Mr. Barro

[creanh8r]

While having a beer at the Nomad I saw Ousman walking down Brady and into Jimmy Johns. I yelled Ousman and he politely gave a wave and flashed his big smile. Is he hanging out at Marquette still? Does he have anything to do with the program?

[YoungMUFan4]

he's working at the bball camp

[MilWarrior]

Saw him and Chris Grimm at Bootlegger's on Thursday.

[Tom Crean's Tanning Bed]

Should have invited him over for a beer 

Anyways, one of my favorite MU hoops memories was the night of the win at Wisconsin in 2007; I had gone with a friend to Madison for the game, so we decided to stop off at Caffrey's on campus for a drink about 10ish with a couple friends of ours still in school.  Anyways, about 10:30 or so, Barro walks in solo to meet some friends.  As everyone noticed him at the door, everyone in the bar (about 75 or so people) puts their drinks down and stands up to applaud him.  In typical Ousmane fashion, he gets this sheepish almost embarassed look on his face, waves, shakes a few hands, and goes off to meet his friends. 

Hopefully he'll be at the BBQ on Wednesday night; Ousmane is definitely one of my all time favorite people in the program for sure.

[Goatherder]

Glad to hear he is still around, though I recall that hearing his visa expired when he graduated, and he had to leave the country.  How is it that he is back?  I do not think there is a visa exception for guys who coach at basketball camps. 

[muarmy81]

Glad to hear he is still around, though I recall that hearing his visa expired when he graduated, and he had to leave the country.  How is it that he is back?  I do not think there is a visa exception for guys who coach at basketball camps.  

If he's doing "work" related to his future career he can have his F1 student VISA extended through an OPT which I believe is good for 12 months with the option to extend for another 18 months.

[MU B2002]

If he's doing "work" related to his future career he can have his F1 student VISA extended through an OPT which I believe is good for 18 months.

Dropping some knowledge... Don't happen to work in HR do you?!   

[bma725]

He was in Indiana last week working one of Crean's camps.  Maybe he's back on campus this week to meet Yous Mbao.

[BrewCity83]

Barro, Grimm, the Jacksons (Marcus and Robert) and Novak all were at the MU BBall camp last week.

[bma725]

Barro, Grimm, the Jacksons (Marcus and Robert) and Novak all were at the MU BBall camp last week.

Brain freeze, I meant the 13th-14th.  Barro and Doc Rivers were at the Indiana Elite camp that weekend.

[LON]

Brain freeze, I meant the 13th-14th.  Barro and Doc Rivers were at the Indiana Elite camp that weekend.

Does Doc do MU camps as well?

[bma725]

Does Doc do MU camps as well?

Not that I'm aware of.  I think the IU thing had more to do with the fact that his son is a student there than anything else.

[Warriors4ever]

Has he ever done an MU camp?  I have to admit it annoys me somewhat as he is a member of our Board of Trustees, yet during the events last April and now with the camp, it seems he puts TC ahead of MU.  Maybe I'm being overly-sensitive, but that's how it feels to me.

[Ahoya06]

As bma alluded to before, I think that has a lot to do with his son being at II, II as well, therefore he's putting his son ahead of MU, which is fine by me.

He did cut that commercial with Buzz last season.

[GGGG]

Has he ever done an MU camp?  I have to admit it annoys me somewhat as he is a member of our Board of Trustees, yet during the events last April and now with the camp, it seems he puts TC ahead of MU.  Maybe I'm being overly-sensitive, but that's how it feels to me.

I think you have very little knowledge of what Doc's priorities are.

[Warriors4ever]

I didn't say I did.  That's why I asked the question.  I never heard about the commercial with Buzz.  Last years deal where it seemed like he knew about the possible move and didn't say anything raised my eyebrows at the time, was followed by the quick transfer of his son, followed now by b-ball camp.  If others have better info and are comfortable with it, I'm happy to take their word for it.   Frankly, part of my annoyance is that everytime an MU person shows up at a TC thing at II, II,  some of the Indiana posters get all gleeful about it and try to appropriate that person, and sometimes it starts to bug me. 
Hope all is well with Barro, he was always one of my favorites.

[Skatastrophy]

Doc and Crean did not get along while Crean was at MU.  Part of the reason that quite a few people were happy when Crean left is that Doc (and other alumni that disliked Crean) started participating in the program again.

