Brett Roseboro no longer attending Marquette?

[Freeport Warrior]

"I couldn't help but think while I was reading that Roseboro is 50/50 to stay in the program, just doesn't seem to fit the mold (stud athlete, physical play). He sounds like Novak without a shot and worse D."

When I wrote this gut feeling last month after reading Rosiak's blog, Renko blasted me. Can I give myself a +1?

[MR.HAYWARD]

i also agree with MUfan2 on the whole Menard analogy.  yet I do not have a problem with Buzz taking a chance on the kid, he is 6'10 and i am sure Buzz never expected him to be a true stud for Mu, but if he would have decided to commit he may have been able to develop to be a player that could have helped or been aminimal role player by his junior or senior years.  

Evry team needs a 12th or 13th man and even better if he is 6'10...now not every kid wants to be a 13th man and often time become distraught and over welmed.  seems Brett became less and less optimistic and more discouraged as he saw the disparity.  

Again i have no probem with buzz signing a 6'10 guy that showed some flashes against top flight comp on a few occasiosn.  Additionally i 100% guarantee this was all Brett.  Buzz and co did everything they could to try to get him to give it a go and see waht the year brought.  

I must admit i was pessimistic after he was named second team all conference as a senior after shooting 45% and scoring 13 points a agme in a conference that has never produced a D1 BBall player before.  no real way to be optimistic about that.  

[schubert33]

i also agree with MUfan2 on the whole Menard analogy.  yet I do not have a problem with Buzz taking a chance on the kid, he is 6'10 and i am sure Buzz never expected him to be a true stud for Mu, but if he would have decided to commit he may have been able to develop to be a player that could have helped or been aminimal role player by his junior or senior years.  

Evry team needs a 12th or 13th man and even better if he is 6'10...now not every kid wants to be a 13th man and often time become distraught and over welmed.  seems Brett became less and less optimistic and more discouraged as he saw the disparity.

Again i have no probem with buzz signing a 6'10 guy that showed some flashes against top flight comp on a few occasiosn.  Additionally i 100% guarantee this was all Brett.  Buzz and co did everything they could to try to get him to give it a go and see waht the year brought.  

I must admit i was pessimistic after he was named second team all conference as a senior after shooting 45% and scoring 13 points a agme in a conference that has never produced a D1 BBall player before.  no real way to be optimistic about that.  

Couldn't agree more.  Well said!!

[esotericmindguy]

After watching the youtube video i chuckle at the fact that some kid from QUAKERtown, PA talks like he's from the north side of Milwaukee.  Comical.

[tower912]

I try to differentiate between smoke and fire for a living.   Right now, we have a single twitter posting about this.   I would like to see it confirmed from a source inside the program before we go any further.   If this is, in my parlance, food left on the stove, and not a real fire, then there are an awful lot of people who are going to have to do a Michael Phelps backstroke.   

[ChicosBailBonds]

I try to differentiate between smoke and fire for a living.   Right now, we have a single twitter posting about this.   I would like to see it confirmed from a source inside the program before we go any further.   If this is, in my parlance, food left on the stove, and not a real fire, then there are an awful lot of people who are going to have to do a Michael Phelps backstroke.   

What does the other board say?

[MU B2002]

http://community.sportsbubbler.com/blogs/iwbs_sports_blog/archive/2009/08/21/brett-roseboro-will-not-be-attending-marquette.aspx

I think it is better than Twitter, but I am not an expert...

[Boone]

IWB confirmed he's gone. That's good enough for me.

[ChicosBailBonds]

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=193&f=2565&t=4635491

[Boone]

That video makes me cringe w/embarrassment for him. Anyway, I wish Vanilla Ice well wherever he ends up.

[jmayer1]

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=193&f=2565&t=4635491

Any we care what they are saying on the Badger board because why?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Any we care what they are saying on the Badger board because why?

Uhm, I was linking to the fact that they were confirming it.  I was banned on Dodds site more than 2 years ago, IP blocked, etc, etc, so I can't get on the MU page.  So I posted the link from the UW page.  Though in reading some of their comments, I can't help but think that there are more than a few people in the state that feel this way about MU now.  But that's the direction we've chosen to go, for better or worse, time will tell.

