MU gains next 2010 Commit

[VegasWarrior77]

So who was wondering about MU's recruiting going stale?

[AZWarrior]

So who was wondering about MU's recruiting going stale?

I was waiting for that....  Well said!   

[ChicosBailBonds]

Nice get but couldn't he just go down to the corner big man store and get a 5 star big man?

Now doesn't seem an appropriate time for buts. But that's your choice.

I'm happy with the get Da Coach.  I just find it funny how often on this message board people screamed bloody stools that we can't get a highly rated center or big man.  As many of us pointed out, those are the absolute toughest guys to get but some made it out like you just picked them off the shelf like a gallon of milk.

But make no mistake about it, I'm always happy to land good players and even MORE happy to land good players that are academically eligible and have no issues.  Again, nice get (as I stated) on Buzz's part.

[77ncaachamps]

For the recruiting gurus on here:

Any implications for Trae Golden (Jamail's AAU teammate, no?), Flavian Davis, and others?

[Tom Crean's Tanning Bed]

For the recruiting gurus on here:

Any implications for Trae Golden (Jamail's AAU teammate, no?), Flavian Davis, and others?

I think an even bigger finish may now realistically be in play with Jelan Kendrick.  Also an AAU teammate of Jamail.  And just happens to be the #13th overall player on the Scout top 100 (combo SF/PG).  Golden would be a nice get too; would be a great offensive complement in the backcourt.

I'm mixed overall on the idea of oversigning, but I would definitely consider it for a guy like Kendrick.

[tower912]

Chico, I think that has been addressed by the fact that next year we will theoretically have Otule, Mbao, Roseboro, and Clark.   Nobody knows if any are going to be great, but at least they are tall.    Plus, a point guard and 4 6'6" guys on the floor beats 4 guards and one 6'6" guy.     Although the amigos were great, I think it can be generally agreed upon that the lack of a competent big was a significant contributing factor to our lack of post-season success.

[GOMU1104]

For the recruiting gurus on here:

Any implications for Trae Golden (Jamail's AAU teammate, no?), Flavian Davis, and others?

Flavian Davis...I dont think we have been involved with him for a very long time.

I think Golden could be an option.

My top 3 (I know it means SO MUCH  ) are:
Jelan Kendrick - Jones' AAU teammate
Rickey Scott - PG/SG from Texas
Maurice Walker - Talented big man from Canada

[GGGG]

Flavian Davis...I dont think we have been involved with him for a very long time.

Davis isn't a high level D1 prospect.

[Brewtown Andy]

It's encouraging that Buzz is following up his top 20 "anchor" class of 2009 with at least 2 top 100 players in 2010. As Murph has pointed out on multple occasions, even our more successful coaches in the past 30 years have been unable to accomplish this. Kudos to Buzz.

I wonder if Buzz's offensive philosophy lends itself to wanting to play with a deep rotation, which allows him to walk into any living room and say that if a kid's willing to work hard, there will always be minutes available.

[TomW1365]

Yeah ESPN has him rated at 94.  Just for comparison's sake, they didn't rate DJO, Buycks was a 94, and then the next best from this year's class was Cadougan at 92.

Just looking through the rest of rival's top 150 we are on these player's lists (maybe it will change since I believe this is our last scholarship?):
13. Corey Joseph - 5 star PG
15. Terrance Jones - 5 star PF
18. Joe Jackson - 5 star PG
19. Daron Lamb - 5 star SG
27. Tobias Harris - 4 star PF
31. Vander Blue - 4 star SG (from what I hear we're pretty much out of it though)
35. Keala King - 4 star SG
42. Justin Coleman - 4 star SF
50. Dwight Powell - 4 star PF
60. James Johnson - 4 star PF
66. Rickey Scott - 4 star SG
74. Trae Golden - 4 star SG
87. Rod Odom - 4 star SF
(91. Aaron Bowen - 4 star SF)
94. Andre Stringler - 4 star PG
109. Devon Collier - 3 star PF
115. Lavonte Dority - 3 star PG
116. Shane Southwell - 3 star SF
117. Reggie Smith - 3 star PG (only lists 4 other schools)
141. Flavian Davis - 3 star SF

Interesting to see how many players list MU, even if they aren't seriously considering coming here.  All of these players had pretty long lists.  It was also interesting to see that MU and Xavier seemed to be on more lists than any other teams not named UNC (just based on a quick glance over the lists).

Thanks for checking this out.  I was just about to do the same thing on Rivals.com.... You saved me 2 hours of research and now I can get some work done that results in a paycheck!

[Avenue Commons]

MU snares 2010-'11 commit
               

Jamail Jones, a 6-foot-6 1/2-inch, 205-pound forward from Stone Mountain, Ga., has orally committed to join MU's 2010-'11 recruiting class.

