I Accept That We Lost....

[duanewade]

I accept that we lost and had ample opportunities to win this game and obviously didn't do it. 

However as a paying consumer of NCAA basketball by watching their commercials do I/we as fans have any recourse on getting an explanation on how one-sided the officiating was?  I'm sick of being this small catholic school that always seems to get the short end of blatantly poor and biased officiating as they play to the bigger fan base at a West Coast game.  I want to hold the NCAA and this ref team personally accountable for their actions and not just let this go yet again.  I know Buzz had to bite his tongue during the game to avoid a T and the game was still there for the taking.  But after rationally looking back at how much we grabbed our ankles again I want to fight back.
Calls that I recall include:
*two questionable travels on Fulce and Lazar at during the 15 point lead.
*two calls against DJO where he ran under the guy and made no contact and then later looked pretty clear that he took a charge....both calls against us.
*Lazar Hayward called for a moving pick that even the pro pac 10 announcer said was ticky tacky.
*Jimmy Butler makes a key far side defensive rebounding in perfect position and the call is on him.
*Jimmy Butler plays text book defense and half blocks their players shot and we get a whistle for perfect defense after the official saw it come up short. 
*Jimmy Butler gets a key defensive rebound and the replay clearly shows him passing the ball as he's falling to the floor with his pivot locked and the call is travelling which leads to yet another Washington chance to tie the game which they do.
*Acker picks up his 4th foul playing normal defense and bails Washington out with two shots at the charity strip. 
*Others pointed out the Lazar jump ball and the fact that Washington was in our jock every possession and didn't get the reciprocated tight calls.
I know I'm forgetting more and Washington fans can probably point to a couple they may have thought were questionable but the evidence is pretty overwhelming watching the video that we got the very short-end of the calls which once again played a huge role in us losing.  The loss will probably hurt us in the pocket book as I'm sure more money is allocated to the teams that win and the teams that win also get recruiting momentum.

In conclusion I've had it and want to fight back and if anyone has any addresses, emails, suggestions I'm all for it....then again maybe it's just bad Karma for me after being a Bulls fan during the "Jordan Rules" era.   

[Guy Fieri's Dad]

I could not agree more.  Officials are a part of a game and while I understand they will miss a call here and there.  There are just to many instances bias, poor officiating, incompetence, rigging, whatever yo want to call it.  The fan deserves an answer.  I mean the tourney only brings in $1 billion dollars a yr to the ncaa

[skianth16]

Wouldn't it be nice if the officiating reviews were public record?

I have a feeling that some of the refs tonight would getting an earful in the game review from their superiors

[MUEng92]

It would be more productive to find a horse and attack some windmills.

[duanewade]

Wouldn't it be nice if the officiating reviews were public record?

I have a feeling that some of the refs tonight would getting an earful in the game review from their superiors

Depends on who their superiors are...if their superiors are PAC 10 fans they probably got a pat on the back.  

I'm still pissed about the ND/MU game with the 6 point play where the ref kicks the ball back in bounds, misses a travel call, calls a three point play instead and then calls a T on Buzz for rightfully losing his mind.  That took away all our momentum we had in the 1st half of that game.  

[duanewade]

It would be more productive to find a horse and attack some windmills.

That is actually a pretty funny response.  I much rather we just still win games we had won than to go through these hoops but will as I've had it. 

[prestonluv]

You played a great game.  Do not diminish it by partially blaming the refs.  You were up by 15 with under 15 minutes left and you could not put it away.  No excuses, except that UW played much better than you the last 15 minutes and they were rewarded with their effort.

I love Lazar Hayward, he is a player that may make it at the next level.

UW(Isiah Thomas mainly) shut down your lefty in the second half and we have Elston Turner....that was the difference.

Good luck in the future and much respect for your team.

[GRIMMREAPER]

2 years in a row getting screwed on the location of the game.  Withstanding runs and playing in the final minutes are a lot tougher playing on the road.  Committee owes us one.

[NersEllenson]

Agree with you 100% duanewade...I keep posting the same thing:

When MU got up 15, obviously Romar told his guys they have nothing to lose...might as well overdeny, body up and make them call it.  They didn't.  It was sad.  Mo was getting bounced around out there like a pinball..and at one point they call him for an offensive foul.  Then, minutes later, the whistle him for a tick tack fould on his denial defense.  I want to know where these officials came from..what conference.  You cannot initiate successful offense when your point guard is getting molested the moment he crosses half court.  Their D completely took us out of the game, while the officiating of our defense rendered us pretty much helpless to play with the same kind of physicality.

