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ChicosBailBonds

#25
Glad to see him back. 

thanooj

#26
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 29, 2009, 06:05:40 PM

Also, the Vikings run all things in NFL football.  

dude.  boo.


also, the smoking warrior = BEST.  IDEA.  EVER.
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willie warrior

Why is anybody excited over this?

Acker is not BEast material. He cannot shoot and is too small to play D.

He will only ride the pines. If MU plays him, we are hurting!
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

oshkoshbgosh

Agree -- Hope he doesn't take too much time away from the young guards.

mu_hilltopper

Can we talk about the elephant in the room?  It's widely rumored that Mo either failed a drug test, or was caught in some fashion, giving reason to him leaving the team in the first place.

So what are the rules in this regard?  Wouldn't that have rendered him ineligible, or create a suspension scenario for him?

How is he back on the team?

Or is the fact that he's now back on the team evidence that the drug rumor was not correct?

(Oh, and to those of you who think Mo isn't "Big East material" .. please.  He was signed by a BE coach.  Played significant minutes, started a number of games, did indeed contribute more than he was a detriment (which can't be said about all non-starters) and oh, yeah, was just re-signed by another BE coach, who obviously believes he has value.  Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. And then get the munchies.   8-) )

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on August 30, 2009, 08:58:17 AM
Can we talk about the elephant in the room?  It's widely rumored that Mo either failed a drug test, or was caught in some fashion, giving reason to him leaving the team in the first place.

So what are the rules in this regard?  Wouldn't that have rendered him ineligible, or create a suspension scenario for him?

How is he back on the team?

Or is the fact that he's now back on the team evidence that the drug rumor was not correct?

(Oh, and to those of you who think Mo isn't "Big East material" .. please.  He was signed by a BE coach.  Played significant minutes, started a number of games, did indeed contribute more than he was a detriment (which can't be said about all non-starters) and oh, yeah, was just re-signed by another BE coach, who obviously believes he has value.  Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. And then get the munchies.   8-) )

Bringing someone back who failed a drugs test is something I'd expect from the slimy Tom Crean.

The more things change, the more they stay the same?

muarmy81

Wow,
Didn't expect this to happen.  I've supported Buzz and most of his decisions.  I think he's got the program heading in the right direction but I don't really like this decision.  It does feel a bit slimy but in the big basketball picture it will add a safety net for Junior and Dwight Buycks as the get their feet wet in BEAST play.


Brewtown Andy

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on August 30, 2009, 08:58:17 AM
Can we talk about the elephant in the room?  It's widely rumored that Mo either failed a drug test, or was caught in some fashion, giving reason to him leaving the team in the first place.

So what are the rules in this regard?  Wouldn't that have rendered him ineligible, or create a suspension scenario for him?

How is he back on the team?

Or is the fact that he's now back on the team evidence that the drug rumor was not correct?

It's definitely evidence that he didn't fail a test.  The tests are conducted by the NCAA and a failure is a automatic suspension for 1 year.  There's really no way of getting around that.
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79Warrior

Quote from: MR.HAYWARD on August 29, 2009, 08:29:50 PM
absolutely stand by that statement....Mo will not be ahead of DJO, Buycks, or Junior on the depth chart.  However the experience of a 5th year senior with be a great benefit. 

How is Chicos quoting me when he has me on ignore?....poser!

Maybe Buzz feels the aforementioned need some senior leadership. Truly ignorant to think all three guys you mentioned are better than acker when they have yet to play a minute in the BE yet.

bilsu

That is the problem with these boards is that anyone can post some kind of story and we do not know what is true or not. If it is something bad, people tend to believe it. Maybe Acker did something wrong. Maybe he did not, but believed he be done with school by December as originally reported and felt it was not worth it to him to practice and not play much. Now he will be here the whole season and he feels like playing or maybe Buzz only wanted him if he was going to play the whole season. It is hard to question decisions we know nothing about. I for one believe he is a valuable addition and I am glad he is back.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: 79Warrior on August 30, 2009, 11:47:15 AM
Maybe Buzz feels the aforementioned need some senior leadership. Truly ignorant to think all three guys you mentioned are better than acker when they have yet to play a minute in the BE yet.

