Pitino Situation Turning Really Ugly

[Sheriff]

Petino went on medical leave for undisclosed urological problem in January, 2004.  The recently reported escapade took place in August 2003.  Any correlation?  Hmmmm....

[77ncaachamps]

Does anyone think the "Italian coaching mafia" (vitale, calipari, et al) are going to come to his aid?

EDIT: on second thought, not calipari

[GGGG]

I highly recommend listening to the Score right now as it is hilarious as they discuss the issue.  One funny topic is that Pitino brings a priest around with him.

Terry Boers is pumped as Pitino is on his Top 10 most hated guys list.

Dammit, dammit, dammit....

Couldn't get the stream today.

[GGGG]

Fair enough...maybe a bad example.

But I'll just return to your original comment ("I'm curious as to what he should be fired for.
As morally reprehensible as his acts may be to many of us, he did nothing illegal here.") and try again to make my point:  you don't have to do something illegal to get fired from your job.  You just have to piss your employer off enough that they decide to fire you.  You're a smart guy, so I'm sure that you know this is true.

He did enough to violate his contract.  Whether or not UL pushes him on it is another matter.

[79Warrior]

He did enough to violate his contract.  Whether or not UL pushes him on it is another matter.

Having sex with another woman violates his contract?? There is lots or room here on this issue. As fas as I am concerned, this is a completely personal matter between him and his family. This has nothing to do with basketball at all.

[GGGG]

Having sex with another woman violates his contract?? There is lots or room here on this issue. As fas as I am concerned, this is a completely personal matter between him and his family. This has nothing to do with basketball at all.

There is a "morality clause" in his contract.  Specifically it states that the following is a violation:

"Disparaging media publicity of a material nature that damages the good name and reputation of Employer or University, if such publicity is cause by Employee's willful misconduct that could be abjectively anticipated to bring Employee into public disrepute or scandal, or which tends to greatly offend the public, or any class thereof on the basis of invidious distinction."

This pretty much covers what Pitino did.

[MARQKC]

Morals are relative, it seems. Larry Eustachy essentially is fired (suspended, followed by resignation) for doing a lot less:

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/06/sports/college-basketball-iowa-state-s-eustachy-steps-down-as-coach.html?scp=5&sq=larry%20eustachy&st=cse

Oh, hey! Check that date! 2003!!!! Must've been a good year for big-time coaches to behave like Bob Huggins' players!

Speaking of whom, regardless of what you think about him, there's another big-time basketball coach who essentially lost his job (at Cincinnati) for personal lousy behavior.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

my only question is this:  has 4never played the role of Slickster's man-sistant while Bruce Pearl was putting Pat Summitt on the bone rollercoaster and showing her his O face?

I'd say yes.

[buckchuckler]

Lots of good stuff here, but I have to give credit to my two favorite comments.

First off we're going to have to make sure that our Coaches keep their wives far away from any Restaurant that Pitino is dining in.

Secondly, if any student needs an abortion they should ask Pitino for a little cash.

Third, not only will Louisville players not graduate but they're being taught life-lessons by a rapist.


and

Was Red Snapper on the menu that day?

Great stuff guys.

[Mayor McCheese]

Pakuni is wrong again. Pitino very well may have done something illegal!

http://www.sodomy.org/laws/kentucky/

We'll have to wait to see the surveillance tape to see.

Are we saying that Pitino dabbles in Kalua Mudslides from time to time?

[PE8983]

How could they kick the cheerleader out of school for her decision, but let Pitino stay?  Quite the double standard...

[warthog-driver]

Are we saying that Pitino dabbles in Kalua Mudslides from time to time?

Given the fact that Pitino wasn't shooting blanks that evening I would submit he gave the woman's Winking Brown Eyed Ogre a miss. This is not to say, however, that smoked oysters were not on the menu.

[lurch91]

Having sex with another woman violates his contract??  

Didn't MU have a coach that did exactly that not to long ago?

And seems the story has changed.  The money was for health insurance, according to the official police statement (for whatever that's worth).  Again, I'd be interested if this women could produce ANY kind of pre-natal doctor's appointment.

How could they kick the cheerleader out of school for her decision, but let Pitino stay?

I must have missed it, but what cheerleader?

[warthog-driver]

I must have missed it, but what cheerleader?
[/quote]

Wasn't the "Cheerleader Incident" Larry Brown at KU?

[PE8983]

The "health insurance" quote was just recently from the lawyer.  Pitino's comment in the police report a while ago was for an "abortion".  

