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Top HS basketball players of All-Time
« on: March 26, 2010, 09:58:54 AM »
Indiana just named it's all Century high school team. Curious on how this stacks up to other states. Who would be on your home state all time team: (WIS, Ill, or wherever)

Here is Indiana's, courtesy of indystar.com

26 players include a set of twins as a single entry.

The team, listed in alphabetical order, by name, school and year graduated, with details from the Indiana Basketball Hall of Fame and Indiana High School Athletic Association:

Steve Alford, New Castle, 1983: Mr. Basketball in 1983, when he averaged 37.2 points per game; scored 2,116 career points; scored 57 points in a semi-state game as senior.

Damon Bailey, Bedford North Lawrence, 1990: Is state's all-time leader with 3,134 points.

Kent Benson, New Castle, 1973: 1,496 points and 1,585 career rebounds, led Trojans to final four in 1971.

Larry Bird, Springs Valley, 1974: Averaged 30.6 points and 20.6 rebounds as a senior; Scored 55 points against Corydon on Jan. 19, 1974.

Hallie Bryant, Indianapolis Crispus Attucks, 1953: Helped Attucks reach final four in 1951; was Mr. Basketball in 1953.

Mike Conley, Lawrence North, 2006: Was second to teammate Greg Oden in Mr. Basketball voting, and Oden said at the time the honor should have been shared. Was the point guard who orchestrated one of the most dominant runs in state history.

Bill Garrett, Shelbyville, 1947: Mr. Basketball; one of the first prominent black players in the state; former Harlem Globetrotter.

Terry Dischinger, Terre Haute Garfield, 1958: All-around player was MVP of Indiana All-Star team.

Eric Gordon, Indianapolis North Central, 2007: Averaged 29 points, shot 57.9 percent from the field and 46.2 percent from 3-point range as a senior to earn Mr. Basketball honors. Twice scored 50 points in a game as a senior. Scored 2,178 points in his career, 15th in state history.

Krunti Hester. (OK I made that one up)

Billy Keller, Indianapolis Washington, 1965: Mr. Basketball and led team to state title in 1965. Starred at Purdue.

Clyde Lovellette, Terre Haute Garfield, 1948: Led team to state runner-up finish in 1947, scored 25 points in the final. Was mentioned by nearly every person interviewed despite playing before many of them were born.

George McGinnis, Indianapolis Washington, 1969: Led team to unbeaten championship season in 1969; 53 points, 31 rebounds in All-star game vs. Kentucky; Was first player in state to score more than 1,000 points in a season, averaged 32.8 points as a senior. Scored 2,070 career points.

Rick Mount, Lebanon, 1966: Fifth in state history with 2,595 points; Averaged 33.1 points as a senior; scored 57 points in a game as a junior, scored 47 in semi-state semifinal against Logansport on March 12, 1966.

Greg Oden, Lawrence North, 2006: Won three straight class 4A state championships and had a 103-7 overall record; won back-to-back Gatorade Player of the Year awards, a feat duplicated only by LeBron James. Finished his high school career with 1,873 points, 1,058 rebounds and 341 blocked shots.

Bobby Plump, Milan, 1954: Made last-second shot in 1954 state final to lead tiny school to victory. Was Mr. Basketball. His team inspired the 1986 movie “Hoosiers.” Was unanimously chosen by panelists.

Zach Randolph, Marion, 2000: Earned USA Today and Parade First-Team All-American honors as a senior; named MVP of the 2000 McDonald's All-American game; led Marion to the 2000 Class 4A State Championship.

Jimmy Rayl, Kokomo, 1959: Led team to state final; scored 114 points in final four games of tourney; 1,632 career points. Averaged 29.3 points his senior year.

Oscar Robertson, Indianapolis Crispus Attucks, 1956: Won state in 1955 and '56; the latter was the first to win state with an unbeaten record and first all-black team to win a state title in the nation; Mr. Basketball, 1956; scored 62 points against Sacred Heart on Feb. 11, 1956; scored 1,825 career points.

Glenn Robinson, Gary Roosevelt, 1991: Won 1991 state title against Indianapolis Brebeuf and star Alan Henderson; was Mr. Basketball.

Scott Skiles, Plymouth, 1982: Scored 1,788 career points; scored 39 points in state title win in 1982; Averaged 29.3 points per game as a senior.

Homer Stonebraker, Wingate, 1914: Led team to state titles in 1913 and 1914; Scored all of his team's points in one state tournament win in 1914; scored 18 points in 1914 state final; once scored 74 points in a game.

