New 2010 Warrior - 6'6" Jae Crowder

[Lighthouse 84]

Doughboy's got good taste as well....anyone check out his Facebook relationship? Is she coming with him to MU?

[SlappedButtocks]

im pretty sure its "jay". if it rhymed with buy it would be jai, like the lsu cornerback

Jai was the prepubescent native friend of Tarzan. Not the Johnny Weismuller Tarzan. The Ron Ely made for TV Tarzan. You had to wonder what the relationship was between Tarzan and young Jai.

[AZWarrior]

Jai was the prepubescent native friend of Tarzan. Not the Johnny Weismuller Tarzan. The Ron Ely made for TV Tarzan. You had to wonder what the relationship was between Tarzan and young Jai.

You can wonder for me.   

[TheVillaRicaWildcats]

Good point - changed. 

Also, thanks for posting TheVillaRicaWildcats, we kinda like undersized, underrated, underdogs around here.  He'll fit right in. Sounds like Jae is a good player, and most importantly, a great person.

No problem, I really think the Golden Eagle Nation will fall in love with Jae. He's very humble but confident in his abilities and I really want to meet the person that will out work him on their game. He will put in the time to be successful. I know there are many on this board worried about his size well lack of height but people don't realize he learned to play the game undersized and slow...those traits are no longer an issue for him. He grew up playing the 1 and 2, as he grew he took those skills and incorporated them into the 1,2,3,4,&5 at the JUCO level. I know with his commitment Marquette has expanded their fan base and open up a pipeline of talent out of the West Georgia area. Just wait and see...Marquette will start to see more commitments out of Georgia with this move.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

That's heartening to hear all that good stuff.

[Marquette84]

That's heartening to hear all that good stuff.

If this year is any indication, by the time October rolls around the consensus on this board will be that we can't count on Crowder because he's never played D1 ball, he's new to Buzz's system, there's a huge difference between Juco and D1, he's never played a road game in a hostile arena, wasn't highly recruited out of HS, etc. etc. etc.

Or at least that was the consensus regarding Buycks and DJO.

[tower912]

....from Murf. 

[chapman]

If this year is any indication, by the time October rolls around the consensus on this board will be that we can't count on Crowder because he's never played D1 ball, he's new to Buzz's system, there's a huge difference between Juco and D1, he's never played a road game in a hostile arena, wasn't highly recruited out of HS, etc. etc. etc.

Or at least that was the consensus regarding Buycks and DJO.

And of course it works both ways, and falls somewhere in the middle.  Unless of course Buycks is a lock for the NBA and DJO is the second best guard in the 2009 recruiting class behind John Wall, also things that were said before anyone saw them play.

[Josey Wales]

He is quick to take our all-time leading scorer's jersey.

That is a picture of Jerel with Jae's face pasted over it.

[Marquette84]

And of course it works both ways, and falls somewhere in the middle.  Unless of course Buycks is a lock for the NBA and DJO is the second best guard in the 2009 recruiting class behind John Wall, also things that were said before anyone saw them play.

I don't recall anyone saying that Buycks was a lock for the NBA or DJO is close to John Wall. 

What I do recall is that I took an awful lot of heat for suggesting that .500 was probably a fairer floor for the team as opposed to the 12th to 16th place predictions most were making at the time.

My guess is a whole lot of people have quietly changed their tune on whether they expect a 1st or 2nd team Juco All-American to meaningfully contribute without having to endure a sub-par transition year.

[wojosdojo]

Why is buzz picking up so many JUCOs? Won't Jae be the fifth?

[AZWarrior]

Why is buzz picking up so many JUCOs? Won't Jae be the fifth?

Yeah - I see your point, given his recent history with JUCOs and all.   

[GGGG]

Yeah - I see your point, given his recent history with JUCOs and all.   

Not to mention that three have been full qualifiers.

[The Pickle]

Forgive me if someone posted on this already but didn't see anyone say anything about Marquette getting a verbal from Jae Crowder.  I know some people were against signing him because of his height, but sounds like the kid is a legit rebounder having averaged over 10 per game even though he's "only" listed at 6' 6".  You never know how recruits will perform playing at a higher level so tough to say he can do the same in the Big East.  Then again, he could turn out to be Ben Wallace-esque in terms of coming from a smaller school and being of smaller stature but being able to put up big numbers.  I just hope he shoots free throws a bit better.  So my guess for starters next year.  I'm putting Crowder cuz who knows about Otule and Mbao and I figure this guy has to be more athletic... 

