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ecompt

I don't think anyone here wants to be reminded of his tenure.

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: ecompt on January 05, 2010, 08:40:52 AM
I don't think anyone here wants to be reminded of his tenure.

A little dramatic. Dude wasn't Niv Berkowitz.

If not for his father, Maymon would've been a solid contributor all four of his seasons at Marquette.

rocky_warrior

Yes, I'll remove his forward years, but he'll still be listed (maybe with an asterisk) for this year.

nyg

Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 05, 2010, 10:15:51 AM
Yes, I'll remove his forward years, but he'll still be listed (maybe with an asterisk) for this year.

What about Otule?  Won't he be considered a sophomore next year, since he was redshirted this year?

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rocky_warrior

Quote from: nyg on January 05, 2010, 11:04:22 AM
What about Otule?  Won't he be considered a sophomore next year, since he was redshirted this year?

I don't think he can be officially red-shirted since he played in 3 "real" games.  Now, the NCAA may grant a medical redshirt since he didn't have that much playing time, but I haven't heard that we've even asked yet (please correct me if I'm wrong).

In general though, if you play in any games during a season, it's too late to take a red-shirt year.

nyg

Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 05, 2010, 11:18:06 AM
I don't think he can be officially red-shirted since he played in 3 "real" games.  Now, the NCAA may grant a medical redshirt since he didn't have that much playing time, but I haven't heard that we've even asked yet (please correct me if I'm wrong).

In general though, if you play in any games during a season, it's too late to take a red-shirt year.

So Junior has been officially redshirted and Otule has not?  Can anyone confirm?

4thAndState

Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 05, 2010, 11:18:06 AM
I don't think he can be officially red-shirted since he played in 3 "real" games.  Now, the NCAA may grant a medical redshirt since he didn't have that much playing time, but I haven't heard that we've even asked yet (please correct me if I'm wrong).

In general though, if you play in any games during a season, it's too late to take a red-shirt year.

I would be shocked if Otule was not granted a medical redshirt. I believe the threshold for qualifying for a medical redshirt is playing in less than 20% of a season's games. CO certainly qualifies. This is how Alando Tucker played against us five times.

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TallTitan34

Quote from: 4thAndState on January 05, 2010, 11:26:50 AM
I would be shocked if Otule was not granted a medical redshirt. I believe the threshold for qualifying for a medical redshirt is playing in less than 20% of a season's games. CO certainly qualifies. This is how Alando Tucker played against us five times.

Right.  I think Rocky is just trying to say that they haven't applied to the NCAA yet asking for the medical redshirt.

He will get one, he just hasn't gotten one yet.

T-Bone

So.  Was there an official announcement that Junior was red-shirted?  I haven't seen anything - and I have looked.
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ondo10

Quote from: T-Bone on January 05, 2010, 12:15:15 PM
So.  Was there an official announcement that Junior was red-shirted?  I haven't seen anything - and I have looked.

All redshirts applications are not submitted (or awarded) until after the season is complete.  Therefore, technically, neither Junior or Chris have been officially granted a redshirt.  However, it is almost a certainty that both will be.

chapman

Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 05, 2010, 11:18:06 AM
I don't think he can be officially red-shirted since he played in 3 "real" games.  Now, the NCAA may grant a medical redshirt since he didn't have that much playing time, but I haven't heard that we've even asked yet (please correct me if I'm wrong).

In general though, if you play in any games during a season, it's too late to take a red-shirt year.

Buzz has implied in a couple pressers that Otule's redshirt is all but certain.

Nukem2

Had an opportunity to speak with Steve Cottingham on Saturday.  He stated tht Chris is getting a medical redshirt and will have 3 years left.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Nukem2 on January 05, 2010, 01:05:57 PM
Had an opportunity to speak with Steve Cottingham on Saturday.  He stated tht Chris is getting a medical redshirt and will have 3 years left.

That's the best confirmation I've heard.  Tonight I'll change the table with these updates.

spiral97

If you do that then you might be telling opponent coaches that Otule might be playing against them in 2013... sure we want to reveal that information and risk them being able to game plan around it?   :D
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Skatastrophy

Quote from: spiral97 on January 05, 2010, 01:47:12 PM
If you do that then you might be telling opponent coaches that Otule might be playing against them in 2013... sure we want to reveal that information and risk them being able to game plan around it?   :D

MR. HAYWARD is actually Bobby Huggins.  If you perma-ban him it will take care of this problem  8-)

MR.HAYWARD

i think the reason he has not been taken down is becuase of the rumors that he may want to come back

ecompt

My comment on Jeronne's being taken off the scholarship table was not meant as a slap at the young man, Golden Avalanche. I was only referring to the manner in which he left.

Silky

Give it a rest ecompt.  You don't know what all went down.

rocky_warrior


77ncaachamps

Wow. That 2010-11 season is going to be critical. Vander's going to be the man and Jamail will hopefully step up cuz 2011-12 looks REALLLLLLLLLLY lean.
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rocky_warrior

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on January 05, 2010, 11:20:37 PM
Wow. That 2010-11 season is going to be critical. Vander's going to be the man and Jamail will hopefully step up cuz 2011-12 looks REALLLLLLLLLLY lean.

I assume that's sarcasm?  

Anyhow, moving Otule out a year made it look really odd with DJO being the only senior.  Nonetheless, in 11-12 Otule will be and "old" junior, Junior will be an "old" soph,  and Mbao will be a legit junior, about the time big men turn it on.  

That's not even mentioning Vander (who some think will already be in the NBA by that time), Jamail, Ewill and Reggie who I think with both be very good players before they're done at MU.

Ok, I admit it, I'm always optimistic for future season, but just looks like a TON of talent to me - without even knowing who the other 5 potential scholarship players will be.

77ncaachamps

Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 05, 2010, 11:45:22 PM
I assume that's sarcasm?  

Anyhow, moving Otule out a year made it look really odd with DJO being the only senior.  Nonetheless, in 11-12 Otule will be and "old" junior, Junior will be an "old" soph,  and Mbao will be a legit junior, about the time big men turn it on.  

That's not even mentioning Vander (who some think will already be in the NBA by that time), Jamail, Ewill and Reggie who I think with both be very good players before they're done at MU.

Ok, I admit it, I'm always optimistic for future season, but just looks like a TON of talent to me - without even knowing who the other 5 potential scholarship players will be.

Not sarcasm at all, Rocky.

Just looking at the players who will be battle-tested and have lots of game experience. Not much.
Talent? sure...but lots of experience will be gone in 2010-11.
The great hope is that Otule and Junior stay healthy, improve tons, and are productive this season and off-season.
SS Marquette

ecompt

Silky, I don't particularly care why or how it happened. It didn't work out. He's gone.

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