Deshaun Thomas, Ft. Wayne Luers, 2010: Third in state history with 3,018 points; won Class 2A state titles in 2008 and 2009; had 34 points and 15 rebounds in 2009 title win over Brownstown Central; will attend Ohio State.

Tom and Dick Van Arsdale, Indianapolis Manual, 1961: Twins shared Mr. Basketball and Trester Awards in 1961. Dick scored 26 points in 1961 state final.

John Wooden, Martinsville, 1928: Best known as UCLA's coach during its heyday, Wooden first made a name as an Indiana high school player. Played on Martinsville's 1927 state championship team his junior year, and was on runner-up teams in 1926 and 1928.

Robert “Fuzzy” Vandivier, Franklin, 1922: Led team to state titles in 1920, 1921 and 1922; team had winning streaks of 29 and 48 games.

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Re: Top HS basketball players of All-Time
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2010, 10:02:38 AM »
I would figure that Wisconsin's would include:

Joe Wolf
Sam Okey
Anthony Pieper
Brian Butch
Tony Bennett



needless to say Wisconsin's isn't near Indiana's list.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/NCAA/dayone&sportCat=ncb

pure genius stuff by Bill Simmons, remember to read day 2

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Re: Top HS basketball players of All-Time
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2010, 10:12:47 AM »
Indiana just named it's all Century high school team. Curious on how this stacks up to other states. Who would be on your home state all time team: (WIS, Ill, or wherever)

Here is Indiana's, courtesy of indystar.com

26 players include a set of twins as a single entry.

The team, listed in alphabetical order, by name, school and year graduated, with details from the Indiana Basketball Hall of Fame and Indiana High School Athletic Association:

Steve Alford, New Castle, 1983: Mr. Basketball in 1983, when he averaged 37.2 points per game; scored 2,116 career points; scored 57 points in a semi-state game as senior.

Damon Bailey, Bedford North Lawrence, 1990: Is state's all-time leader with 3,134 points.

Kent Benson, New Castle, 1973: 1,496 points and 1,585 career rebounds, led Trojans to final four in 1971.

Larry Bird, Springs Valley, 1974: Averaged 30.6 points and 20.6 rebounds as a senior; Scored 55 points against Corydon on Jan. 19, 1974.

Hallie Bryant, Indianapolis Crispus Attucks, 1953: Helped Attucks reach final four in 1951; was Mr. Basketball in 1953.

Mike Conley, Lawrence North, 2006: Was second to teammate Greg Oden in Mr. Basketball voting, and Oden said at the time the honor should have been shared. Was the point guard who orchestrated one of the most dominant runs in state history.

Bill Garrett, Shelbyville, 1947: Mr. Basketball; one of the first prominent black players in the state; former Harlem Globetrotter.

Terry Dischinger, Terre Haute Garfield, 1958: All-around player was MVP of Indiana All-Star team.

Eric Gordon, Indianapolis North Central, 2007: Averaged 29 points, shot 57.9 percent from the field and 46.2 percent from 3-point range as a senior to earn Mr. Basketball honors. Twice scored 50 points in a game as a senior. Scored 2,178 points in his career, 15th in state history.

Krunti Hester. (OK I made that one up)

Billy Keller, Indianapolis Washington, 1965: Mr. Basketball and led team to state title in 1965. Starred at Purdue.

Clyde Lovellette, Terre Haute Garfield, 1948: Led team to state runner-up finish in 1947, scored 25 points in the final. Was mentioned by nearly every person interviewed despite playing before many of them were born.

George McGinnis, Indianapolis Washington, 1969: Led team to unbeaten championship season in 1969; 53 points, 31 rebounds in All-star game vs. Kentucky; Was first player in state to score more than 1,000 points in a season, averaged 32.8 points as a senior. Scored 2,070 career points.

Rick Mount, Lebanon, 1966: Fifth in state history with 2,595 points; Averaged 33.1 points as a senior; scored 57 points in a game as a junior, scored 47 in semi-state semifinal against Logansport on March 12, 1966.

Greg Oden, Lawrence North, 2006: Won three straight class 4A state championships and had a 103-7 overall record; won back-to-back Gatorade Player of the Year awards, a feat duplicated only by LeBron James. Finished his high school career with 1,873 points, 1,058 rebounds and 341 blocked shots.

Bobby Plump, Milan, 1954: Made last-second shot in 1954 state final to lead tiny school to victory. Was Mr. Basketball. His team inspired the 1986 movie “Hoosiers.” Was unanimously chosen by panelists.

Zach Randolph, Marion, 2000: Earned USA Today and Parade First-Team All-American honors as a senior; named MVP of the 2000 McDonald's All-American game; led Marion to the 2000 Class 4A State Championship.