Jones is the third player to commit to that class, joining guard Aaron Bowen and forward Monterale Clark. He had narrowed his list of college choices down to MU, Oklahoma, Xavier and Mississippi State before giving the nod to the Golden Eagles in a phone call to assistant coach Aki Collins earlier today.

"He was excited," said Jones of Collins' reaction.
               

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/53354147.html
               

From the JS Online article:"Academically Jones is in great shape, with right around a 3.0 GPA and a 1350 on the SAT."

Wow. That's very impressive for anyone, let alone a guy that can also play Div I hoops.

[MU B2002]

Thanks for checking this out.  I was just about to do the same thing on Rivals.com.... You saved me 2 hours of research and now I can get some work done that results in a paycheck!

You mean you don't get your monthly profit sharing checks from the Scoop?  Better work on that message count...

From the JS Online article:"Academically Jones is in great shape, with right around a 3.0 GPA and a 1350 on the SAT."

Wow. That's very impressive for anyone, let alone a guy that can also play Div I hoops.

What is the new SAT max 2400 right? Not to be a pessimist, just asking.

[rocky_warrior]

Good get.

Also - a little slow on this one but scholarship table updated...
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8

[wyoMUfan]

I like the look of this kid, that would be rad if we got his amigo Golden....just for the last name!

[texaswarrior74]

What is the new SAT max 2400 right? Not to be a pessimist, just asking.

I wondered about the same thing. I kind of doubt they would be bragging about a 1350/2400 and I also don't think that the 1350/2400 would get anyone, including a recruited athlete, into MU so maybe it's based on old scoring 1350/1600.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Chico, I think that has been addressed by the fact that next year we will theoretically have Otule, Mbao, Roseboro, and Clark.   Nobody knows if any are going to be great, but at least they are tall.    Plus, a point guard and 4 6'6" guys on the floor beats 4 guards and one 6'6" guy.     Although the amigos were great, I think it can be generally agreed upon that the lack of a competent big was a significant contributing factor to our lack of post-season success.

Yes, but the claim by some here was the inability get highly rated bigs.  None of those 4 above were that highly rated (that I recall), but they are tall.  

[ChicosBailBonds]

From the JS Online article:"Academically Jones is in great shape, with right around a 3.0 GPA and a 1350 on the SAT."

Wow. That's very impressive for anyone, let alone a guy that can also play Div I hoops.

Let's remember that the ceiling isn't 1600 like it was back in the day when many of us took it.  1350 out of 1600 is a fantastic score.  2400 is now the ceiling.

1350 on today's test is between the 15th and 36th percentile....basically the equivalent of getting between a 810 and 950 on the old test.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAT#Raw_scores.2C_scaled_scores.2C_and_percentiles


Still, he won't have any issues getting in or being cleared which is great news.  It seems the last few years we've gone through this waiting game each year to get kids cleared.  That gets old on many levels.

[Lennys Tap]

Let's remember that the ceiling isn't 1600 like it was back in the day when many of us took it.  1350 out of 1600 is a fantastic score.  2400 is now the ceiling.

1350 on today's test is between the 15th and 36th percentile....basically the equivalent of getting between a 810 and 950 on the old test.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAT#Raw_scores.2C_scaled_scores.2C_and_percentiles


Still, he won't have any issues getting in or being cleared which is great news.  It seems the last few years we've gone through this waiting game each year to get kids cleared.  That gets old on many levels.

Actually 1350 today is 900 on the old scale. 2400 x 2/3 = 1600 and 1350 x 2/3 = 900.

[wyoMUfan]

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/school?schoolId=269&page=briefingroom&season=2010&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fschool%3fschoolId%3d269%26page%3dbriefingroom%26season%3d2010

[GGGG]

Good get.

Also - a little slow on this one but scholarship table updated...
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8

So does this mean that they can just give Frozena a scholarship for this year?

[rocky_warrior]

They could.  Though I thought he was already on an academic?

[dsfire]

My guess would be that the 1350 is out of 2400, just based upon the 3.0 GPA (then again, some students are better at testing than classwork, so who knows).  Still, as Chicos mentioned, that should be plenty for the clearinghouse - which apparently only looks at the Math and Verbal/Critical Reading component of the scores - but this year only requires a 620 combined on those two sections for D1 athletes with a 3.0 GPA.

One interesting sidenote, from reading portions of the NCAA Guide for the College-Bound Student Athlete is that if you take the test more than once, they'll take the best score from each subsection to meet NCAA requirements.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Actually 1350 today is 900 on the old scale. 2400 x 2/3 = 1600 and 1350 x 2/3 = 900.

If I read it correctly, it's not scored exactly the way you state.  That's why I put the range in there and the equivalency table.

[tower912]

Hair-splitting, gents.    Bottom line is that is academics are solid.

[RawdogDX]

I'm somewhat glad it's 1350 out of 2400.  When i first saw 1350 my reaction was, why the hell did he only have a 3.0 gpa.