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Does Gillispie Now Sit...

Started by 4everwarriors, March 27, 2009, 06:31:46 AM

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Blackhat

Fellas, Billy Gillispie is above an MU assistant position.  It's not a matter of if we should take him.  He's accomplished more than our sitting coach and is an architect of two rebuilding projects, he'll probably swap spots with Travis Ford if he wants to coach next year.

wardle2wade

#26
For the sake of argument, I'm deleting what you can find all over the internet...

Can I say that?

BrewCity83

No.  Teal is like a teflon shield.
The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

Litehouse

If BG doesn't take a head gig or decides to take a year off, I could see him working as a consultant and stopping by some MU practices to help the team work on some things.  But I don't see him taking a full fledged assistant job.

Or maybe ESPN can hire him to work the broadcast team with Erin Andrews, they seem to have good chemistry.

MU gimp ONE

Quote from: MU_B2002 on March 27, 2009, 10:22:06 AM

That was more interesting when...
1. Manny said it.
2. PRN said it.

I didn't even know you had left, but I am glad you enjoyed your vacation.  ;)

i thought of randy quaid when he said it also... who cares about manny and people actually read PRN's posts... hmm learn something new everyday
"You know, most people would kill... to be treated like a god, just for a few moments." - Coach Norman Dale

lurch91

Let's be honest.  If Deane and Dukiet could find head coaching gigs after getting the boot at Marquette, Gillispie won't have any problem getting offers, it's just whether or not those offers will be from schools he'd evern consider.

But with a seven figure buy-out, my money is on him taking a year off as a "consultant" rather than taking the HC job at a clear sub mid-major program.

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: Litehouse on March 27, 2009, 11:27:32 AM

Or maybe ESPN can hire him to work the broadcast team with Erin Andrews, they seem to have good chemistry.

I believe it was actually Jeannine Edwards who shot down Billy's advances and was then treated rather rudely by him during an interview.

mikeDEANmeminger

Quote from: lurch91 on March 27, 2009, 12:01:15 PM
But with a seven figure buy-out, my money is on him taking a year off as a "consultant" rather than taking the HC job at a clear sub mid-major program.

What makes you think he would have to take a "Mid Major" job. The guy didn't coach Western Kentucky or Indiana State to sub .500 records. The guy is the head coach at KENTUCKY. He turned Texas A&M program around, he has been a finalist for the Naismith National Coach of the Year Award 3 times, he has been the Big 12 coach of the year twice and the SEC coach of the year once. He went 6-24 in his first year at UTEP and then his second year he turned them into a 24 win NCAA tourney team. Since then he has only had 1 team win less than 20 games, when he won 18 in his first year at Kentucky. AND SOME OF YOU THINK HE IS GOING TO TAKE AN ASSISTANT JOB OR THE BEST OFFER HE IS GOING TO GET IS FROM A MID FREAKING MAJOR?!?!?!?!

get a clue. if he wasn't at Kentucky, they guy keeps his job and is still seen as one of the better coaches in the country.

Tribby

I don't know jack about Billy Gillespie's alcohol intake... but there's some seriously libelous stuff in this thread. I'm no lawyer, but I think it would be wise for the mods to lock and delete this thread post haste. Libel isn't something to mess with, particularly when you're talking about a guy with lots of money sitting in the bank and nothing to do for the next year...

lurch91

Quote from: mikeDEANmeminger on March 27, 2009, 12:46:35 PM
AND SOME OF YOU THINK HE IS GOING TO TAKE AN ASSISTANT JOB OR THE BEST OFFER HE IS GOING TO GET IS FROM A MID FREAKING MAJOR?!?!?!?!

get a clue. if he wasn't at Kentucky, they guy keeps his job and is still seen as one of the better coaches in the country.

Dude, if you read my post I was saying Gillispie leaving Kentucky wasn't like Deane or Dukiet leaving MU, eventhough they were both able to land HC jobs the next season oafter MU dumping them.  Gillispie will land a HC job, IF HE wants it.  If Miller leaves Xavier in the Donimo effect, then I could see Xavier offering Gillispie, but would Gillispie feel above the Xavier job?

