Another Player Departure

[MULS1999]

I debated whether to post this and I may take some criticism for it, but I have it from an excellent source that the announcement of (at least) one more player departure from the MU men's hoops program is imminent. 

Out of respect for the player(s) -- as well as the (remote) chance that something changes -- I am not going reveal who the player(s) is/are.  That said, the decision has apparently been made, Buzz has been informed (and, incidentally, is back on the recruiting trail for '09 players) and the annoucement could be made at any time. 

I'm posting this for three reasons:  (1) to share the information; (2) to express concern over yet another departure and the likely unbalance that would result from having 6 (or 7!) freshmen on next year's team; and (3) to add some veracity to various reports that we are not yet done for next year.

I scanned other topics briefly and didn't see anything on this -- and I apologize if it has been covered.

Anyway, take it for what it's worth.

And ... Go Marquette.

[State]

Confirmed.

[79Warrior]

I thought only Crean lost players?

[muhoops1]

out of respect....don't say any names.  How about initials or perhaps a word that rhymes with that persons last name?  I am totally out of the loop and would like to know who is out/or leaving.

[Daniel]

I'd hate to see more turnover.  We need some stability at this time - wow.

[nathanziarek]

Interesting. I assume we'll know soon enough.

Still, between the loss of recruits from the coaching change and the graduating class of four starting seniors, we knew we were thin on experience. So long as its not Lazar leaving, we're not losing much in the way of "minutes" experience, although there's no player I'd like to see gone. Even if not contributing much in games, seems like a solid group of guys.

[MU06CU10]

Is it an under or upper class player?

With these the thing I always want to know is whether the player wants a better suited opportunity or if the coach wants a better player. If this is the former, I have no problems with the departure whatsoever. If it's the latter, I'm going to be very, very disappointed.

[rocky_warrior]

So long as its not Lazar leaving, we're not losing much in the way of "minutes" experience, although there's no player I'd like to see gone.

Agreed - but who knows the reasoning.  From my count (ok, actually the scholarship table), we only have 6 returning - Lazar, Acker, Cubillan, Fulce, Butler, and Otule.

Hard to see Lazar, Acker, or Cubillan leaving unless they have enough credits to graduate.  If so, they'd have to sit out a year for only a year more of playing at another school.

Butler or Fulce leaving would be surprising, unless Fulce doesn't think he can play anymore.  Though the interview a couple days ago didn't indicate he intended to give up playing.

That leave Otule. Who I guess would surprise me the least.  I guess we just wait for a Rosiak blog or MU PR to find out...unless someone wants to spill the beans here.

[esotericmindguy]

Got to be Otule, he couldn't get minutes when MU had no other bigs....

[Daniel]

I hope it's not one of the incoming kids.... is that possible?  Oh I hate this stuff.....

[Ari Gold]

Agreed - but who knows the reasoning.  From my count (ok, actually the scholarship table), we only have 6 returning - Lazar, Acker, Cubillan, Fulce, Butler, and Otule.

Hard to see Lazar, Acker, or Cubillan leaving unless they have enough credits to graduate.  If so, they'd have to sit out a year for only a year more of playing at another school.

Wouldn't they have walked last week then?

I stand by what I said during the Liam speculation
Cubby to Venezuella (if his shoulders are ok) or Acker leaving to be part of Jerel's crew

[VegasWarrior77]

With seven newcomers next year I would be more shocked if we DIDN'T have someone leaving.

[pillardean]

With seven newcomers next year I would be more shocked if we DIDN'T have someone leaving.

+1

With the incoming class and a new coach, this is the year of the turnover.
Last year it was still the three amigos team, this year it is Buzz's team with his guys that he is building for the future.  It's unfortunate, but some of the old guard (the upper classmen) may not have a place on this team at all despite possibly being worthy of PT.

[Tom Crean's Tanning Bed]

I hope it's not one of the incoming kids.... is that possible?  Oh I hate this stuff.....