[Boone]

I think the vast majority of MU fans could give two craps about what anyone else in the state thinks of our program!

[muarmy81]

The MU scout board is only reporting the twitter link.

That being said, when have any of these "rumors" been proven false?  Even the Mbwake rumor was denied BY HIM and look where that ended up.
I assume that Brett is gone.  I hope it's because he was home -sick and realized that maybe he was in over his head.

Whatever the reason, I'm not overly disappointed especially with us being in on that big Canadien from CA but I do wish Brett all the best in whatever he decides and wherever he goes.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I think the vast majority of MU fans could give two craps about what anyone else in the state thinks of our program!

I agree, and I'm split on whether that's a good thing or a bad thing.  It's like watching politicians jam something down their constituents throats even if their constituents don't want it, basically not giving a crap what anyone thinks because they're going to do it anyway.  It's like reading the Kentucky and Memphis message boards...US against the world bunker mentality.

Maybe it's a good thing, I don't know.  If it tarnishes the university's image down the road, I'd say it's not.  If the team wins big, great PR, no issues, then it's a good thing no doubt.  Time will tell.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Uhm, I was linking to the fact that they were confirming it.  I was banned on Dodds site more than 2 years ago, IP blocked, etc, etc, so I can't get on the MU page.  So I posted the link from the UW page.  Though in reading some of their comments, I can't help but think that there are more than a few people in the state that feel this way about MU now.  But that's the direction we've chosen to go, for better or worse, time will tell.

I agree with you, but when I really think about it, MU could have 12 home grown white dudes from small Wisconsin high schools, and some UW fans would still find something to be critical about with MU.

Some people don't like MU, and no matter what MU does, they will find an angle to critique.

Hopefully, all of the guys MU has recruited will graduate and it will be great. However, if that happens, some fans will automatically accuse MU of "helping" their athletes through school.

It's a never ending cycle with politics and sports rivalries.

[Skatastrophy]

I agree, and I'm split on whether that's a good thing or a bad thing.  It's like watching politicians jam something down their constituents throats even if their constituents don't want it, basically not giving a crap what anyone thinks because they're going to do it anyway.  It's like reading the Kentucky and Memphis message boards...US against the world bunker mentality.

Maybe it's a good thing, I don't know.  If it tarnishes the university's image down the road, I'd say it's not.  If the team wins big, great PR, no issues, then it's a good thing no doubt.  Time will tell.

So far these kids have done nothing besides excel at basketball and qualify for university.  It'll be one thing if these kids can't keep up academically, but that's a bridge we can cross when we come to it.

As of right now we have a bunch of great youngsters coming in and a bunch of UW@Madison fans disparaging them for whatever they can think of.  Same crap, different year.

At the end of the year we'll still have a 100% graduation rate and a great group of bright young Student Athletes, and UW will have another L to mull over at the Kohl.

Edit: 2002mualum ninja'd his post in there, so I 2nd his response... but I'm not deleting this crap after I took the time to write it :p

[jmayer1]

Uhm, I was linking to the fact that they were confirming it.  I was banned on Dodds site more than 2 years ago, IP blocked, etc, etc, so I can't get on the MU page.  So I posted the link from the UW page.  Though in reading some of their comments, I can't help but think that there are more than a few people in the state that feel this way about MU now.  But that's the direction we've chosen to go, for better or worse, time will tell.

I guess a ton of people on the other site must be confused then because everybody over there seems to think you're a regular poster.

I could care less what those jokers on the Badgers board think and I wouldn't take their nonsense as an indication of how the people in this state generally feel about MU.

Can you clarify what you mean about the direction we're going?  I think the direction we're going towards is a long, athletic team that will be able to play uptempo and go 9-10 deep.  I like that direction.  I don't think it's fair to comment on the direction we're going in terms of academics of our players until we see how these guys fare in the classroom.  With MU's track record in that regard, I'll take my chances with the guys Buzz is bringing in.