Jimmy Rayl, Kokomo, 1959: Led team to state final; scored 114 points in final four games of tourney; 1,632 career points. Averaged 29.3 points his senior year.

Oscar Robertson, Indianapolis Crispus Attucks, 1956: Won state in 1955 and '56; the latter was the first to win state with an unbeaten record and first all-black team to win a state title in the nation; Mr. Basketball, 1956; scored 62 points against Sacred Heart on Feb. 11, 1956; scored 1,825 career points.

Glenn Robinson, Gary Roosevelt, 1991: Won 1991 state title against Indianapolis Brebeuf and star Alan Henderson; was Mr. Basketball.

Scott Skiles, Plymouth, 1982: Scored 1,788 career points; scored 39 points in state title win in 1982; Averaged 29.3 points per game as a senior.

Homer Stonebraker, Wingate, 1914: Led team to state titles in 1913 and 1914; Scored all of his team's points in one state tournament win in 1914; scored 18 points in 1914 state final; once scored 74 points in a game.

Deshaun Thomas, Ft. Wayne Luers, 2010: Third in state history with 3,018 points; won Class 2A state titles in 2008 and 2009; had 34 points and 15 rebounds in 2009 title win over Brownstown Central; will attend Ohio State.

Tom and Dick Van Arsdale, Indianapolis Manual, 1961: Twins shared Mr. Basketball and Trester Awards in 1961. Dick scored 26 points in 1961 state final.

John Wooden, Martinsville, 1928: Best known as UCLA's coach during its heyday, Wooden first made a name as an Indiana high school player. Played on Martinsville's 1927 state championship team his junior year, and was on runner-up teams in 1926 and 1928.

Robert “Fuzzy” Vandivier, Franklin, 1922: Led team to state titles in 1920, 1921 and 1922; team had winning streaks of 29 and 48 games.


That's just plain stupid.

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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2010, 10:26:17 AM »
Cliff Christl did this a couple of years ago for Wisconsin - not as good as Indiana's list:

THE FIRST TEAM

JOE WOLF, 6-10, KOHLER
Played 1979-’83. Scored 2,086 points, including a high of 804 as a junior. Played in the McDonald’s All-American Game. "He was legendary," said Tom Desotell, coach at Sheboygan North. "Man! He could shoot from the perimeter. He could take it inside. You couldn’t stop him." AP and UPI player of the year, and Mr. Basketball as a senior. AP and UPI all-state as a senior and junior.
(Played 11 years in the NBA. Played four years at North Carolina.)


FRED BROWN, 6-2, MILWAUKEE LINCOLN  (aka, "Downtown" Freddie Brown)
Played 1964-’67. Scored 1,108 points, including 604 as a senior. Averaged 21.2 points in six state tournament games as his team won back-to-back titles his junior and senior years. "Fred Brown was the best player that I’ve ever seen in high school," said John Weinert, former coach at Milwaukee King and later coach at Bowling Green. "He could do everything. Low key. But he had great range, great jumping ability. What he did best was, he was a great, great defensive player. He could play one-on-one defense as well as anybody that I’ve ever seen in high school." AP all-state and UPI second team as a senior.
(Played 13 years in the NBA. Played two years at Iowa and named AP third team All-American as a senior.)


JIM CHONES, 6-11,
RACINE PARK /
ST. CATHERINE’S
Played 1966-’69. Scored 1,073 points, including 630 as a senior. Led the WISAA state tournament with 94 points when his team won the title his senior year to finish 26-0. "He was super," said Joe Buneta, former coach at Milwaukee Pius. "Big, tall, strong. He was a dominating high school player. Mostly jump shots, hook shots, rebounds. He had a nice build for a high school player." UPI player of the year as a senior. AP and UPI all-state as a senior.
(Played two years in the ABA and eight in the NBA. Played two-plus years at Marquette and named AP All-American as a junior.)


TONY BENNETT, 6-0, GREEN BAY PREBLE
Played 1985-’88. Scored 1,340 points, including 689 as a senior. "He was just so solid," said Dick Diener, coach at Fond du Lac. "Tough all the way around. He was a guy who just never made mistakes with the ball. He was a good pull-up jump shooter. He made everybody around him better. Never anything real flashy, but a great all-around percentage player." AP and UPI player of the year, and Mr. Basketball as a senior. AP and UPI all-state as a senior. AP third team and UPI second team as a junior.
(Played three years in the NBA. Played four years at UW-Green Bay and ranked first in all-time scoring.)