Hayward, when someone else quotes you, I can see you.  That's the only way.  Otherwise I'd have to take you off ignore, which I'm not going to do.  Has your son gone to Coach K's camp yet?

GGGG

Quote from: Brewtown Andy on August 30, 2009, 10:33:18 AM
It's definitely evidence that he didn't fail a test.  The tests are conducted by the NCAA and a failure is a automatic suspension for 1 year.  There's really no way of getting around that.


Yes.  Although the NCAA's drug testing only covers "street drugs" during tournament time.  Marquette can (I don't know if they do) test for street drugs during the season.

TallTitan34

I just assumed he left Marquette since Jerel was done.

mviale

Quote from: mu_hilltopper on August 30, 2009, 08:58:17 AM
Can we talk about the elephant in the room?  It's widely rumored that Mo either failed a drug test, or was caught in some fashion, giving reason to him leaving the team in the first place.

So what are the rules in this regard?  Wouldn't that have rendered him ineligible, or create a suspension scenario for him?

How is he back on the team?

Or is the fact that he's now back on the team evidence that the drug rumor was not correct?

(Oh, and to those of you who think Mo isn't "Big East material" .. please.  He was signed by a BE coach.  Played significant minutes, started a number of games, did indeed contribute more than he was a detriment (which can't be said about all non-starters) and oh, yeah, was just re-signed by another BE coach, who obviously believes he has value.  Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. And then get the munchies.   8-) )
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77ncaachamps

Maybe he WASN'T on track to graduate and his decision to leave hurt his ability to complete his undergraduate degree so with Brett gone and Junior's status up in the air, Buzz reached out to him (or Mo and fam reached out to Buzz) and this "re-"signing was created.

I dunno.

But I'd like to know the real reason behind all of this!
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HoopsMalone

The kid was probably burnt out from eating and sleeping bball since junior high.  His friends were all leaving and he did not want to be a role player with younger guys ahead of him.  But, while sitting on his couch it might have hit him that this is pretty much the last time in his life he will get to play basketball at this level.  Even if he some how makes a foreign team, he will not be playing at the BC or Madison Square Garden, and he certainly will not make ESPN ever again.  So, when MU randomly had an opening right before school started, why not take the coach up on his offer to play in a system you know?

I think it's great.  Freshman are always going to make mistakes and I think having Coobs and Acker there to break presses and manage the tempo in a close road game will help tremendously.   

chapman

It can't hurt.  Especially when we had two open roster spots, Mbao will sit some games, and Fulce's health is still being brought up.  In all honesty a tiny guard isn't a huge help, but it helps nonetheless.

radome

The young man's scholarship should be honored if he wants it, as long as whatever "happened" didn't equate to lowering our standards for personal conduct.  Like it or not, the team is idolized on campus and that means more visibility and probably a higher standard than for the rest of the student body.

GGGG

Quote from: radome on August 31, 2009, 08:07:26 AM
The young man's scholarship should be honored if he wants it, as long as whatever "happened" didn't equate to lowering our standards for personal conduct.  Like it or not, the team is idolized on campus and that means more visibility and probably a higher standard than for the rest of the student body.


While I generally agree, if he did partake in the activities in which it has been suggested, I think that he should be cut a break.  Unless he is a serial offender of some sort.

Kramerica

I agree in that if what was rumored is true, he should be cut a break.  Its not like it was a performance enhancer....

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on August 30, 2009, 01:16:43 PM


But I'd like to know the real reason behind all of this!

For me, it's pretty simple.

Back in June all seemed golden inside the AL. We had an unreal class coming in that featured a stud PG and two other players who could cover that spot. At the same time, Mo was into some kind of transgression that ran afoul of player conduct. Buzz said enough of that and off to the books for the diminutive PG.

Fast forward to the end of August where we see our stud PG hasn't been able to participate and is behind schedule and perhaps we have to rely on Buycks and Odom more for scoring so their use at PG would mitigate their best quality. Throw in a kid who got freaked and went home and a scholarship is now open for a team that suddenly could use not only another body but preferably one that is at least familiar with the PG spot.