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility.  There were some rumblings during the Mbao commitment that Roseboro was possibly considering prep school. 

We shall see, though, if this all ends up being correct.

[GB Warrior]

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility.  There were some rumblings during the Mbao commitment that Roseboro was possibly considering prep school. 

We shall see, though, if this all ends up being correct.

I don't recall hearing anything about Roseboro's considerations. Was he miffed that we were scouting out another big, or did those rumors just come about at the same time? Because if it's the former, the skill sets of both players are very different and could easily coexist on the same court...

I would hate to lose an incoming player, though. Talk to me a few weeks ago, and I would have told you Fulce. But as someone else mentioned above, Rosiak's article made his case sound a little more optimistic.

We'll see soon enough if someone is indeed departing.

[77ncaachamps]

I appreciate Rocky "narrowing" the list down.

I'm on the edge of my seat for this one...

Nevertheless, MORE TIME for the young ones! Get them seasoned already!!! 

[GGGG]

The is very disappointing, not just because a player is leaving, but because it is happening so late.  My guess is that by now, the incoming freshmen and potential JUCOs for 2009-10 are pretty well picked over.  Would we be better off to bank the scholarship for 2010-11?

If it were Acker or Cubes, that would be my course of action.  If it were Otule, I would think that we would almost have to pick up someone with some size otherwise we are right back where we were this year with no serviceable big man...at least one with experience.

[Skatastrophy]

...or Acker leaving to be part of Jerel's crew

That would be horrible.  We need a PG that has played Big East minutes.  Without Acker the first half of next year will be rough

[Marq]

I worked at the Al on Saturday for the AAU tournament, and saw for sure O'Tule and Fulce leaving between 8-9 in the morning. Later I believe I saw Butler leaving the Al, but I am not 100% positive that it was him.

[GB Warrior]

The is very disappointing, not just because a player is leaving, but because it is happening so late.  My guess is that by now, the incoming freshmen and potential JUCOs for 2009-10 are pretty well picked over.  Would we be better off to bank the scholarship for 2010-11?

If it were Acker or Cubes, that would be my course of action.  If it were Otule, I would think that we would almost have to pick up someone with some size otherwise we are right back where we were this year with no serviceable big man...at least one with experience.

I would think that's what would be best. Hell, throw Rob on the bench for another year. But don't burn that scholarship on someone just to use it.

[IAmMarquette]

The is very disappointing, not just because a player is leaving, but because it is happening so late.  My guess is that by now, the incoming freshmen and potential JUCOs for 2009-10 are pretty well picked over.  Would we be better off to bank the scholarship for 2010-11?

If it were Acker or Cubes, that would be my course of action.  If it were Otule, I would think that we would almost have to pick up someone with some size otherwise we are right back where we were this year with no serviceable big man...at least one with experience.

Since we're currently over the limit, I don't think we'd have a scholly to bank. (Yes, I know about the scholarship table on the wiki)

[jmayer1]

Since we're currently over the limit, I don't think we'd have a scholly to bank. (Yes, I know about the scholarship table on the wiki)

You might want to check the scholarship table again, MU is not over the limit after the departures of Liam and Pat.

[IAmMarquette]

You might want to check the scholarship table again, MU is not over the limit after the departures of Liam and Pat.

[Lumbergh]

Gonna have to go ahead and, ah, disagree with you there: http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8

[/Lumbergh]


EDIT: Whoops. You're right. Not over the limit, but at the limit. Still, don't have to worry about banking anything.

EDIT: wow. I get it...with another departure, we'd be one under the limit. Comprehension FAIL.

[BrewCity83]

We'll be worrying about banking to replace whoever is gonna leave's scholly.

[Golden Avalanche]

If true, you bank the scholly for next season. That way, you can add Blue and a legit 5 man.

Better yet, with two open spots, Buzz can show just how good of a recruiter he is and make a strong run for Kyrie Irving and Tobias Harris. Those two will haunt us on the other side.