DON KOJIS, 6-5, MILWAUKEE NOTRE DAME
Played 1954-’57. Scored 1,398 points, including 689 as a senior. Averaged 31.3 points per game as a senior. "Great! Extremely tough on the boards, offensively and defensively," said Bob Jaskulski, former coach at Milwaukee Tech. "He was a good perimeter shooter. But in high school, he was so strong inside that’s where he operated." AP all-state as a senior.
(Played 12 years in the NBA. Played three years at Marquette and ranked ninth in all-time scoring.)


THE SECOND TEAM

CLARENCE SHERROD, 6-0, MILWAUKEE LINCOLN
Played 1964-’67. Scored 1,021 points, including 548 as a senior. Averaged 19.7 points in six state tournament games as his team won back-to-back titles his junior and senior years. "He was better than (Fred) Brown in high school," said Stan DuFrane, former coach at Janesville Craig. "So quick. He could do everything. There’d be two guys there and he’d go right between them. He was one of the first guys to bring the ball behind his back and dribble." AP and UPI all-state as a senior.
(Played three years at Wisconsin and ranked eighth in all-time scoring.)


SAM OKEY, 6-7, CASSVILLE
Played 1991-’95. Scored 2,539 points, including 844 as a senior. Played in the McDonald’s All-American Game. "Probably the best high school player I saw in Wisconsin up to that point," said Jim Nedelcoff, former coach at Southwestern. "He could rebound. He could shoot. He was a tremendous passer. He could do everything." AP and Milwaukee Journal player of the year as a senior and junior, and Mr. Basketball as a senior. AP and Milwaukee Journal all-state as a senior and junior. AP and Milwaukee Journal second team as a sophomore.
(Played two years at Wisconsin and named Big Ten freshman of the year. Played one year at Iowa.)


JOHN JOHNSON, 6-6, MILWAUKEE ST. BENEDICT /
MILWAUKEE MESSMER
Played 1963-’66. Scored 1,493 points, including 680 as a senior. Scored 69 points and grabbed 64 rebounds in the WISAA state tournament when his team won the title his senior year. "He was tremendous," said Tom Sager, former coach at Milwaukee Don Bosco. "He was a big forward who could really handle the ball, shoot well, rebound. Drive to the basket. Dominating rebounder. He was like a center who could play anywhere." AP and UPI all-state as a senior. UPI Private-Parochial all-state as a junior.
(Played 12 years in the NBA. Played two years at Iowa and ranked 20th in all-time scoring.)


ANTHONY PIEPER, 6-3, WAUSAUKEE
Played 1989-’93. Scored 3,391 points, including 1,063 as a senior. Holds the state records for all-time and single-season scoring. "For a high school player, I thought he was as good as there was offensively," said Tony Fiore, former coach at Crivitz. "He could shoot it. He could go to the hole. He could dunk it. He was an offensive machine. There was no way you could stop him." AP and Milwaukee Journal player of the year, and Mr. Basketball as a senior. AP and Milwaukee Journal all-state as a senior. AP second team as a junior. AP fourth team as a sophomore.
(Played four years at Marquette and ranked 23rd in all-time scoring.)


DEVIN HARRIS, 6-3,
WAUWATOSA EAST
Played 1998-’01. Scored 1,083 points, including 582 as a senior. "Liked him a lot," said John Boyle, coach at Middleton. "He was a competitor. When the game was on the line, he was at his best. Outside, inside. He could put it on the floor and go to the hole. He was pretty versatile. He could make the pass, too." AP player of the year and Mr. Basketball as a senior. AP and Journal Sentinel / WBCA all-state as a senior.
(Playing his first season in the NBA. Played three years at Wisconsin and ranked seventh in all-time scoring.)


THE THIRD TEAM

BILL HANZLIK, 6-7, BELOIT
Played 1975-’76. Scored 469 points. Transferred from Portland, Ore. "He was a dynamite player," said Jim Stevens, former coach at Madison West. "He could do everything physically. Nobody could defend him out there. Plus, he was a constant threat to drive." AP and UPI all-state as a senior.
(Played 10 years in the NBA. Played four years at Notre Dame.)


NICK VAN EXEL, 6-0, KENOSHA
ST. JOSEPH
Played 1987-’89. Scored 1,282 points, including 772 as a senior. Led the WISAA state tournament in scoring as a junior and senior when his team lost in the finals both years. "They couldn’t stop him with a club. They can’t stop him now," said Tom Sager, former coach at Racine Park. "He had an attitude. He was spunky. He had a chip on his shoulder. He could play, though." AP all-state as a senior.
(Playing his 12th season in the NBA. Played two years at Cincinnati and named AP third team All-American as a senior.)