Aha: Maurice Acker re-joins the program.

chapman

Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on August 31, 2009, 09:23:12 AM
For me, it's pretty simple.

Back in June all seemed golden inside the AL. We had an unreal class coming in that featured a stud PG and two other players who could cover that spot. At the same time, Mo was into some kind of transgression that ran afoul of player conduct. Buzz said enough of that and off to the books for the diminutive PG.

Fast forward to the end of August where we see our stud PG hasn't been able to participate and is behind schedule and perhaps we have to rely on Buycks and Odom more for scoring so their use at PG would mitigate their best quality. Throw in a kid who got freaked and went home and a scholarship is now open for a team that suddenly could use not only another body but preferably one that is at least familiar with the PG spot.

Aha: Maurice Acker re-joins the program.

Simple?  Seems like a lot of assumptions being made...

-This rumored "transgression".  We still have nothing but rumors floating around with little to back them.  
-The fact that a scholarship was freed up in June, when Acker initially decided not to return.  When Roseboro left there were TWO open scholarships for this season, and there still is one now that Acker is back.
-As far as being behind schedule and not able to participate, which player, Acker or Cadougan, actually worked out and played ball this summer, and which one, by Buzz's own words, may not have even picked up a basketball?  Yes Acker has years of experience behind him, but he has the same amount of experience playing with the six newcomers as Cadougan does and less overall talent.

I really don't think we can find a simple explanation.  Not that the explanation we're being given isn't filled with giant holes: the communications major who needed one quality semester into his fifth year to graduate but now is said to have needed the summer, the aforementioned semester, and two more classes in the spring decided through lengthy talks involving his coach and his parents that he would also return to basketball on top of it after not playing the entire summer.

GGGG

Guys....we aren't owed any additional explanation and none will be forthcoming.  He's back and everyone on the team seems happy about it.  It's probably best to leave it for what it is and stop speculating about what we don't know.

GOMU1104

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on August 31, 2009, 10:43:38 AM
Guys....we aren't owed any additional explanation and none will be forthcoming.  He's back and everyone on the team seems happy about it.  It's probably best to leave it for what it is and stop speculating about what we don't know.


Exactly. Only the involved parties have the full story, and I'm sure it will stay that way.  Nobody on here is owed an explanation.

Golden Avalanche

#49
Quote from: chapman on August 31, 2009, 09:56:29 AM
Simple?  Seems like a lot of assumptions being made...

-This rumored "transgression".  We still have nothing but rumors floating around with little to back them.  
-The fact that a scholarship was freed up in June, when Acker initially decided not to return.  When Roseboro left there were TWO open scholarships for this season, and there still is one now that Acker is back.
-As far as being behind schedule and not able to participate, which player, Acker or Cadougan, actually worked out and played ball this summer, and which one, by Buzz's own words, may not have even picked up a basketball?  Yes Acker has years of experience behind him, but he has the same amount of experience playing with the six newcomers as Cadougan does and less overall talent.

I really don't think we can find a simple explanation.  Not that the explanation we're being given isn't filled with giant holes: the communications major who needed one quality semester into his fifth year to graduate but now is said to have needed the summer, the aforementioned semester, and two more classes in the spring decided through lengthy talks involving his coach and his parents that he would also return to basketball on top of it after not playing the entire summer.

Call it naivete. Call it experience. When 15 people have mentioned what they heard regarding the decision to leave, it's more then an assumption as to what happened. Personally, I don't give a crap about what took place. In fact, I think that substance should be used more widely then it is --- for a lot of people.

Fair enough with the scholarships but that doesn't take into account what happened with the Clearinghouse. The feeling in June was a lot different then after seeing the Clearinghouse force Cadougan on his ass for two months. You also have to remember that Buzz was working very hard to fill that open scholarship with recruits who were late qualifiers.

And you're foolhardy to suggest anything other then Cadougan being behind schedule. I'm not saying it will lead to any negative play (not like we'd have anything to measure against) but not being able to be on campus with his teammates and in the MU strength program IS being behind schedule. It will probably be made up in a few sessions and be no big issue.

In the end, we all have blinders on with regard to something in our lives.

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