Personnally, I think he lands at Missouri if that position becomes "available".

chapman

Quote from: Tribby on March 27, 2009, 12:52:10 PM
I don't know jack about Billy Gillespie's alcohol intake... but there's some seriously libelous stuff in this thread. I'm no lawyer, but I think it would be wise for the mods to lock and delete this thread post haste. Libel isn't something to mess with, particularly when you're talking about a guy with lots of money sitting in the bank and nothing to do for the next year...

There is nothing that could get anyone sued for libel here.

Lighthouse 84

Quote from: Tribby on March 27, 2009, 12:52:10 PM
I don't know jack about Billy Gillespie's alcohol intake... but there's some seriously libelous stuff in this thread. I'm no lawyer, but I think it would be wise for the mods to lock and delete this thread post haste. Libel isn't something to mess with, particularly when you're talking about a guy with lots of money sitting in the bank and nothing to do for the next year...

Truth, opinion and the fact that BG is a public figure (actual malice required) are pretty good defenses to libel Tribby.....and I am a lawyer, though I haven't played one on TV...
HILLTOP SENIOR SURVEY from 1984 Yearbook: 
Favorite Drinking Establishment:

1. The Avalanche.              7. Major Goolsby's.
2. The Gym.                      8. Park Avenue.
3. The Ardmore.                 9. Mugrack.
4. O'Donohues.                 10. Lighthouse.
5. O'Pagets.
6. Hagerty's.

Tribby

Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on March 27, 2009, 01:00:24 PM
Truth, opinion and the fact that BG is a public figure (actual malice required) are pretty good defenses to libel Tribby.....and I am a lawyer, though I haven't played one on TV...
Whatever, it's not my ass.

Bob "Big Daddy" Wild

Quote from: Tribby on March 27, 2009, 12:52:10 PM
I don't know jack about Billy Gillespie's alcohol intake... but there's some seriously libelous stuff in this thread. I'm no lawyer, but...

"Excuse me, can I just stop you right there?

Oh, I don't have anything to say... I just wanted to stop you there"
Former president.  Part-time MUScooper.

wardle2wade

If any of this is libel, Rupp arena will lose half their season ticket holders... check out UK's message boards with 12000 fans who are on at any given time.  Their BG claims borderline to the point of aburdity, and they sure have malice.  That being said, I don't think any of this is libelous. 

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, but did stay at a Hampton Inn in Boise this week.

CAINMUTINY

This isn't about a right to privacy.......this is about attacking someones character. Yes he is a public figure; and no that doesn't make it alright to go around making statements with third party information.  If you publicly make a comment that intentionally damages their character then the the said comments are to be considered libelous.......which if you are alleging in a public domain that based upon unconfirmed sources that BG is an alcoholic damn skippy its effing libelous!!

Avenue Commons

Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 27, 2009, 10:09:26 AM
Again, I have no personal knowledge, so I'm not denying anything.  But there are rumors (and now some second hand -- at best-- accounts) that Billy likes to party.  In my mind (your mileage may vary) this is far from proof of the underlying statement that I was responding to: "Billy is an alcoholic."

It's more than local gossip, there were published news reports that the Kentucky establishment did not like Gillespie's "single life." I agree that calling the guy an "alcoholic" is a bit of a stretch. One recent Marquette coach had similar "issues" with alcohol and going out to the campus bars to the point where the University had to intervene.
We Are Marquette

chapman

Quote from: CAINMUTINY on March 27, 2009, 01:46:58 PM
This isn't about a right to privacy.......this is about attacking someones character. Yes he is a public figure; and no that doesn't make it alright to go around making statements with third party information.  If you publicly make a comment that intentionally damages their character then the the said comments are to be considered libelous.......which if you are alleging in a public domain that based upon unconfirmed sources that BG is an alcoholic damn skippy its effing libelous!!