KURT NIMPHIUS, 6-9, SOUTH MILWAUKEE
Played 1973-’76. Scored 986 points, including 695 as a senior. Led the state tournament in scoring with 97 points when his team won the title his senior year. "He was just dominating in ’76," said Clyde Rusk, former coach at Milwaukee Washington. "He pulled that whole team with him, he was so good. They had four mediocre role players. He was almost unstoppable. He was a very strong player, very consistent." UPI player of the year as a senior. AP and UPI all-state as a senior.
(Played eight years in the NBA. Played four years at Arizona State.)


RICK OLSON, 6-1, MADISON LA FOLLETTE
Played 1979-’82. Scored 1,121 points, including 694 as a senior. Led the state tournament in scoring when his team won the title his senior year. "He was an exceptional shooter," said Stan DuFrane, former coach at Janesville Craig. "They ran their offense by getting the ball down immediately and letting him do something with it. Probably not quite as good a defensive player as some of these other guys, but an excellent player." AP and UPI player of the year, and Mr. Basketball as a senior. AP and UPI all-state as a senior.
(Played four years at Wisconsin and ranked fourth all-time in scoring.)


TRAVIS DIENER, 6-0, FOND DU LAC
Played 1997-’01. Scored 1,515 points, including 516 as a senior. Three-time all-Fox Valley Association selection. "Wow! He just got it done," said John Miron, coach at Kimberly. "He was an assassin. He’d look you in the eye and knock you dead from 25 feet. He just found a way to win. Game after game, he found a way." AP and Journal Sentinel / WBCA all-state as a senior. AP and Journal Sentinel / WBCA second team as a junior.
(Played four years at Marquette, helping MU return to NCAA Final Four in 2003. Diener broke his hand last week, ending his career at MU, where he now ranks third on the school’s all-time scoring list.)


THE FOURTH TEAM

JOHN KOTZ, 6-1, RHINELANDER
Played 1935-’39. Scored 1,180 points, including 467 as a senior. Led the state tournament with a record 64 points when his team won the title his senior year. "When he was at the tournament, I was there several years," said Horace Moran, former coach at Alma. "He was the first guy to come out with that one-hand shot. He didn’t jump, but he shot one-handed, flat-footed. I’d say he was (way ahead of his time). He was not nifty. He was a slam-banger around the basket." Four-time all-Wisconsin Valley Conference selection.
(Played one year in the National Basketball League. Played three years at Wisconsin and was a two-time all-Big Ten selection, including as a sophomore on a national championship team.)


BRIAN BUTCH, 6-11, APPLETON WEST
Played 1999-’03. Scored 1,461 points, including 623 as a senior. Played in the McDonald’s All-American Game. "There was a stretch where I thought Butch was right at the top of the list with the better players in the history of the state," said the late Steve Randall, former coach at Oshkosh West. "Defensively, he was average. But, offensively, he had a complete game. He finished well. He understood how to handle double and triple teams. His touch was very good. He was extremely quick following up missed shots." AP player of the year as a senior and junior; and Mr. Basketball as a senior. AP and Journal Sentinel / WBCA all-state as a senior and junior.
(Playing at Wisconsin.)


MAX WALKER, 6-1,
MILWAUKEE LINCOLN
Played 1959-’62. Scored 1,171 points, including 552 as a senior. Shared the state tournament scoring title with 86 points and scored 27 in the final game when his team won its second straight championship his senior year for a two-year record of 51-1. "He was so smooth," said Clyde Rusk, former coach at West Allis Hale. "He had a lot of basketball savvy. He just glided out there. He could score. He could dribble. He could pass." AP and UPI all-state as a senior.
(Played three years at Indiana.)


RON DIBELIUS, 6-1, MENASHA ST. MARY
Played 1952-’56. Scored 1,769 points, including 631 as a senior. Played in the North-South All-Star Classic in Murray, Ky. "He was so far ahead in the game of basketball," said Don Gosz, a former high school teammate who later became an assistant coach at the University of Wisconsin. "He was so far advanced it was pathetic. Great hands. Could jump. Could shoot. He could do everything. As fine a high school player as I’ve seen come out of here and that includes anybody today." Three-time all-Fox Valley Catholic Conference selection.
(Played one year at Marquette, signed a pro baseball contract and played two more years at UW-Oshkosh.)


ROY BIRK, 6-1, WAUKESHA
Played 1958-’61. Scored 1,357 points, including 693 as a senior. His state tournament scoring record of 102 points in three games has stood for 43 years. "When people ask: ‘Who did you play against?’ He’s the first one to come to mind," said Jim Smallins, former coach at Milwaukee Lincoln. "He was a big-time scorer. But he passed and was considered an all-around player." AP and UPI all-state as a senior. AP third team as a junior.


