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muwarrior87

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 08, 2009, 11:13:22 AM
Since they're bigger, stronger and deeper than MU I don't find that strange at all.

That's what she said.

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 08, 2009, 11:13:22 AM
Since they're bigger, stronger and deeper than MU I don't find that strange at all.

Because those attributes wouldn't make their presence known in the first half?

It'll be a long year when we continue to take 11 or 12 point leads into halftime and then choke them away simply because these attributes have somehow morphed into the unbeatable despite leading the opponent to a double digit deficit.

Everyone is bigger. Have been for the last four years. I question the stronger given our training program. And FSU played one more guy then Marquette. Not like they rolled 12 at us.

Lot of reasons for the chokes but it comes down to focus. It needs to sharpen.


tower912

Yes, FSU played one more guy than MU.    What was most interesting there is that they went 4 guard, and were still bigger than us. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Hards Alumni

hopefully everyone can shut the hell up about this now.

damuts222

especially since he looks a little clueless
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g0lden3agle

[pissandmoan] WOW, what the hell is EWill doing in there??? He looks lost out there on offense and I'm not sure he can play D at any sort of impressive level [/pissandmoan]

Big Papi

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 08, 2009, 09:53:04 AM
How do you know he will get his a** handed to him?  Secondly, in games where we have had 20, 30 point leads he hasn't played either....that's concerning...I don't think his a** would be handed to him in those games (and if so, is that 20 or 30 point lead going to be jeopardy?).   

Besides, even in a higher profile game, putting someone like Williams in for a few minutes is not going to expose the team.  It's not like the other coach goes...."hey, there's Erik Williams, we have no film on him and he hasn't played all year so now we're going to run everything at him since we know nothing about him."

How do I know he is going to get his a** handed to him?  Because I listen to Buzz on his radio show.  Because I watch the Buzz Williams Show on tv.  The kid is not ready.  Buzz has stated numerous times that he will not put EWill or Yous in a game where they will not be successful.  He is mentioned numerous times that they will not play until they understand the scouting report.  Thats how I know that he is going to get his a** handed to him against good competition.

Yes he didn't play in a game early on against a patsy.  There were other reasons involved there.  EWill has played a few minutes here and there when we were playing mid tiered teams.

JakeBarnes

The biggest play of the game is when E Will healed all the sick by stepping on the court
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AZWarrior

Quote from: JakeBarnes on December 08, 2009, 09:11:55 PM
The biggest play of the game is when E Will healed all the sick by stepping on the court

You have to admit that was a classy move.
All this talk of rights.  So little talk of responsibilities.

ChicosBailBonds

FSU also had 4 games in 6 days, same as us.

NCMUFan

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One offensive rebound against UW-Milwaukee.  Hopefully from now till Christmas E Williams learns what Buzz wants him to.  We do need E Williams to contribute on the floor.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: mufanatic on December 08, 2009, 08:30:13 PM
How do I know he is going to get his a** handed to him?  Because I listen to Buzz on his radio show.  Because I watch the Buzz Williams Show on tv.  The kid is not ready.  Buzz has stated numerous times that he will not put EWill or Yous in a game where they will not be successful.  He is mentioned numerous times that they will not play until they understand the scouting report.  Thats how I know that he is going to get his a** handed to him against good competition.

Yes he didn't play in a game early on against a patsy.  There were other reasons involved there.  EWill has played a few minutes here and there when we were playing mid tiered teams.

I've watched his show as well each week.   I thought Williams did fine tonight.  He's a freshman, he needs to be out there due to the body shortage we have. 9 minutes, got a couple of boards, committed a few fouls, the team didn't suffer as a result.  That's all people are asking when we see other players make mistakes due to fatigue, etc.

Now, Mbao....wow, talk about lost.  That's going to take a bit more than just 25lbs to get him to Big East elite status

Hards Alumni

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 08, 2009, 09:57:36 PM
I've watched his show as well each week.   I thought Williams did fine tonight.  He's a freshman, he needs to be out there due to the body shortage we have. 9 minutes, got a couple of boards, committed a few fouls, the team didn't suffer as a result.  That's all people are asking when we see other players make mistakes due to fatigue, etc.

Now, Mbao....wow, talk about lost.  That's going to take a bit more than just 25lbs to get him to Big East elite status

well this was UWM, not one of the OSC teams... so... yeah.

