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GOMU1104

Can we just drop this. Murf makes comments like this for attention. If you just ignore him, he will go away.  It will get worse before it gets better, so just pay no attention to him.

Murffieus

GoMU-----Make comments like what?

Are you disputing that Vander Blue isn't in the same type of talent as Devin Harris & D Wade coming out of HS?

The consensus is that Blue is top 30----Harris wasn't even ranked and D Wade was no where near top 30 in the rankings!

Not saying that Blue makes the NBA (maybe, maybe not)----depends how he develops post HS.

GGGG

Quote from: GOMU1104 on September 13, 2009, 03:09:25 PM
Can we just drop this. Murf makes comments like this for attention. If you just ignore him, he will go away.  It will get worse before it gets better, so just pay no attention to him.


Thanks Mom, but I'm sure I can handle it.

avid1010

Quote from: Murffieus on September 13, 2009, 03:53:03 PM
GoMU-----Make comments like what?

Are you disputing that Vander Blue isn't in the same type of talent as Devin Harris & D Wade coming out of HS?

The consensus is that Blue is top 30----Harris wasn't even ranked and D Wade was no where near top 30 in the rankings!

Not saying that Blue makes the NBA (maybe, maybe not)----depends how he develops post HS.

So because Harris and Wade weren't ranked highly, or at all, we should compare every ranked player MU gets to D Wade because they're ranked higher therefore meaning they have the same level of talent?  Like I said before, you're off on this one.  Talk all you want about a player developing, but there are not many players talented enough to develop into what Harris and Wade have.

pbiflyer

Quote from: GOMU1104 on September 13, 2009, 03:09:25 PM
Can we just drop this. Murf makes comments like this for attention. If you just ignore him, he will go away.  It will get worse before it gets better, so just pay no attention to him.
Sadly, time and TOS has proven that not to be the case.

The man makes assumptions based upon whatever supports his agenda. he says that Vander's academics are an issue becuase he read it on the internet.
I read that Baraka Obama is an alien from another planet on the internet. He wants to eat my brain. I am just connecitng the dots. Sadly, ignoring him won't make a sad, lonely old man, grasping for long ago glory days go away.

wadesworld

Quote from: pbiflyer on September 13, 2009, 05:11:19 PMSadly, time and TOS has proven that not to be the case.

The man makes assumptions based upon whatever supports his agenda. he says that Vander's academics are an issue becuase he read it on the internet.
I read that Baraka Obama is an alien from another planet on the internet. He wants to eat my brain. I am just connecitng the dots. Sadly, ignoring him won't make a sad, lonely old man, grasping for long ago glory days go away.
Haha this is a great - and true - post.

Murffieus

Quote from: avid1010 on September 13, 2009, 05:09:25 PM
So because Harris and Wade weren't ranked highly, or at all, we should compare every ranked player MU gets to D Wade because they're ranked higher therefore meaning they have the same level of talent?  Like I said before, you're off on this one.  Talk all you want about a player developing, but there are not many players talented enough to develop into what Harris and Wade have.
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No I didn't say that every ranked player MU gets should be compared to D Wade-----where did you get that?-----what I did say is that Harris & Wade were not ranked anywhere near Blue (that should tell you something)----plus I saw Blue play and I saw Harris in HS and IMO there is rough equivilancy there. Others think Blue is better than Harris I won't go that far-----but very similar development at the HS level.

Murffieus

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Quote from: wadesworld on September 13, 2009, 06:00:12 PM
Haha this is a great - and true - post.

I have heard from reliable sources that he has classroom problems-----also have read on the internet.

BTW-----why do you think such programs as Florida, UCLA, and Arizona are so interested in Blue------it's because he's an outstanding talent. You guys don't seem to think so------so why do you support the fact that MU is after him?

cheebs09

Quote from: Murffieus on September 13, 2009, 06:11:28 PM
I have heard from reliable sources that he has classroom problems-----also have read on the internet.

BTW-----why do you think such programs as Florida, UCLA, and Arizona are so interested in Blue------it's because he's an outstanding talent. You guys don't seem to think so------so why do you support the fact that MU is after him?

I don't think anyone is saying he isn't an outstanding talent. I think they are saying it is unfair to compare a high schooler to 2 NBA all-stars because he is ranked higher than them. By that logic, any player that is a guard ranked above where they are should be as good, which is completely crazy. If he is half of what D wade or Harris were we should be estatic. I think he will be very good wherever he goes, but to be saying we should expect that type of production is a bit crazy.

chapman

Good God, give it a rest.  Some of you practically know what the poor kid ate for lunch today, as well as what he was thinking about while he was eating it.  If he were a female the authorities would be closesly monitoring this thread.

esotericmindguy

Quote from: chapman on September 13, 2009, 07:36:08 PM
Good God, give it a rest.  Some of you practically know what the poor kid ate for lunch today, as well as what he was thinking about while he was eating it.  If he were a female the authorities would be closesly monitoring this thread.

Ha, couldn't agree more.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: chapman on September 13, 2009, 07:36:08 PM
Good God, give it a rest.  Some of you practically know what the poor kid ate for lunch today, as well as what he was thinking about while he was eating it.  If he were a female the authorities would be closesly monitoring this thread.

You're right....that's a double standard.  The authorities should be called in!!   ;D

thebadge10

This one is easy.  If Vander gets his way he goes to MU.  If Rita gets her way he goes to UW.  My guess right now MU is in the lead, but it's close.