THE FIFTH TEAM

TONY SMITH, 6-2,
WAUWATOSA EAST
Played 1983-’86. Scored 1,006 points, including 500 as a senior. "Just incredible," said Paul Krajewski, coach at Greendale. "The heart and soul of that team. Even though defenses were geared to him, he could still get it done. He did everything. They had a lob play for him. He could handle the ball, shoot it." AP and UPI all-state as a senior.
(Played eight years in the NBA. Played four years at Marquette and ranked fourth in all-time scoring.)


MICKEY CROWE, 6-5, ST. NAZIANZ JFK PREP
Played 1971-’75. Scored 2,724 points, including 1,001 as a senior. Scored 901 points as a junior. "He was a gunner, but he could do a lot of things when he put his mind to it," said Don LaViolette, former coach at De Pere Pennings. "In the system they used, Mickey would come down and shoot. That was it." AP and UPI all-state as a senior. AP third team and UPI second team as a junior. AP fourth team and UPI second team as a sophomore.


WAYNE KREKLOW, 6-4, NEENAH
Played 1972-’75. Scored 916 points, including 499 as a senior. Led the state tournament in scoring when his team won the title his senior year. "Handled the ball one-on-one," said Dick Emanuel, former coach at Appleton West. "He was one of the quickest big men that I’ve ever seen." UPI player of the year as a senior. AP and UPI all-state as a senior. UPI fifth team as a junior.
(Played one year in the NBA. Played four years at Drake and ranked sixth in all-time scoring.)


MARTY GHARRITY, 6-2, SHAWANO
Played 1956-’58. Scored 1,266 points, including 706 as a senior. Single-game state tournament scoring record of 44 points stood for 45 years. "He was virtually unstoppable," said Warren Otto, former coach at Two Rivers. "I would have to say his defense was a little suspect. He was all offense, no doubt about it. He was a shooter. If you played him tight, he’d fake and drive. (Sam) Cassell goes in there, pump fakes, then jumps into the guy. That was Gharrity’s move." AP all-state as a senior. AP second team as a junior.
(Played one year at Wisconsin and one year at Northern Michigan.)


BOB SULLIVAN, 6-3, MANITOWOC
Played 1962-’65. Scored 1,222 points, including 556 as a senior. John Wooden of UCLA personally recruited him to be a part of class that included Lew Alcindor, who later changed his name to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, but Sullivan chose Michigan, which was coming off back-to-back Final Four appearances. "He was as good as anybody at that time," said Clem Massey, former coach at Menasha. "He could shoot, hang in the air. Excellent passer." AP and UPI all-state as a senior and junior.
(Played three years at Michigan.)

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Re: Top HS basketball players of All-Time
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2010, 04:48:40 PM »
Gotta love Indiana HS basketball. How about Kent Benson having more rebounds than points, thats pretty impressive. I met him at a basketball camp about 10 years ago, I wish I could say his friendliness was as impressive as his rebounding stats.

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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2010, 11:36:55 PM »
Not exactly a direct response to the OP, but MaxPreps had a similar look at 50 states, 50 greats in prep history: http://www.maxpreps.com/news/p0MgHlDiEd6pcwAcxJTdpg/50-states,-50-greats--state-by-state-look-at-the-best-prep-basketball-players.htm

Just ripping off of their page, California's "starting" five (HA! If that was even possible!):

Bill Russell (McClymonds)
Bill Walton (Helix)
Reggie Miller (Riverside Poly)
Paul Pierce (Inglewood)
Jason Kidd (St. Joseph's)

Another interesting link (don't think it has been updated DJ Newbill's record is on there) is the top High-Scorers in Prep History by state: http://www.luckyshow.org/basketball/USHighHighs


Where Newbill ranks among top Pennsylvania games...