Nope.

LON

Quote from: CAINMUTINY on March 27, 2009, 01:46:58 PM
This isn't about a right to privacy.......this is about attacking someones character. Yes he is a public figure; and no that doesn't make it alright to go around making statements with third party information.  If you publicly make a comment that intentionally damages their character then the the said comments are to be considered libelous.......which if you are alleging in a public domain that based upon unconfirmed sources that BG is an alcoholic damn skippy its effing libelous!!

File that in an affidavit and see what happens

PuertoRicanNightmare

Quote from: CAINMUTINY on March 27, 2009, 01:46:58 PM
This isn't about a right to privacy.......this is about attacking someones character. Yes he is a public figure; and no that doesn't make it alright to go around making statements with third party information.  If you publicly make a comment that intentionally damages their character then the the said comments are to be considered libelous.......which if you are alleging in a public domain that based upon unconfirmed sources that BG is an alcoholic damn skippy its effing libelous!!

The only people that care that you're a lawyer or a law student are you and your mother. It lost its cache when Raymond Burr died.



Tribby

Quote from: LancesOtherNut on March 27, 2009, 02:52:50 PM
File that in an affidavit and see what happens
Whether it would stand up in a court of law, you're probably right, it wouldn't. That said, it's pretty clearly an ad hominem attack (and a very poorly factually supported one at that)... things don't have to be illegal for them to be wrong. Let's just leave the unsubstantiated character attacks to the classy folks of Lexington, shall we?

MU gimp ONE

Quote from: Tribby on March 27, 2009, 03:14:21 PM
Whether it would stand up in a court of law, you're probably right, it wouldn't. That said, it's pretty clearly an ad hominem attack (and a very poorly factually supported one at that)... things don't have to be illegal for them to be wrong. Let's just leave the unsubstantiated character attacks to the classy folks of Lexington, shall we?

i heard Tribby was making advances towards marquette cheerleaders and getting drunk in campus bars...

see, you can substitute anyones name in there and the statement holds the same meaning... which is zero.
"You know, most people would kill... to be treated like a god, just for a few moments." - Coach Norman Dale

Tribby

Quote from: MU gimp ONE on March 27, 2009, 03:20:33 PM
i heard Tribby was making advances towards marquette cheerleaders and getting drunk in campus bars...

see, you can substitute anyones name in there and the statement holds the same meaning... which is zero.
Apples to oranges.

Substitute Father Wild's name. And then assert it to strangers as accepted fact, not as hypothetical argument. Then we'll see if it holds any meaning.

BrewCity83

But if you say it in teal, you are golden.
The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

wardle2wade

Quote from: CAINMUTINY on March 27, 2009, 01:46:58 PM
This isn't about a right to privacy.......this is about attacking someones character. Yes he is a public figure; and no that doesn't make it alright to go around making statements with third party information.  If you publicly make a comment that intentionally damages their character then the the said comments are to be considered libelous.......which if you are alleging in a public domain that based upon unconfirmed sources that BG is an alcoholic damn skippy its effing libelous!!

I think you were referring to another poster (I never said the word alcoholic or anything close), but I have to disagree anyways.  I wrote that I think BG enjoys spirits.  I think the Pope likes church.  I think Joan Rivers likes talking.  I think Mike Tyson likes jail.  etc etc etc

Now if an AstroVan pulls up to my place with the Pope, Joan Rivers, and Mike Tyson in it, I may take it back and agree it's libelous... mostly because I'm afraid that Mike Tyson will bite my ear off.  (Is that libelous too?)

Otherwise, they are opinions based off public info, like BG's DUI and published reports that he has a driver.  With that info on record, I don't know if anything discussed here would be considered unjust to BG.  Naturally, being unjust is a stipulation for libel.

Btw - Having a driver is an intelligent idea, not a knock on him. I scratch my head every time I read about a famous person with a DUI.

Apologies for helping hijack this thread.