Why isn't Thompson on the hot seat?

[ErickJD08]

You are an idiot

Good post... mods???

[LAZER]

If Thompson is on the hot seat then very few coaching jobs are secure.  They won't be in the NIT this year.

[GOMU1104]

Good post... mods???

You said Georgetown was headed to the NIT. My post was incredibly accurate.

[groove]

Good post... mods???

mommy, mommy, that boy is being mean to me.

run to the mods to protect your lack of knowledge.

[ErickJD08]

You said Georgetown was headed to the NIT. My post was incredibly accurate.

I wouldn't be so sure.  If they lose to Cincin, it would get hairly.  And I think they will.  

If you statement is accurate, then calling you a jackass would be equally as accurate.

[muhoosier260]

He shouldn't be penalized for being able to recruit.  But if you can recruit, going to the NIT is unacceptable ESPECIALLY when you started the season in the top ten.

As for Rick, its different because first and foremost, he has the hardware.  Also, he lost some really good players from last season and last I checked, they still have a better conference record than Georgetown.

rankings mean nothing, ESPECIALLY before the season starts. Look at syracuse this year, now #1, started out not in the top 25. Rankings in basketball are not an indication of how good you are. Same with recruit ratings. Particularly early on, team rankings and player ratings indicate projections and expectations; while they are a barometer of some sort, they're hardly exact.
So if player X is a five star recruit, and performs like a 3 star recruit for his college career, then he is a 3 star player. If this happens to several players (mb not as extreme as 5 v. 3 star, but you get the picture) then there is a perception that the team is losing games it shouldn't. But if the players aren't as good as you thought they were, are they really underperforming? You might counter that the coach is then responsible for recruiting good, reliable players, which is true. Bottom line I think JTIII has done fine, Georgetown should have high expectations but even back to back NIT isn't enough to have him get the boot. Thompson + Georgetown= ability to draw talented players.
edit: added 2nd paragraph

[ErickJD08]

mommy, mommy, that boy is being mean to me.

run to the mods to protect your lack of knowledge.

Please point out where I was factually incorrect.  I'll save you some time.  I'm not.

[ErickJD08]

rankings mean nothing, ESPECIALLY before the season starts. Look at syracuse this year, now #1, started out not in the top 25. Rankings in basketball are not an indication of how good you are. Same with recruit ratings. Particularly early on, team rankings and player ratings indicate projections and expectations; while they are a barometer of some sort, they're hardly exact.

Its not my point.  They were ranked high last preseason because they had quality players and quality upper classmen.  And they completely missed the tourney.  They didn't suffer any major injuries.  I think last season was a major failure for Thompson last season.  And I think this season, he is not doing great either.  So my point was that Georgetown is a higher end program and therefore GTIII might be in the hot seat after this season.

[LAZER]

I do not see them losing to Cincinnati and with their 7 wins over top 50 RPI, 5 over top 25 RPI they'll be in with a win in the BE tournament 10-8 should do it.  Not to mention a wins over Duke, a likely 1 seed, and Villanova.  They've got a lot going for them on their resume, the only real slip is a L to Rutgers.

I wouldn't be so sure.  If they lose to Cincin, it would get hairly.  And I think they will.  

If you statement is accurate, then calling you a jackass would be equally as accurate.

[Hards Alumni]

I wouldn't be so sure.  If they lose to Cincin, it would get hairly.  And I think they will.  

If you statement is accurate, then calling you a jackass would be equally as accurate.

If you think G'town isn't a lock for the tourney, you are out of your ever loving mind.

[LAZER]

Its not my point.  They were ranked high last preseason because they had quality players and quality upper classmen.  And they completely missed the tourney.  They didn't suffer any major injuries.  I think last season was a major failure for Thompson last season.  And I think this season, he is not doing great either.  So my point was that Georgetown is a higher end program and therefore GTIII might be in the hot seat after this season.

It is a high end program because of JTIII, a lot of history in that program but nothing that special in the recent years before he got there.  It would be comparable to Crean being on the hot seat after the 3 amigos left.

[GOMU1104]

Please point out where I was factually incorrect.  I'll save you some time.  I'm not.

I wouldn't be so sure.  If they lose to Cincin, it would get hairly.  And I think they will.  

If you statement is accurate, then calling you a jackass would be equally as accurate.

Thats fine...I wont go crying to the mods like you.


You were "factually incorrect" when you said Georgetown was on their way to their 2nd NIT in a row. Even if they lose to Cincy...it wont get "hairy."  They are a lock.

[ErickJD08]

I do not see them losing to Cincinnati and with their 7 wins over top 50 RPI, 5 over top 25 RPI they'll be in with a win in the BE tournament 10-8 should do it.  Not to mention a wins over Duke, a likely 1 seed, and Villanova.  They've got a lot going for them on their resume, the only real slip is a L to Rutgers.