Pennsylvania High School Boys Basketball Single-Game Scoring Records
  114 pts. Pete Cimino, Bristol High (W 134-86) Palisades, 1/22/1960 (6'2"•44 FGs•26 FTs•69 in 2nd half•94 last 3 qtrs.)  132-81? 132-86?
   92 pts. Bob Mullery, Plymouth St. Vincent's (W 128-38) Sacred Heart-Plains, 2/18/1957 (41 FG•10 FT•28 in 1st qtr.49 in 2nd half) 1956?
   92 pts. Mike Kasnick, Shade Central City (W 107-53) Turkeyfoot Valley, 2/27/1957 (Confluence, Pa.) (41 FGs•10 FT)
   90 pts. Wilt Chamberlain, Overbrook (W 123-21) Roxborough, 2/17/1955 (Philadelphia) (60 pts. in 12 minutes•36-41 FG•18-26 FT)
   90 pts. Cal Vogel, Wilson Boro Nazareth (W 95-52) Pen Argyl, 2/25/1955 (28 FG; 34 of 37 FT; 50 in 1st half; 82 after 3 qtrs.; 92-52? (Class B)
   85 pts. Ray Pauley, Sinking Spring (W 110-39) at Bethel High, 2/12/1954 (35 FGs•15 FT)
   84 pts. Reggie Isaac, John Bartram High (W 99-69) William Bodine HS, 2/20/1986 (Philadelphia) (6'2"•33 of 69 FG, 18-22 FT)
   78 pts. Stodie Watts, Jenkintown High (W 125-34) New Hope, Feb. 1955 Jan.? (37 FGs•4 FT)
   74 pts. Wilt Chamberlain, Overbrook High (W 113-58) Dobbins Tech, Dec. 1954 (Philadelphia) 1955?
   74 pts. Wilt Chamberlain, Overbrook High (W 127-50) Roxborough, 1/11/1955 (PSL) (36 FG, 2 FT, Played less than 25 minutes.)
   73 pts. Johnny Treicis, Elliotsburg Green Park (W 104-26) Carson Long, 1/25/1961 (31 FGs/11 FTs)
   72 pts. Ralph Miller, St. Mary of Mt. Washington HS (W 85-63) Braddock St. Thomas, 3/4/1954 (6'2")
   72 pts. Don Jonas, West Scranton High, 1956-57
(Jonas scored 32 pts in last football game same year, 112 pts. on grid season; in 1968 a 52 yd. field goal in CFL)
   72 pts. Mike Wilkes, Dallas High (W 110-40) Ashley Sugar-Notch, 2/1/1966 (32 rebounds)
   71 pts. Joe Holup, Swoyersville High (W 103-59) Wilkes-Barre Township, 3/18/1951(North League Championship)
   71 pts. Wilt Chamberlain, Overbrook High (W 114-51) Roxborough, 1/14/1954 (PSL)
   71 pts. Larry Hardesty, Mohawk High (W 98-55) Northwestern, 2/10/1959 (40 in 2nd half•16 in 3rd qtr.•32 FGs•7 FT) at Panther's Court
   71 pts. Jack “Sonny” Kubeika, St. Clair Saints (W 108-55) Schuylkill Haven, 2/9/1978 (27-35 FGs•17-20 FT•12/13/22/24)
   70 pts. George Long, Wiconisco (W 113-77) Mahoney Joint, 1/28/1964
   69 pts. Wilbur “Zain” Shaw, Chester High (W 107-42) Rosemont Harriton, 2/12/1991
   68 pts. Joe Lalli, Dunmore High v. Scranton Central, 2/4/1963 (5'9" Sr.)
   68 pts. Bob Sura, Wilkes-Barre GAR (W 111-59) Kingston West Side Tech, 1991
   67 pts. Tom McMillan, Mansfield High v. Elkland, 12/16/1969 (In 19 minutes•121 pts. in 2 games•185 in 3 games)
   67 pts. Dave Delenick, St. Clair Area (W 129-66) Schuykill Haven, 1/9/1973 (30 in 4th qtr.)
   66 pts. Tom Jones, Penns Manor (W 124-47) Black Lick Township, 2/12/1965 (5'9" sr.•31 in 4th qtr.•47 in 2nd half•26 FGs•14-18 FT)
   66 pts. Ron Kodish, Lock Haven (W 128-52) Bald Eagle Area, 1/30/1968
   66 pts. Ken Fritchman, Eastern York (W 107-1062 O.T.s) York Suburban, 1/25/1979
   66 pts. Michael Anderson, Engineering and Science (W 93-78) Thomas Edison HS, 2/9/1984 (Philadelphia)
   65 pts. Larry Clemons, Sacred Heart High, 2/14/1955 (6'5"•28 FG)
   65 pts. Bob Mullery, St. Vincent's High (Plymouth) v. Marymount, 2/23/1957 (157 pts. in 2 games.)
   65 pts. Larry Miller, Catasauqua Rough Riders (W 92-60) Stroudsburg, 2/21/1964 (34 reb.•25-40 FGs•3 dunks) 93-60?
   65 pts. Billy Harris, Penn Charter School, 1971 (Philadelphia)
   65 pts. Denny Schmidt, Southern Columbia High, 1972
   65 pts. Tim Appleton, Sewickley Academy (W 90-81) New Brighton, 12/5/1972
   64 pts. Bob Betnar, Plains High (Wilkes-Barre) (W 97-55) Pittston, 1960
   64 pts. Gary Messinger, South Lebanon (W 88-44) Northern Lebanon (Norlebco) Vikings, 1/30/1963 (5'9"•19 FGs•26-30 FT)
   64 pts. Tom McMillan, Mansfield High v. Canton, 12/5/1969
   64 pts. Tom McMillan, Mansfield High v. Liberty High, 2/6/1970
   64 pts. Herman “Harm” Harris, Chester High (W 116-56) at Oxford, 2/2/1971 (30-45 FG/4 FT)
   64 pts. Tim Appleton, Sewickley Academy (W 85-61) Our Lady of the Sacred Heart HS, 2/7/1973
   64 pts. Devonté “DJ” Newbill, Strawberry Mansion (W 105-14) W.B. Saul HS, 1/7/2010 (24-30 FGs•16-17 FT•14/18/15/17)
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Re: Top HS basketball players of All-Time
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2010, 07:39:32 AM »
A cautionary tale...outside of Chamberlain and Bobby Sura, I haven't heard of any of these guys.

