Anyone still nervous?

[Windyplayer]

Lose to ND and in the first round of the tourney and we can kiss good-bye any seed lower than an #8.

[BrewCity83]

I believe we are a lock.

Unless...what would happen if we lost to ND, lost in the 1st round of the BET to a poor team, and (gasp!) suffered season-ending injuries to both Lazar and Jimmy.  Would that be a perfect enough storm to keep us out?

[ATWizJr]

I think you're all lying. Yes, I'm still nervous and, if we managed to lose tomorrow, I think there's a chance of us getting snubbed.

We are in regardless, and that's no lie!

[Oldgym]

I am worried exactly one thing: beating a hot ND team in our house on Senior Day.  'Zar, Mo, and Cooby deserve to go out like that.

What is this tournament you all speak of?

[MUBurrow]

I'm still anxious.  Maybe not worried, but seeing some favorites win conference tourneys would do a lot to settle me down.

[mileskishnish72]

The selection committee should make sure we're in because it will help the TV ratings - we've proved we can play within a point or two of anybody (good or bad).

[Doctor V]

WE are IN..Period.  At this point I would guess that if we beat ND, we are a 6 seed..  Lose to them, AND lose our first Big East tourney game..we are a 7.   Beat ND and win first Big East tourney game..copuld see us moving up to a 5 seed.  I've shared this stat on several threads but:

MU is 0-5 against the Top 10 RPI teams with combined losses by a total of 17 points
MU is 2-1 against RPI teams 11-20
MU is 9-2 against RPI teams 11-100

Furthermore MU has won, what..10 of its last 11 games?  Decent road record in Big East.  Our RPI is merely pulled down due to playing some really, really weak teams before conference..and of course DePaul and NCState, which will be looked at as anamolies.

You are dreaming if you think MU loses its next two games and gets a 7 seed...

I agree we are a lock, but at 20-11, 11-7 with our computer numbers not being so great, and with really only a few good wins and no great wins (many close losses to top 3 seeded teams and best wins over 5 seeded GTown and 6 seeded Xavier according to Lunardi) there is no way MU gets a 7 seed. Likely an 8-10 seed, and I would guess closer to the 10

I am not saying MU cant get a 7 seed. I think a 7 or a 6 would be an ideal seed, but I think it is going to take a win tomorrow and in the first game of the BE tourney to put MU in the 7-8 seed range. I think it would take 2 wins in the BET to lock a 7 or better

[ATWizJr]

Win tomorrow and we're a 7.  Keep winning and.....who knows?

[NersEllenson]

You are dreaming if you think MU loses its next two games and gets a 7 seed...

I agree we are a lock, but at 20-11, 11-7 with our computer numbers not being so great, and with really only a few good wins and no great wins (many close losses to top 3 seeded teams and best wins over 5 seeded GTown and 6 seeded Xavier according to Lunardi) there is no way MU gets a 7 seed. Likely an 8-10 seed, and I would guess closer to the 10

I am not saying MU cant get a 7 seed. I think a 7 or a 6 would be an ideal seed, but I think it is going to take a win tomorrow and in the first game of the BE tourney to put MU in the 7-8 seed range. I think it would take 2 wins in the BET to lock a 7 or better

I don't necessarily disagree with your analysis as I think it is reflective of conventional wisdom, etc.  However, if looking at all computer rankings..not just RPI..but the tourney committee can and does have listed Ken Pomroy and Saragin as supplemental information sources - we are ranked 19 and 21 respectively by Pom and Saragin.  I'll be surprised if MU is given a 10 seed, regardless of what happens..and also think we will get better than an 8 or 9 regardless of outcomes.  Say definitely a 7 with a win over ND..without any question.

[Doctor V]

I don't necessarily disagree with your analysis as I think it is reflective of conventional wisdom, etc.  However, if looking at all computer rankings..not just RPI..but the tourney committee can and does have listed Ken Pomroy and Saragin as supplemental information sources - we are ranked 19 and 21 respectively by Pom and Saragin.  I'll be surprised if MU is given a 10 seed, regardless of what happens..and also think we will get better than an 8 or 9 regardless of outcomes.  Say definitely a 7 with a win over ND..without any question.

Boy I sure do hope so. There are also other factors that come into play this year more so than others for MU, such as we cant play in Milwaukee and we cant play a BE team in the first 2 rounds. That means we can only get an 8 or 9 in two brackets (no East bracket because game is in MKE and no Syracuse bracket. If Syracuse gets the 1 in the East bracket then it kills two birds with one stone there). We can also only get a 7 in two brackets (no Midwest bracket because MKE and no Villnova bracket). We can only get a 6 in two brackets (no Pitt or WVU). Finally, we cant draw any of the teams below us (maybe L'Ville, ND, UConn) in an 8v9, 7v10, or 6v11

Its very complicated. Lets just win tomorrow and I'll be more confident of getting higher than an 8 seed

Question: Can Syracuse not get placed in the East Regional cause the 3rd and 4th round games are in Syracuse? Really blows for them if they are the overall #1 seed and get placed in the South Regional and have to travel all the way to Houston- seems unfair, especially considering Duke and UNC in the past and Nova last year

[romey]

Question: Can Syracuse not get placed in the East Regional cause the 3rd and 4th round games are in Syracuse? Really blows for them if they are the overall #1 seed and get placed in the South Regional and have to travel all the way to Houston- seems unfair, especially considering Duke and UNC in the past and Nova last year

I think that is correct.  It was dicussed here on MUScoop recently.  There was talk of Syracuse having to travel to houston.