[CTWarrior]

Reasons we lost in order of importance

1.  Terrible defense, particularly not getting back on D after misses (and some makes) leading to unnecessary easy buckets for UW
2.  Our reaction to the full court pressure was terrible.  Tried (unsuccessfully) to play keep away instead of attacking.  I always wondered why teams didn't pound it inside against all season and pressure Acker more on defense.
3.  DJO disappearing the last 15 minutes of the game.  1 FGA ( a line drive brick off the backboard) in the last 15 minutes of the game when he was getting wherever he wanted to for 25 minutes?  Really?
4.  Inability to secure defensive rebounds down the stretch
5.  Hayward's horrible turnaround 3 point shot in a tie game with 26 or 27 seconds left on the shot clock with 1:53 to go
6.  Missed laups by Acker and Cubillan contributing to the comeback run kicking in to full gear
7.  The fact that we don't have a true legit high D-I C or PF on the roster (I got news for you:  Otule and Mbao aren't ever going to be one of those)  I AM SICK OF LOSING THESE CLOSE GAMES BECAUSE WHEN PUSH COMES TO SHOVE THE OTHER TEAM CAN GO INSIDE FOR A RELATIVELY EASY HOOP AND WE NEVER CAN.
8.  A couple more bad calls went UW's way than ours

[NavinRJohnson]

2 years in a row getting screwed on the location of the game.  Withstanding runs and playing in the final minutes are a lot tougher playing on the road.  Committee owes us one.

Seems pretty clear in retrospect...we were no 6 seed, and I think most would acknowledge that, so in what was probably a procedural move, they gave us the lower number, but it came with the travel and the tougher draw (UW was no 11 either but their underachieving body of work all year led them there). That was the 8/9 match up we all thought we'd probably get, with the winner being rewarded with a chance to play a 3 seed instead of a 1.

[duanewade]

You played a great game.  Do not diminish it by partially blaming the refs.  You were up by 15 with under 15 minutes left and you could not put it away.  No excuses, except that UW played much better than you the last 15 minutes and they were rewarded with their effort.

I love Lazar Hayward, he is a player that may make it at the next level.

UW(Isiah Thomas mainly) shut down your lefty in the second half and we have Elston Turner....that was the difference.

Good luck in the future and much respect for your team.

Agreed but your not denying the officiating was as horrible as Buzz "pull back" game plan.  You wouldn't be so gracious if the opposite happened to your team and you were sent home because of so many one-sided calls.  I still recall Washington getting hosed against BYU in football several years ago for a BS excessive celebration call that cost them the game. 

[NavinRJohnson]

Reasons we lost in order of importance

1.  Terrible defense, particularly not getting back on D after misses (ans some makes) leading to unnecessary easy buckets for UW
2.  Our reaction to the full court pressure was terrible.  Tried (unsuccessfully) to play keep away instead of attacking.  I always wondered why teams didn't pound it inside against all season and pressure Acker more on defense.
3.  DJO disappearing the last 15 minutes of the game.  1 FGA ( a line drive brick off the backboard) in the last 15 minutes of the game when he was getting wherever he wanted to for 25 minutes?  Really?
4.  Inability to secure defensive rebounds down the stretch
5.  Hayward's horrible turnaround 3 point shot in a tie game with 26 or 27 seconds left on the shot clock with 1:53 to go
6.  MIssed laups by Acker and Cubillan contributing to the comeback run kicking in to full gear
7.  Te hfact that we don't have a true legit high D-I C or PF on the roster (I got news for you:  Otule and Mbao aren't ever going to be one of those)  I AM SICK OF LOSING THESE CLOSE GAMES BECAUSE WHEN PUSH COMES TO CHOVE THE OTHER TEAM CAN GO INSIDE FOR A RELATIVELY EASY HOOP AND WE NEVER CAN.
8.  A couple more bad calls went UW's way than ours
7.  Some shaky officiating, which always happens when one team is charging back.

Well done.

[GregClausenForever]

Reasons we lost in order of importance

1.  Terrible defense, particularly not getting back on D after misses (ans some makes) leading to unnecessary easy buckets for UW
2.  Our reaction to the full court pressure was terrible.  Tried (unsuccessfully) to play keep away instead of attacking.  I always wondered why teams didn't pound it inside against all season and pressure Acker more on defense.
3.  DJO disappearing the last 15 minutes of the game.  1 FGA ( a line drive brick off the backboard) in the last 15 minutes of the game when he was getting wherever he wanted to for 25 minutes?  Really?
4.  Inability to secure defensive rebounds down the stretch
5.  Hayward's horrible turnaround 3 point shot in a tie game with 26 or 27 seconds left on the shot clock with 1:53 to go
6.  MIssed laups by Acker and Cubillan contributing to the comeback run kicking in to full gear
7.  Te hfact that we don't have a true legit high D-I C or PF on the roster (I got news for you:  Otule and Mbao aren't ever going to be one of those)  I AM SICK OF LOSING THESE CLOSE GAMES BECAUSE WHEN PUSH COMES TO CHOVE THE OTHER TEAM CAN GO INSIDE FOR A RELATIVELY EASY HOOP AND WE NEVER CAN.
8.  A couple more bad calls went UW's way than ours
7.  Some shaky officiating, which always happens when one team is charging back.

Spot on.  It boiled down to a lack of aggressiveness down the stretch, a defensive meltdown, and some poor shots and passes.

We let them outrun us WAY TOO MUCH.  How many easy transition baskets did we give up?  It was easily the most of the year.  Some of UW's 60+ FG percentage came from hot hands, but we gave up way too many easy baskets.

Jimmy had a defensive meltdown on the final play.  These guys weren't willing to run or play defense with their feet in the final 12 minutes.

