here people liked him becuase he was one of us.  Now that he is in Bloomington people see him more objectively.  The guy is a no talent.  Reminds me of Robert Johnson making a deal with the devil, Crean sold his soul and the devil gave him Dwyane Wade.   

This post is so incredibly incorrect its almost funny.

[pillardean]

I just do not think Indiana has that big of a pull anymore and Crean can not convince the kids it does.

[GOMU1104]

We were briefly mentioned with Moses Abraham a couple of months ago.

He visited Tennessee along with IU and GU.

In the end, he was Georgetowns to lose from the start.

[GGGG]

Funny thing is Crean was they same way here as he is now at Bloomington.  Bad coach, terrible , recruiter, high turnover.  When he was here people liked him becuase he was one of us.  Now that he is in Bloomington people see him more objectively.  The guy is a no talent.  Reminds me of Robert Johnson making a deal with the devil, Crean sold his soul and the devil gave him Dwyane Wade.   

This may be the most ignorant thing I have ever read on MU Scoop.

[reinko]

Funny thing is Crean was they same way here as he is now at Bloomington.  Bad coach, terrible , recruiter, high turnover.  When he was here people liked him becuase he was one of us.  Now that he is in Bloomington people see him more objectively.  The guy is a no talent.  Reminds me of Robert Johnson making a deal with the devil, Crean sold his soul and the devil gave him Dwyane Wade.   

Robert Jackson, Novak, Diener, DJ, 'Rel, Matthews, Lazar.......

[ChicosBailBonds]

Funny thing is Crean was they same way here as he is now at Bloomington.  Bad coach, terrible , recruiter, high turnover.  When he was here people liked him becuase he was one of us.  Now that he is in Bloomington people see him more objectively.  The guy is a no talent.  Reminds me of Robert Johnson making a deal with the devil, Crean sold his soul and the devil gave him Dwyane Wade.   

So good to see Mr. Hayward back....again.    

[AZWarrior]

At least they were winning with Sampson, granted the wins were vacated.  On a side note, vacated wins are the dumbest concept in sports.  Lets all pretend Umass didn't make the final four, and memphis didn't get to the national championship game.  news flash ncaa, they happened!

Nonsense.  We've always been at war with Eurasia.

[NersEllenson]

It's getting to the point I'm almost feeling sorry for Crean.  You have to wonder if he wakes up daily and wonders why he left what he built at Marquette - and the only answer he can come to is:  Well, I couldn't reel in the big fish at MU (Iman Schumpert), so I guess even with the Indiana Brand to sell, I still have trouble closing the deal.  Also wonder if he is jealous of the success Buzz has had both this season in basketball results, and his 2010 recruiting class?

That said he deserves credit for bringing us Buzz, and helping to get us out of the abyss Mike Deane was leading us into.

[MerrittsMustache]

I just do not think Indiana has that big of a pull anymore and Crean can not convince the kids it does.

+1

IU has a great basketball tradition...but many of the current recruits don't know about it. They're becoming like ND in football: they have yet to come to terms with the fact that 5-star recruits won't come to the school simply because of their name. They simply aren't as relevant as they used to be or as they believe themselves to be.

In fact, when a top recruit is asked for the main reason why he didn't chose IU, he might shrug and respond, "It's Indiana." 

[RawdogDX]

I think many of us overestimated what weight the name of a program, that has been largely unsuccessful since bob knight, would carry with 16 year olds.  Crean and myself included.  He may have only one more year to show significant improvement before he gets canned.