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: thebadge10 on September 13, 2009, 09:13:34 PM
This one is easy.  If Vander gets his way he goes to MU.  If Rita gets her way he goes to UW.  My guess right now MU is in the lead, but it's close.

I'm not sure whether the hole this badger crawled out of is located in reality but if it is today seems like a good day for Blue to continue his maturity as a person and make decisions that make himself happy. Besides, playing with a best friend would be pretty kickass.

Another thing is that it strikes me a little creepy that random people on the internet know enough about a prospect to tell us when they are taking the ACT. Yikes.

GOMU1104

Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on September 13, 2009, 09:21:55 PM

Another thing is that it strikes me a little creepy that random people on the internet know enough about a prospect to tell us when they are taking the ACT. Yikes.

Blue himself made that known. He stated it in a recent interview.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: thebadge10 on September 13, 2009, 09:13:34 PM
This one is easy.  If Vander gets his way he goes to MU.  If Rita gets her way he goes to UW.  My guess right now MU is in the lead, but it's close.

Yes, because UW-Madison is so academically superior....good grief. If I read that crap one more time over at Badger Nation I'll throw up in my mouth.  Or the equally ridiculous, "MU is easy" crap from Swenson \ Redforeman.  Both schools have places for athletes to accelerate and for him to make that kind of comment shows how far up Bo's ass he is. 

Both are top 100 schools in the nation.  Both have excellent basketball programs and strong fan support.  Good luck wherever the young man chooses to attend.  I just hope if he chooses anywhere other than UW-Madison, some of the complete mouth breathers over there will have the ability to lay off Rita and the kid.  Something tells me they won't be able to.

Murffieus

Quote from: cheebs09 on September 13, 2009, 06:36:03 PM
I don't think anyone is saying he isn't an outstanding talent. I think they are saying it is unfair to compare a high schooler to 2 NBA all-stars because he is ranked higher than them. By that logic, any player that is a guard ranked above where they are should be as good, which is completely crazy. If he is half of what D wade or Harris were we should be estatic. I think he will be very good wherever he goes, but to be saying we should expect that type of production is a bit crazy.

I'm not comparing Blue to Harris and Wade as NBA players-----I'm comparing him to Harris & Wade as HS players-----at the same level Blue is now! (apples to apples)

Silky

Quote from: thebadge10 on September 13, 2009, 09:13:34 PM
This one is easy.  If Vander gets his way he goes to MU.  If Rita gets her way he goes to UW.  My guess right now MU is in the lead, but it's close.

Badge,
If he wants to go to Marquette as you say, why shouldn't he be allowed to?  Do the Badgers really want a player that is being forced to go there by his mother?  How happy will he be?

GGGG

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 14, 2009, 12:15:37 AM
Yes, because UW-Madison is so academically superior....good grief. If I read that crap one more time over at Badger Nation I'll throw up in my mouth.  Or the equally ridiculous, "MU is easy" crap from Swenson \ Redforeman.  Both schools have places for athletes to accelerate and for him to make that kind of comment shows how far up Bo's ass he is. 


I always found it interesting that a good portion of the football team majors in "Agricultural Journalism."  That was quarterback Tyler Donovan's major.  I always wondered how a kid from Arrowhead became interested in becoming an agricultural journalist.   ;)

Nukem2

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on September 14, 2009, 07:58:49 AM

I always found it interesting that a good portion of the football team majors in "Agricultural Journalism."  That was quarterback Tyler Donovan's major.  I always wondered how a kid from Arrowhead became interested in becoming an agricultural journalist.   ;)
Must that crushing demand from those farm magazines for writers who want big bucks.... ;)

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on September 14, 2009, 07:58:49 AM

I always found it interesting that a good portion of the football team majors in "Agricultural Journalism."  That was quarterback Tyler Donovan's major.  I always wondered how a kid from Arrowhead became interested in becoming an agricultural journalist.   ;)


Shhhh, we don't have a football program so we wouldn't understand how it works.

Daniel

#71
Ultimately, the parent's job is to try to influence their kid up to the moment of decision - and let the decision be the kid's - then once he makes it, you support the kid in his decision.  So hopefully BLue goes where he really wants to go, and plays for the team he really wants to play for.  And hopefully, for us and for him it's Marquette!

Go Marquette!

avid1010

Quote from: Murffieus on September 14, 2009, 05:45:02 AM
I'm not comparing Blue to Harris and Wade as NBA players-----I'm comparing him to Harris & Wade as HS players-----at the same level Blue is now! (apples to apples)

That's exactly my point.  You mentioned Wade and Harris were not well rated out of high school, so to compare apples to apples you would have to admit that close to every recruit MU gets is on par with Wade/Harris (apples to apples).  That's just crazy.  It's obvious that Wade and Harris were extremely underrated, and talent like that is few and far between.  I don't believe MU will ever see a player as talented as Wade again, and from the practices I attended while Wade was sitting his first year, and from TC's comments during that time, it was quickly obvious that D Wade was the best player on the team from the minute he set foot on campus.  I don't think Blue will be the best player on the team in his first year, and having said that, and seeing him play, I definitely think he could develop into NBA material.  To compare him to Wade is completely unfair to Blue as he's not blessed with the natural body/talent that Wade was.


GOMU1104

Quote from: packermania on September 15, 2009, 03:50:58 AM
Does anyone have any insight as to why he is mysteriously missing from Marquette's recruiting page on ESPN?


That list is so out of date, its not even funny. Dont take any stock in it.

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