Doc's dislike for Crean, from my recollection, started with the fiasco surrounding Doc's jersey being retired but not his number.

I was really surprised to see Doc participating in anything that Crean is involved in.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Doc and Crean did not get along while Crean was at MU.  Part of the reason that quite a few people were happy when Crean left is that Doc (and other alumni that disliked Crean) started participating in the program again.

Doc's dislike for Crean, from my recollection, started with the fiasco surrounding Doc's jersey being retired but not his number.

I was really surprised to see Doc participating in anything that Crean is involved in.

Did you completely make that up? #31 had already retired for Bo Ellis and, frankly, Rivers shouldn't have been honored at all. I honestly believe that was orchestrated as a recruiting ploy.

Rivers has done nothing but sing Crean's praises for years, revealing a total lack of character judgement on his part.

By the way, Rivers damn sure doesn't belong on our Board of Trustees.

[Skatastrophy]

Did you completely make that up? #31 had already retired for Bo Ellis and, frankly, Rivers shouldn't have been honored at all. I honestly believe that was orchestrated as a recruiting ploy.

Rivers has done nothing but sing Crean's praises for years, revealing a total lack of character judgement on his part.

By the way, Rivers damn sure doesn't belong on our Board of Trustees.

Na, I must be mis-remembering the players.

Here's what I remember for sure, someone fill in the character names:
A player starting for Crean's MU team was wearing a certain number.  One of our distinguished alumni got pissed because that number was the number that was retired for him.  Crean claimed that it wasn't the number that was retired, but the jersey.  That alumni got (understandably) pissed.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Did you completely make that up? #31 had already retired for Bo Ellis and, frankly, Rivers shouldn't have been honored at all. I honestly believe that was orchestrated as a recruiting ploy.

Rivers has done nothing but sing Crean's praises for years, revealing a total lack of character judgement on his part.

By the way, Rivers damn sure doesn't belong on our Board of Trustees.

I agree completely. Dwyane Wade, Diener, and the entire Novak family also lack judgment as they have been complimentary to Crean as well.

Dude, you're getting a little extreme again.

[MUfan12]

You're thinking of George Thompson. Lazar wore #24 for a few games as a frosh.

George is back in the fold, which is wonderful to see. He really struck up quite a friendship with Dom, Wes, and Jerel last year.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

I agree completely. Dwyane Wade, Diener, and the entire Novak family also lack judgment as they have been complimentary to Crean as well.

Dude, you're getting a little extreme again.

You're right. Kids a few years out of college traditionally have tremendous insight into the character of their elders.

I'd be surprised if the Novaks, who I don't recall ever being quoted anywhere about anything, didn't realize that Crean is a world class jerk. 

[Nukem2]

You're right. Kids a few years out of college traditionally have tremendous insight into the character of their elders.

I'd be surprised if the Novaks, who I don't recall ever being quoted anywhere about anything, didn't realize that Crean is a world class jerk. 

PRN, TC may not win any charm school scholarships; but, lets leave your venom off the board for a while.  Its getting awfully old.

[ChicosBailBonds]

You're right. Kids a few years out of college traditionally have tremendous insight into the character of their elders.

I disagree completely with that comment.  How many times as kids or college students did we hate some of our elders and only 10 or 20 years later we finally "got it" and realized what they were trying to accomplish and teach to us.  How many times as teenagers were we in pissing matches with our parents only to now realize decades later they were 100% right but we were too ignorant to understand it at the time?

With age and maturity, people often have the light bulb go on. 

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

You're right. Kids a few years out of college traditionally have tremendous insight into the character of their elders.

I'd be surprised if the Novaks, who I don't recall ever being quoted anywhere about anything, didn't realize that Crean is a world class jerk.  

Well, I don't know the Novak's personally, but I did meet them at the game up in MN. They were very complimentary towards the coach back then.

Now, things could have changed... but that's not the point.

The point is this:

You claim that college basketball players who spend a TON of time with TC don't have the ability to judge his true character... but you have the ability to see that he is a truly terrible person from watching him on TV and reading about him?

Is this an accurate statement?


(and please don't give me some BS about how "I didn't know Hilter, but I know he's a bad guy"... that's just going to extremes to avoid answering the direct question asked above).