And I didn't realize that they won 105-14.  You have your star player pumping points in when you are winning by that much?  Lame...

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Re: Top HS basketball players of All-Time
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2010, 01:23:53 PM »
List - NBAers who attended WI high schools

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/high_schools.cgi?state=WI

Wisconsin HS with two NBAers

Beloit Memorial - Bill Hanzlik, Kyle Weaver
Milwaukee Tech - Mark Jones, Patrick Eddie
Milwaukee Vincent - Rodney Buford, Carl Landry
Racine St. Catherine's - Jim McIlvaine, Jim Chones
Wauwatosa East - Devin Harris, Tony Smith

Who's missing from this list?
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2010, 02:25:47 PM »
List - NBAers who attended WI high schools

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/high_schools.cgi?state=WI

Wisconsin HS with two NBAers

Beloit Memorial - Bill Hanzlik, Kyle Weaver
Milwaukee Tech - Mark Jones, Patrick Eddie
Milwaukee Vincent - Rodney Buford, Carl Landry
Racine St. Catherine's - Jim McIlvaine, Jim Chones
Wauwatosa East - Devin Harris, Tony Smith







Who's missing from this list?



Homestead H.S.-----Cody Karl, Mike Dunleavy
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2010, 02:37:38 PM »


Homestead H.S.-----Cody Karl, Mike Dunleavy

That's pretty funny to see that both kids were sons of Bucks coaches.

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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2010, 03:42:23 PM »
List - NBAers who attended WI high schools

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/high_schools.cgi?state=WI

Wisconsin HS with two NBAers

Beloit Memorial - Bill Hanzlik, Kyle Weaver
Milwaukee Tech - Mark Jones, Patrick Eddie
Milwaukee Vincent - Rodney Buford, Carl Landry
Racine St. Catherine's - Jim McIlvaine, Jim Chones
Wauwatosa East - Devin Harris, Tony Smith

Who's missing from this list?


This list is fascinating.  I mean, I've never heard of Logan Vander Velden in my life.

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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2010, 04:55:51 PM »

This list is fascinating.  I mean, I've never heard of Logan Vander Velden in my life.

Me neither. Maybe it's the weird way of the universe to bring his life "full circle" as I present a youtube video with him...vs. the now-Final Four Butler program.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbibEZLFNRE

Plus that list is nowhere near complete as Wesley Matthews and his HS aren't listed. (I emailed them about it.)
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2010, 05:29:04 PM »
Plus that list is nowhere near complete as Wesley Matthews and his HS aren't listed. (I emailed them about it.)


I think these sites generally update at the end of the year.

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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2010, 11:51:21 PM »

I think these sites generally update at the end of the year.

Correct, because Vincent actually has 3 now with Marcus Landry making it this year.


This list is fascinating.  I mean, I've never heard of Logan Vander Velden in my life.

Really?  He abused MU back in 1993 when Dick Bennett's UWGB team beat MU in the First Bank Classic.  In a game played in the 40s, he had like 20 points, and KO had no answer for him.

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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2010, 07:51:35 AM »
Correct, because Vincent actually has 3 now with Marcus Landry making it this year.

Really?  He abused MU back in 1993 when Dick Bennett's UWGB team beat MU in the First Bank Classic.  In a game played in the 40s, he had like 20 points, and KO had no answer for him.


Wow....I was at that game too!

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Homestead H.S.-----Cody Karl, Mike Dunleavy

Its Coby Karl, but yeah.  Its funny to see how he progressed as a player.  I graduated a year behind him, and in HS, he was the consummate chucker.  He was a big guard for HS (6-4), but spent the majority of his time jacking up 25 footers, of which he would make about 25%.  His dad definitely helped in terms of him getting the scholly, but he worked hard and made himself into a player.

 

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