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jaygall31

It's not about ME,
It's about US.

erictroche

Bad shots+bad D+laziness= Jerel McNeal.  Terrible  >:(


MUhoops12

McNeal should never handle the ball with 30 sec again. I would rather give it to Jimmy or Mo. wow

erictroche

4-16, 4 fouls, and 4 T.O.  Guess who? You're Marquette all-time scorer.

downtown85

What about the T on Buzz?  What about the soft D just before the halftime when reynolds or fisher took it singlehandedly the length of the floor for a layup.  Neither are McNeals fault.  But yes, he did have his head up his azz on a lot of plays today.

AlumKCof93

Jerel McNeal = most frustrating MU player ever!!!

He's a good player, but oftentimes selfish.  He played today like he was the only worthy player on the court in the first half.  It cost us dearly.  In the 2nd half, we make a huge comeback based on the contributions from everyone, including McNeal who finally decides to pass to guys who have open looks.  Then with a minute left, McNeal goes back to believing he's Jordan and just watches the clock run down and shoots a terrible 3.  I believe he was fouled on his final attempt - but it was him against 3 defenders cuz everyone knows he's going to shoot.  To them forget to play defense - inexcusable. That is not senior leadership!!!!
"Yes, Dinnertime!  The perfect break between work and drunk" - Homer J. Simpson

MU111

Okay, seriously?  Yeah, he blew it on that last play but horrible team FG percentage in the first half cost us the game, amongst other things.

#MUBB

youre kidding me right?  the kid busts his balls all day and leads the team and you blame the loss on him?!
should have defended better on the last play but give me a break he did not cost us the game

MUfan12

He's Brett Favre in sneakers.

Makes jaw-dropping plays... both outstanding and idiotic.

I'll still take my chances with him though.

lab_warrior

I'd throw in Wes, he was beyond awful, should have worn a blindfold shooting the ball. 
Again, doesn't bother to show up for a big game. 

Big Papi

Quote from: AlumKCof93 on March 12, 2009, 03:59:58 PM
Jerel McNeal = most frustrating MU player ever!!!

He's a good player, but oftentimes selfish.  He played today like he was the only worthy player on the court in the first half.  

I have to disagree with you a little bit here.  Once Acker went to the bench with the second foul, McNeal was forced into being the primary ball handler running the offense in the first half.  That is not his game but it is not his fault.  Cooby didn't want anything to do with the ball.  DJ out and no other point guard on the team.  

Same at the end of the game.  Buzz put him in a position that is not suited for him.  If DJ is healthy, he has the ball with 40 seconds left.

AlumKCof93

That's the thing - the whole team busted their asses to get back into it, not just McNeal.  He puts it all on himself and it costs us.  How does a senior with 4 yrs experience forget to guard his guy with less than 3 secs left.  Its inexcusable!!!

"Yes, Dinnertime!  The perfect break between work and drunk" - Homer J. Simpson

AlumKCof93

MUfanatic - you may be right.  Its just so hard to have another crushing loss so soon after the loss to Syracuse.  All we needed to do was play defense for 10 secs . . . .
"Yes, Dinnertime!  The perfect break between work and drunk" - Homer J. Simpson

Big Papi

Not making excuses on the defensive end.  I can't remember in detail the last 5-6 seconds but McNeal was on the floor when he took his shot on the offensive end.  Picked himself up.  Sprinted down the court.  Had to find a man and than guard him. 

Did he find and guard the open man?  Was he juked?  Did the player with the ball have a step in the lane?  Did McNeal have to help out?

I don't know the answers as I can't remember the detail.  Is he the one to give 100% of the blame for that one play???????

NavinRJohnson

Nah...He was in position, just got caught ball watching. If he sticks with his man at all...MU wins.

MR.HAYWARD

yah sorry if you missed the last play but 4 guys played solid defense and nova was forced into a fadeaway 15 foot well guarded shot until the player notice Jerel ball watching as his man back cut him for the layup.  Absolutely entirely 100% Jerels fault.  As was his metality of having to carry the team, it is a team game Jerel and i dont believe it is selfishness just not a good understanding of moving the ball and getting everyone else involved.  He simpled torpedoed almost every time he touches the ball trying to do too much with Dj out.  We are at our best with him on the bench the last two games, he is killing us.  Brett favre in sneakers is a great analogy.  Wins some games but alos almost single handedly loses games for us that were it not for him we would win.  I persoanlly am so frustarted with 4 years of it that i will be happy when he gets his diploma.  terrible basketball IQ players are so infuriating to watch, to not improve your mental part of the game over 4 years is inexcusable.

tharocket

Thank God we're not letting him off the hook.

I cheer on players who hold themselves accountable, like Lazar when he misses a three:

He smacks his hands together hard, so even his body knows he messed up.
THEN, he hustles down the court to play some D.

Jerel?  He immediately forgives himself when he screws up.  He needs a longer memory, I'm sick of hearing how important short term memories are in sports.  Yeah, don't destroy yourself after blowing one, but remember why i happened.

Wade4Life

If we dont get to the sweet 16; i wouldnt consider throwing up mcneals number in the rafters.

PuertoRicanNightmare

What? McNeal's number doesn't belong in the rafters. Are you kidding? As it is, having Doc Rivers up there is a joke. Including McNeal would be obscene.

Wade4Life

ok ill take that back (sorry still super pissed about the end of the game).  :'(

jmayer1

Quote from: MR.HAYWARD on March 12, 2009, 04:35:16 PM
I persoanlly am so frustarted with 4 years of it that i will be happy when he gets his diploma. 

That's a pretty stupid comment, of course it's par for the course for you.


Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 12, 2009, 05:02:32 PM
Including McNeal would be obscene.

Really, including the guy who has the most points in an MU career would be obscene?  Welcome back PRN, good to have your constant bit#$ting about MU back.


AlumKCof93

I just saw the final play again and its unforgivable.  A 4-yr senior?  Wow!!!

McNeal has no idea where his guy is.  As the Nova player makes a cut, McNeal who hasn't looked or touched his guy in seconds assumes the player moves away from the basket so McNeal moves away from the action.  It leaves the Nova guy absolutely wide open.  McNeals teammates must be pissed - it was unbelievably bad.
"Yes, Dinnertime!  The perfect break between work and drunk" - Homer J. Simpson

damuts222

The fact of the matter is MU is not deep enough to have certain players play their natural positions especially in such a foul happy game as todays. Yea its the BE tournament but last time I checked there is still the NCAA tournament. I hate how so many people diss our players so much after a 1 point loss, if we would have one this game by 1 point how different might alot of opinions be. Like was stated before the first half shooting was beyond awful, and I hate how the tendency is to look at a couple plays when the fact of the matter is that MU didn't do a lot of things well. NOVA threw guys repeatedly at MU that were bigger, we should commend the hard work and hustle over the past couple of games despite the results.
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