[rugbydrummer]

I try to differentiate between smoke and fire for a living.   Right now, we have a single twitter posting about this.   I would like to see it confirmed from a source inside the program before we go any further.   If this is, in my parlance, food left on the stove, and not a real fire, then there are an awful lot of people who are going to have to do a Michael Phelps backstroke.   

got wind of it this morning from a friend who produces the Greenhouse on 620

[4everwarriors]

Who gave who the warm air? I guess this is why you overfill your schollies.

[Skatastrophy]

I really wonder if something happened.  It doesn't make sense for him to leave so close to school starting.  It doesn't make sense for MU to give him the boot unless we're planning on picking up 2 more players for this year.

What reason would we have to asking him to leave this late in the game, even if he couldn't compete with the other guys on the team?

I'd bet that that either he effed up big time (not basketball related) and Buzz gave him the boot, or he's leaving of his own volition because of personal reasons (homesick, his family died, he knocked up a girl back home, etc).

[wyoMUfan]

lol, i actually cracked up watching that video.
From what I hear, everyone on the team this year thinks they are a comedian...and I can imagine Brett was the butt of many a locker room joke.
From the video it seems like he takes himself way too seriously, this plus the constant ribbing he no doubt was receiving made the decision easier.
(having bob jackson dominate you for a week probably didn't help either)/.

[MR.HAYWARD]

Please people get over it there is absolutely no way in hell Buzz and company asked him to leave.  Even if he was the worst plyer in the history of D1 ball he could help the team in areas apart from playinggame minutes.   additonally there is no reason to beleive in 3-4 years he could not have beeen a servicaebale role player.  A coach does not go from offering a scholarship to sending the player home before the first practice because he all of a sudden had a revelation sight unseen that he stunk.  Now something might have happened that he got in trouble for but there is no way in heck he was sent home for his basketball talents or lack thereof.  zero possiblity.  

As a former colleg athlete i can tell you the summer before your freshman year can be very tough.  i was an all-state player and went from always being the best to being at times dominated by bigger stronger faster more mature players and the prospects of getting your ass kicked for 1-2-3 years before you might even sniff playing time can be down right overwhelming.  It is one hell of a lot tougher mentally to do what a kid like david cubillan or Dwight Burke or Divid Diggs did than what a jerel Mcneal goes through.  

A buddy of mine took his son to college this summer to summer football practice he related the story that after they all dropped there sons off and got them settled there was a coaches and parents meeting.  the coach told the parents to expect 90% of the kids to call home telling them they want to quit.  he said call me and we will get with them.  you are away from home dont really know anyone andit  is sometime s hard to see the forest for the trees when you are 18 lonely sore and getting your ass kicked with no foreseeable playing time for 2-3 years.  

soemtimes actually many times 18 year olds see quitting as the best option.  I would place a wager that 95% of freshman college athletes seriously contemplate quitting or transferring during the freshman year...i dont know the number but probably 20% of them do the other 75% you just never hear about it....the other 5% are named Chris Paul, Dominic james, Derrick Rose, Tim Tebow, etc.

[dsfire]

I could care less what those jokers on the Badgers board think and I wouldn't take their nonsense as an indication of how the people in this state generally feel about MU.

+0.5

I care what others in-state think, and I don't think the Badger board is nuts as a whole, but its hard to do much more than laugh when you come upon a statement such as

Bottom line: on a scale of Dick Bennett/Bo Ryan to John Calipari, Buzz is much closer to Calipari.

[MR.HAYWARD]

i too could give an f waht other schools or people think about our recruits.  

What actually matters is how they handle themselves on and off the court and in the classroom.  With all the crap that you hear about Florida State nad other schools in Fotball or Memphis and other schools in Basketball it is usually tied to what those young men did in the classroom or getting in trouble off the field.  Not once do i recall the topic of them coming to the institution via a non traditional manner an issue.

In fact it is a non issue.  many of these kids have had less than ideal circumstances beyond their control a kid like a DWAde, a jimmy Butler, A LAzar Hayward, etc. make me even more proud to be a MArquette alum.  you want to take a look at the backgrounds of alot of the kids Al brought to school?  if the kid has high character it is not a risk at all.


 Cory MAggette and derrick rose came from traditonal high schools, MAggette from oneof the most prestigious in Chicago ..so what.  judge a man by his character not his upbringning that he typically could not control.