Ellenson Guerrero

Thought E Will looked very serviceable out there tonight. Not going to put up big numbers at this stage but he does have energy in his legs, five fouls to give and can grab some rebounds. Really I'd rather see him out there getting time to develop than Joe Fulce. Nothing against Joe but I can really tell the difference between the two when they are out there so you might as well go with the Frosh.
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CrazyEcho

I loved it when he kept an offensive rebound alive by tipping it off the backboard.  I thought he played pretty well.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on December 08, 2009, 09:58:48 PM
well this was UWM, not one of the OSC teams... so... yeah.

Agreed, but I was more alarmed at the fact he wasn't seeing a minute of play against Maryland Eastern Shore and only 2 minutes against Centennary.  Even against OSC teams, it would have been nice to get him in for 2 minutes a half.

At any rate, good to seem him play tonight.  Hopefully that continues in the upcoming games....I think it has to in order to give him some confidence and to allow some guys to take a breather.

KipsBayEagle

I like how when maymon struggles he is developing, and when erik williams gets in and doesn't light it up he is clueless and not ready.

downtown85

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 08, 2009, 09:57:36 PM

Now, Mbao....wow, talk about lost.  That's going to take a bit more than just 25lbs to get him to Big East elite status

Chicos, this is about the 50th time you mentioned Mbao gaining 25lbs will make him a quality big in the Big East.  I am sorry but I missed the original reference.  Please elighten. 

downtown85

Quote from: KipsBayEagle on December 09, 2009, 12:41:37 AM
I like how when maymon struggles he is developing, and when erik williams gets in and doesn't light it up he is clueless and not ready.

I watched Ewill closely for all 9 minutes he was in there.  He looked a little uncertain but not clueless.  He didn't make any real blunders, particularly on defense.  I thought he had a good game for the reasons others have mentioned, building confidence, etc. 

nyg

Quote from: downtown85 on December 09, 2009, 05:03:53 AM
Chicos, this is about the 50th time you mentioned Mbao gaining 25lbs will make him a quality big in the Big East.  I am sorry but I missed the original reference.  Please elighten. 

Mr Hayward made a previous post regarding Mbao and the fact that once he gains 25 pounds and experience, by his senior year he would be like all BE, NBA ready, first round pick, to that effect. 

downtown85

Quote from: nyg on December 09, 2009, 05:11:38 AM
Mr Hayward made a previous post regarding Mbao and the fact that once he gains 25 pounds and experience, by his senior year he would be like all BE, NBA ready, first round pick, to that effect. 

Thanks nyg.  I figured it was something like that.  I am not going to step in the middle of that argument especially on a thread about EWill.

radome

Quote from: downtown85 on December 09, 2009, 05:06:40 AM
I watched Ewill closely for all 9 minutes he was in there.  He looked a little uncertain but not clueless.  He didn't make any real blunders, particularly on defense.  I thought he had a good game for the reasons others have mentioned, building confidence, etc. 
I did likewise.  I thought he looked much like someone learning a new position at a higher level (pretty in depth there huh).  Seriously, after watching last night and reading the boards over the past few weeks, I think that Buzz is doing this about right.  EWill will be good but needs to mature at this level.

PE8983

EW looks fine other than his defense.  He needs to back off a tad on his man when he is above the 3 pt line.  Just stay between your man and the basket.  He is going to pick up alot of useless fouls otherwise.

Anyone see that play with Fulce leading the break on that 2 on 1.  What the hell was he doing?  Hunched over, looking at Butler all the way down the floor, too close to the middle of the lane, passed to Butler way too early (who was fouled, but easily could have picked up a charge).  Looked like a high school JV play.  I must be missing something when I watch him play, considering he is a starter on this team.

NCMUFan

Give Fulce some credit.  it was a hell of a steal by him.  I imagine he doesn't get that many break away steals as a guard would since he is in the front court primarily on defense.  He did a good job, the play could of ended much worst.

Badgerhater

EW will be a contributer next year.

It is far easier for guards to adapt to D1 ball their first year than Fs and Cs, especially, if those kids are like EW and not yet grown into their bodies and learned how to physically use their body.  He has great athletic potential, but gets pushed around way to easily and I noticed on a play or two he let his man get the ball way to low and then compounded the error by fouling to create a +1.

Once he and his body has adapted to the rigors of D1 play, he will be fun to watch because he will be able to run the floor and still provide a shot-altering inside presence that will compliment Maymon's bulk inside presence.

Typically, the biggest improvement in a typical b-ball player is between the 1st and 2nd year.

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