I understand all the quality wins but they could lose to Cincin and if they do, they will be 9 and 9.  And there would be a chance they are 8th or 9th (not sure) in the Big East.  I don't know why they are "locked in".

[damuts222]

Georgetown #1 SOS in all the land

[damuts222]

Additionally they have beaten:

Temple
Butler
Pittsburgh
Duke
Villanova

[ErickJD08]

Additionally they have beaten:

Temple
Butler
Pittsburgh
Duke
Villanova

There is a chance they end up 10th in the Big East.  I think conference tourneys are going to be extra crazy this season with the parity in this year's season.  I think 7 teams from the Big East will go and if Georgetown is 10th, they will be on the outside looking in. 

[Marquette84]

You were "factually incorrect" when you said Georgetown was on their way to their 2nd NIT in a row. Even if they lose to Cincy...it wont get "hairy."  They are a lock.

I don't think so.

By definition, a lock cannot play their way out.  Georgetown can.

Say they lose to Cincy--and then winds up with the 9th seed in the tourney.  Their first BE tourney game will be against DePaul.

A loss to DePaul gives them an overall record of 19-11, 9th place in conference, six losses in their last seven games, including a bad loss to Rutgers and a VERY bad loss to DePaul. 

In that scenario, I think the committee looks long and hard at Georgetown and takes them off the bracket.

I don't think its likely that Georgetown loses to Cincy and DePaul in back to back games--but it is possible.  Which would put their NCAA chances in jeopardy, meaning they are not a lock.   

They have to beat Cincy or they have to win at least one in the BET.   

[MuMark]

Conference standings are only one criteria. The SC can and has jumped teams from time to time. IU failed to make it in 2005 even though they finished 4th in the Big 10 with a 10-6 record. Iowa was chosen finishing 7th in the conference with a 7-9 conference record.

Repeat after me....its the total body of work.........

They can lose the next 2 and still easily get in based on their RPI, SOS, big wins and record against the top 50.

No BCS school with an RPI as high as GT's has ever been left out.

ps. The most accurate site as far as who gets in and seeding has been Bracketology 101. They said after losing to WV GT drops to a 5 seed. 2 more losses and they drop all the way out of the tourny?

Not going to happen........They have done more then enough to get in even if they aren't playing well right now.

Lets also not forget that Freeman didn't play last night and was sick and totally ineffective during the ND loss.

[dsfire]

There is a chance they end up 10th in the Big East.  I think conference tourneys are going to be extra crazy this season with the parity in this year's season.  I think 7 teams from the Big East will go and if Georgetown is 10th, they will be on the outside looking in. 

http://www.bbstate.com/school.php?s=GU&a=sheet

Committee members may be able to see the conference record, but rank within the conference never shows up on the main selection sheet and ultimately should mean very little to them.  That 7-5 against top 50 RPI (with a good split of home/away/neutral) and #1 SOS should be huge for them.

[rocky_warrior]

You are an idiot

If you statement is accurate, then calling you a jackass would be equally as accurate.

Ok....you're even.  Now knock it off or you'll both get banned before gametime.

[Hards Alumni]

LOCK.

[Marquette84]

No BCS school with an RPI as high as GT's has ever been left out.

Keep in mind we're not taking where they are now--we're talking about where they would be if they lose the next two games.

The scenario would really be new ground.  There really hasn't been a team with a high RPI that would have done as much as Georgetown has since Feb. 1 to prove they don't belong.

ps. The most accurate site as far as who gets in and seeding has been Bracketology 101. They said after losing to WV GT drops to a 5 seed. 2 more losses and they drop all the way out of the tourny?

Repeat after me....its the total body of work.........

Which in Georgetown's case under my scenario would include a 4-8 record in the last 12 -- including six losses in the last seven games and two very bad losses in that stretch.

I think that the committee would be hard pressed to ignore the body of work and rely solely on a high RPI earned in December and January.  

The committee is known to give extra weight to the end of the season.  If they lose their next two, the last 12 games Georgetown will have a 4-8 record--which is about as close to proving you don't deserve a bid as you can get.

If you'd be comfortable on selection day with that body of work, then we disagree.  

I think they can still play their way out.  They need one more win.

[MuMark]

As you said I doubt we will find out since they are unlikely to lose out but if that did happen it sure wouldn't be good news for MU since as of now GT is our 2nd best win.


ps. Lunardi just said GT is a lock.

[NavinRJohnson]

Does anyone know Jerry Palm? Maybe we could ask him.

[Big Daddy Z]

simple... its a brother thing