[GRIMMREAPER]

Seems pretty clear in retrospect...we were no 6 seed, and I think most would acknowledge that, so in what was probably a procedural move, they gave us the lower number, but it came with the travel and the tougher draw (UW was no 11 either but their underachieving body of work all year led them there). That was the 8/9 match up we all thought we'd probably get, with the winner being rewarded with a chance to play a 3 seed instead of a 1.

So you're saying the committee says "you're a 6 seed, but not really so we'll put you in a tough spot to play instead".  If that's the case that's ridiculous and a totally illogical procedure

[duanewade]

Reasons we lost in order of importance

1.  Terrible defense, particularly not getting back on D after misses (and some makes) leading to unnecessary easy buckets for UW
2.  Our reaction to the full court pressure was terrible.  Tried (unsuccessfully) to play keep away instead of attacking.  I always wondered why teams didn't pound it inside against all season and pressure Acker more on defense.
3.  DJO disappearing the last 15 minutes of the game.  1 FGA ( a line drive brick off the backboard) in the last 15 minutes of the game when he was getting wherever he wanted to for 25 minutes?  Really?
4.  Inability to secure defensive rebounds down the stretch
5.  Hayward's horrible turnaround 3 point shot in a tie game with 26 or 27 seconds left on the shot clock with 1:53 to go
6.  Missed laups by Acker and Cubillan contributing to the comeback run kicking in to full gear
7.  The fact that we don't have a true legit high D-I C or PF on the roster (I got news for you:  Otule and Mbao aren't ever going to be one of those)  I AM SICK OF LOSING THESE CLOSE GAMES BECAUSE WHEN PUSH COMES TO SHOVE THE OTHER TEAM CAN GO INSIDE FOR A RELATIVELY EASY HOOP AND WE NEVER CAN.
8.  A couple more bad calls went UW's way than ours

A very politically correct answer...thanks for the lecture.

[ATWizJr]

2 years in a row getting screwed on the location of the game.  Withstanding runs and playing in the final minutes are a lot tougher playing on the road.  Committee owes us one.

Nah.  The committee gave us a great, probably undeserved seed, and we could not take advantage of the opportunity.  Aggravating to the max.

[NavinRJohnson]

So you're saying the committee says "you're a 6 seed, but not really so we'll put you in a tough spot to play instead".  If that's the case that's ridiculous and a totally illogical procedure

Been that way for years. They can move teams up or down a line to avoid conference teams meeting, etc. There is no doubt in my mind that if they took the stupid 'keep teams close to home' approach out of the equation, and it didn't matter if you played conference teams, etc., there is no way MU would have ended up with a  6 seed. They absolutely give teams better seeds but make them travel, or play a tougher opponent in exchange.

[GRIMMREAPER]

I understand how we got a good seed, as did everyone in the Big East.  It has more to do with Utah St and Washington having advantages on us.  I'm not saying we should play in Chicago, but we should at least be on a neutral court.  

[duanewade]

Spot on.  It boiled down to a lack of aggressiveness down the stretch, a defensive meltdown, and some poor shots and passes.

We let them outrun us WAY TOO MUCH.  How many easy transition baskets did we give up?  It was easily the most of the year.  Some of UW's 60+ FG percentage came from hot hands, but we gave up way too many easy baskets.

Jimmy had a defensive meltdown on the final play.  These guys weren't willing to run or play defense with their feet in the final 12 minutes.

I agree with all that and pointed out those issues in other posts as well but to deny the officiating was blatantly bad and we should just sit back and take it every time then let's just rejoin the MCC and be a middle of the road apathetic fan base because we'll never get to the next level when we have Big East break up talk against us, Buzz to X rumor mill and lose games we could of won with better coaching and bettter officiating.  A Sweet 16 birth would of been huge in your face to the basketball world and instead we got it put in our face. 

[ATWizJr]

I understand how we got a good seed, as did everyone in the Big East.  It has more to do with Utah St and Washington having advantages on us.  I'm not saying we should play in Chicago, but we should at least be on a neutral court.  

C'mon man.  Seattle is over 800 miles from San Jose.  Not exactly a home game for them, was it?

[GRIMMREAPER]

And Milwaukee is 1000 miles on top of that 800.  Washington clearly has a strong fanbase in the Bay Area.  Just saying 2 years in a row is kind of shitty.  Looking at the other 11 and 12 seeds the only other team that has a favorable location is Minnesota.  The committee has to know this type of stuff and I understand that they have to move teams around,but i think it's bullshit that they say hey you're a 6 seed but we're gonna give you a tough location.  It kind of defeats the purpose of the whole seeding process in general.

[CTWarrior]

Just keep in mind that in our Final Four run we got a big push from playing Pitt and Kentucky in Minnesota.  What goes around comes around.  I think we've paid our dues for that now, though.  Prefer a more equitable location next year.

[MerrittsMustache]

When MU got up 15, obviously Romar told his guys they have nothing to lose...might as well overdeny, body up and make them call it.  They didn't.  

That comment right there sums up the game perfectly.

[timinatorx3]

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