G  Cadougan
G  Blue
F  Butler
F  DJO
F  Crowder

http://texastech.scout.com/2/943944.html

[The Pickle]

Sorry about the unnecessary thread.  I see just below 137 posts on this topic.  My bad...

[The Pickle]

Bottom line:  We have athletes and we will compete.  I think Crowder has a chance to start if Buzz decides to go with a small line up.  It will likely depend on the match up, much like this year.

[AZWarrior]

Heck, I'd say he has a chance to start if we go with a "big" line up.   

[The Pickle]

Good point.  2-5 will all be about the same size.

[Josey Wales]

I don't recall anyone saying that Buycks was a lock for the NBA or DJO is close to John Wall. 

What I do recall is that I took an awful lot of heat for suggesting that .500 was probably a fairer floor for the team as opposed to the 12th to 16th place predictions most were making at the time.

My guess is a whole lot of people have quietly changed their tune on whether they expect a 1st or 2nd team Juco All-American to meaningfully contribute without having to endure a sub-par transition year.

You may not recall it but both of those statements were made

[The Pickle]

I remember Chicos saying DJO is a lock for the NBA.

[Marquette84]

You may not recall it but both of those statements were made

So here's what I found on DJO

"Spoke to a DI assistant tonight from another school who saw Darius Johnson-Odom this year. He said he was the best available guard in the country not named John Wall. Said he is a freak athletically and will make an immediate impact."

That little word "availalble" makes a big difference.  I stand by the claim that nobody was saying that DJO was 2nd best to John Wall--just that he was the 2nd best still available on April 1.  Huge difference.


Meanwhile, I didn't find anything on this board that said Buycks is an early-entry candidate.  I did find this article externally, that quoted his JUCO coach who said: "You can't forecast the future," said Kidder. "But I wouldn't bet against him playing in (the NBA) someday, I can tell you that."
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/42743242.html

I'd say champan oversold both comments.

Both came from outside the board, and neither found much support from anyone here.  Far more frequent was the party line of "can't count on 'em, inexperienced, juco is not D1, no Big East experieince, never played in a hostile arena  etc. etc. etc.

[Josey Wales]

Yes, someone said that DJO was "close" to John Wall. And dwight was mentioned in the same sentence as NBA by someone more credible than an internet poster. It seemed that you were implying neither of these statements were made in any way, shape, or form, so I was simply trying to let you know that they were.

[Marquette84]

Yes, someone said that DJO was "close" to John Wall.

To me, there is a huge difference between saying 2nd best available and 2nd best overall.   We'll just have to disagree if you think they're the same.

And dwight was mentioned in the same sentence as NBA by someone more credible than an internet poster. It seemed that you were implying neither of these statements were made in any way, shape, or form, so I was simply trying to let you know that they were.

Allow me to restate my objection to Chapman's post, in a way that will pass the nitpick filter:

And of course it works both ways, and falls somewhere in the middle.  Unless of course Buycks is a lock for the NBA and DJO is the second best guard in the 2009 recruiting class behind John Wall, also things that were said before anyone saw them play.

Well, that certainly wasn't the consensus on this board.  Nobody on this board claimed that DJO was the 2nd best guard of 2009, or that Buycks was a "lock for the NBA."   And they most certainly didn't offer those comments to support my point that we should be at least a .500 team in league play.

No, sir, the consensus was that these players were not likely to contribute much this year--too big of a transition.  Never played in a hostile road environment. Huge difference in play between Juco and D1.  etc. etc. etc.

I don't recall a single poster jumping in to defend even a modest .500 prediction with the comment that Buycks was an NBA lock, or that DJO was close to Wall.  Who are these people?  Where were they back in October when most here were ripping our talent suggesting that we can't reasonably expect them to be better than 12th?

Now I didn't think that DJO was Wall's equal, or that Buycks was an NBA lock--but I thought they were at least good enough to get us into the upper division in the Big East.  

It looks like most are coming around to my point of view on this--four months ago people criticized me and said I had an "agenda" because I dared suggest we expect something more than mediocre from DJO and Buycks.  It now seems that the expectations of Crowder are significantly higher. 

[Josey Wales]

The fact is, those comments, or comments very similar, were made by people prior to the season starting. You are just pointlessly nit-picking.

[rocky_warrior]

The fact is, those comments, or comments very similar, were made by people prior to the season starting. You are just pointlessly nit-picking.

LOL.  Curtis Loew, meet SJS.  SJS, meet Curtis Loew.

Carry on.