The Louisville cheerleader posed nude in a magazine, then was booted off the squad and out of school.

[Mayor McCheese]

Didn't MU have a coach that did exactly that not to long ago?

And seems the story has changed.  The money was for health insurance, according to the official police statement (for whatever that's worth).  Again, I'd be interested if this women could produce ANY kind of pre-natal doctor's appointment.

I must have missed it, but what cheerleader?

"Health Insurance" is a lawyer term for abortion.  No one should be fooled by that term. 

[GGGG]

The "health insurance" quote was just recently from the lawyer.  Pitino's comment in the police report a while ago was for an "abortion".  

The Louisville cheerleader posed nude in a magazine, then was booted off the squad and out of school.

The Louisville cheerleader is Becca Manns.  She didn't pose in a magazine, but for her boyfriend who published the pics online when they broke up.  She was (understandably) kicked off the squad.  I have no idea why she would have been dismissed from school though.

[lurch91]

The statement came after Pitino's lawyer disputed part of the Courier-Journal report.

Citing police records, the newpaper reported that Pitino had sex with Cunagin Sypher in a restaurant after closing time and that two weeks later she called to tell him she was pregnant. Pitino then gave Cunagin Sypher $3,000 after she said she needed an abortion and didn't have health insurance, according to a summary of Pitino's July 12 statement to police. The coach's attorney, Steve Pence, said Wednesday that the money was to help her get medical coverage, not specifically to pay for an abortion.

"The way this has been reported in the media is not accurate," Pence told The Associated Press. "The coach has not done anything illegal."

Louisville Metro Police public information officer Dwight Mitchell told ESPN's Kelly Naqi earlier Wednesday that the sergeant who questioned Pitino understood that Pitino was talking about health insurance, not an abortion. After that was established, Sgt. Andy Abbott left that line of questioning because it had nothing to do with the criminal allegation of rape.

"It was Sgt. Abbott's understanding that the money [Pitino gave Cunagin Sypher] was for health insurance."


Cover-up or not, the Police were willing to change their offical reports. 

[79Warrior]

There is a "morality clause" in his contract.  Specifically it states that the following is a violation:

"Disparaging media publicity of a material nature that damages the good name and reputation of Employer or University, if such publicity is cause by Employee's willful misconduct that could be abjectively anticipated to bring Employee into public disrepute or scandal, or which tends to greatly offend the public, or any class thereof on the basis of invidious distinction."

This pretty much covers what Pitino did.

If you start firing all the men who have had affairs the unemployment rate in this country would soar!  Again, its a personal issue he has to deal with. Basketball was not involved at all. There are so many hypocrites out there is is mind boggling.

[Skatastrophy]

If you start firing all the men who have had affairs the unemployment rate in this country would soar!  Again, its a personal issue he has to deal with. Basketball was not involved at all. There are so many hypocrites out there is is mind boggling.

You're missing the point.  It isn't because he had an affair.  It's because he's a public figure and representative of his university.  All public figures from basketball coaches to radio hosts have some sort of morality clause in their contracts.  They are held to this higher standard because they are the public face of their organization.

A professor at louisville could have done the same thing and it would be no biggie.  A head coach?  That reflects poorly on the university as evidenced by the amount of bad press that L'ville has been receiving nationally.

[PE8983]

"health insurance" - that's funny.

If she went to get an abortion with newly purchased "health insurance", wouldn't she be denied coverage due to it being a pre-existing condition.

[BrewCity83]

I don't think you can even buy individual health insurance that will cover the costs of a pregnancy once you are already pregnant.  Certainly not for $3000.

[PE8983]

"If you start firing all the men who have had affairs the unemployment rate in this country would soar!  Again, its a personal issue he has to deal with. Basketball was not involved at all. There are so many hypocrites out there is is mind boggling."

What's hypocritical about it?  He is paid a ridiculous amount of money, is the most public figure of the University of Louisville (which is supposed to stand for the education of our youth), signed the contract, and the knowingly violated it.  There's a reason why these clauses are in the contracts of high profile individuals.  All other individuals across the country (not in the limelight) don't have these clauses in their work employment conditions for that reason.

[MR.HAYWARD]

Pitino has eaten more red carpet than an Irish lesbian.

[GGGG]

If you start firing all the men who have had affairs the unemployment rate in this country would soar!  Again, its a personal issue he has to deal with. Basketball was not involved at all. There are so many hypocrites out there is is mind boggling.

You can state this all you want but...

IT. IS. IN. THE. CONTRACT. THAT. HE. SIGNED.