YES!! I hate the end of game strategy, but will take it

[ChicosBailBonds]

Can't believe we didn't foul them and gave them that wide open look, but I'll take it.

Need another road win and hold serve at home.

[CrazyEcho]

We just won a clutch game on the road and you have to hedge your praise with criticism of the coach.  You are so annoying.

[KC_Warrior]

Bottom line...a win is a win!

Love this team.  What heart!

[dsfire]

Props to Jimmy Butler for pulling in that pass for the dunk.  If that goes out of bounds, it's absolute disaster.

[Eye]

Right in the middle Chicos. Kind of gathering the consensus in the coaching circles is more than 10 seconds, don't foul, less than 5 seconds, foul.

[ChicosBailBonds]

We just won a clutch game on the road and you have to hedge your praise with criticism of the coach.  You are so annoying.

Stop.  It's the wrong call.  When you have one of the worst teams in America shooting the free throw, you foul them at the end.  Same thing Syracuse did so well the other night against G'Town.  You don't even give them the chance.  That was a wide open 3 point look and we got lucky it didn't go in.

I'm thrilled with the win, I think the strategy on that last play was wrong and I'm not the only one that will think that way.

But it's a win and I'm thrilled with it.  I don't care who the coach is, you foul before they even get into 3 point shooting mode with a team like Cincinnati.  That is the proper call, even someone with a "poor basketball IQ" knows that.

[nyg]

Can't believe we didn't foul them and gave them that wide open look, but I'll take it.

Need another road win and hold serve at home.

Agree.  Cincy had an open three and it just went off rim.  That would have been a dagger.

But, great comeback after a 26 to 2 run by Cincy.  

Buzz basically played a six man rotation today with Buycks and Junior getting only a few minutes.  Fulce only one off bench with significant time and didn't play last 10 minutes.  

[shiloh26]

Speaking of free throws, what did we end up with?  18-19 from the line?  Unbelievable performance on the road. 

[Shack]

Good point Chicos...settle down Echo.  You'll hear that same argument whether to foul up by 3 a million times from now until the end of the tourney.  It's a good debate, has nothing to do with Buzz Williams.  I thinkit comes down to how many seconds are left before you foul.  I would have fouled as well in that situation (only 7 seconds left).  There's always the risk the other team gets an offensive rebound off a missed FT.  I remember Crean getting criticized for that strategy as well for not fouling.  Most coaches don't.  

[Blackhat]

Fulce showed big in this game..  his best game yet on the offensive end.

[IAmMarquette]

Gotta agree with Chicos on this one. I was screaming at the Cincinnati radio stream (for some reason, ESPN Milwaukee was carrying ESPN news radio) for Buzz to call for the foul at the end.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Right in the middle Chicos. Kind of gathering the consensus in the coaching circles is more than 10 seconds, don't foul, less than 5 seconds, foul.

Considering they had to go full length of the court and considering how bad a free throw shooting team UC is, I think most coaches would foul in those circumstances.

Great win by MU.

Glad to see the Seniors do so well the last 10 minutes of the game.  Buycks, did he play more than 5 minutes? 

Fulce had a great game, not sure why he didn't play more in the second half.  Buzz's bench is getting even smaller.

[muwarrior69]

I agree Chicos, but the way we have gotten burned on inbound plays I'll take my chances on the 3.

[CrazyEcho]

Stop.  It's the wrong call.  When you have one of the worst teams in America shooting the free throw, you foul them at the end.  Same thing Syracuse did so well the other night against G'Town.  You don't even give them the chance.  That was a wide open 3 point look and we got lucky it didn't go in.

I'm thrilled with the win, I think the strategy on that last play was wrong and I'm not the only one that will think that way.

But it's a win and I'm thrilled with it.  I don't care who the coach is, you foul before they even get into 3 point shooting mode with a team like Cincinnati.  That is the proper call, even someone with a "poor basketball IQ" knows that.

Then why don't the vast majority of NCAA and NBA coaches do that?  You think Buzz hasn't crunched the numbers and tried to figure out the optimal play there?  

Option one:

Play perimeter defense, knowing that the have to shoot a three so you don't have to respect a dribble drive.  

Option two:

You give them a chance to make one free throw (assume it's one of their worst free throw shooters, a 50% proposition), intentionally miss the second, and then let one of the best offensive rebounding teams in the country have a chance for a put back?

You can take option two with your team, the people who actually run basketball programs will take option two.  

[Blackhat]

Hopefully they'll ask Buzz the question in the post game...

I don't think Buzz is dumb and if idiots like us can think up these genius end game plans I'm sure he can.

Buzz definitely plays it traditional at the end of games, he's responsible for W's, it better work out ultimately.

[avid1010]

Considering they had to go full length of the court and considering how bad a free throw shooting team UC is, I think most coaches would foul in those circumstances.

Great win by MU.

Glad to see the Seniors do so well the last 10 minutes of the game.  Buycks, did he play more than 5 minutes? 

Fulce had a great game, not sure why he didn't play more in the second half.  Buzz's bench is getting even smaller.

When did you want MU to foul on the last play?  I was looking for the same thing, but I felt they needed to let Cincy take a few seconds to get the ball past half court, then Hayward had an opportunity to foul, but it was a tough position for him to be in, as the Cincy player could have put up a shot rather than passing.  

[Mike Deane's Seat Belt]

yea it was the wrong call to not foul that team esp. given that they cant shoot well from the line.  

i hate when coaches do that, but i think it might be hard for them to play the numbers game and foul when they feel like they want to hold the team with pure defense.  that was scary and i cannot believe it didnt drop the way things have gone for us in these super close games.  but wow ill take it , and now ill have to get some nitro tabs for the angina that im experiencing after that game

[mu_hilltopper]

Chicos & Shack & Eye are right on this one.  Should have fouled with <5 secs to go, absolutely.

[esotericmindguy]

You act like we are a great defensive rebounding team.

I'd say Cincy is 30% from 3 and that ain't bad.

[mu_hilltopper]

Poll added.  We'll settle this the internets way: with a meaningless poll!

[chapman]

I agree Chicos, but the way we have gotten burned on inbound plays I'll take my chances on the 3.

Agree that I'm not so sure with our team it's an easy call to make one way or the other.  First, you have to execute the foul cleanly.  Then, if they make the second free throw we have to inbound the ball with no timeouts, and 4-5 seconds is probably too long to throw it long and not care if it's a turnover.  If they miss the second free throw we have to be able to pull down the rebound.  For most teams I'd recommend the foul, for ours, given that we subject ourselves to things we're particularly weak at I don't think the chance that we coast through all of that other risky business is any different than the chance they miss the three.

[muhoosier260]

We just won a clutch game on the road and you have to hedge your praise with criticism of the coach.  You are so annoying.

+1

[Nukem2]

Most coaches would not foul.  too may bad thing could happen.

[boyonthedock]

according to kenpom.com, St. Johns lets opponents achieve a free throw percentage of 71%, one of the worst in the nation at the defending the defenseless. THe good free throw shooting should continue.

[CrazyEcho]

according to kenpom.com, St. Johns lets opponents achieve a free throw percentage of 71%, one of the worst in the nation at the defending the defenseless. THe good free throw shooting should continue.

Yeah, I've heard their free-throw defense is awful.