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redbirdwarrior

Warriors up 37 with 5:29 left, but how did we give up over double the points in the second half?  What happened to the defense?  WOW!!!

JMcSteal

heres a complaint.

Buzz keeping starters in with 5 mins left esp Mcneal who even the announcer said should be taken out the game. The game is well at hand and he kept everyone in

Sometimes I don't understand the man with the big head

BrewCity83

Yeah, but wait till we play a decent team.  This doesn't prove anything.
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mugrad99

8 turnovers on McNeal. I am glad he is a senior

jaybilaswho?

not a complaint, but someone, who previously was ragging on Cubillan, will be the biggest Cubillan supporter all of a sudden.
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Tribby

Quote from: JMcSteal on March 11, 2009, 03:34:43 PM
heres a complaint.

Buzz keeping starters in with 5 mins left esp Mcneal who even the announcer said should be taken out the game. The game is well at hand and he kept everyone in

Sometimes I don't understand the man with the big head
It's either idiotic (risking injury, not to mention expending energy unnecessarily with another game in 24 hours) or classless (showing up the opponent by running up the score). I'll let the Buzz apologists decide which it is.

Niv Berkowitz

Keeping in starters under 10 to go in a game like this, when you KNOW you are playing 'nova tomorrow AND you aren't very deep is ludicrous.

Nice, Buzz.

NavinRJohnson

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Quote from: JMcSteal on March 11, 2009, 03:34:43 PM
heres a complaint.

Buzz keeping starters in with 5 mins left esp Mcneal who even the announcer said should be taken out the game. The game is well at hand and he kept everyone in

Sometimes I don't understand the man with the big head

Well, they do need to have 5 guys on the floor, and McNeal sat plenty. Who cares when the minutes come? Haven't seen the box, but I'm betting he played the fewest minutes of any starter - maybe Burke.

Its a ridiculous complaint. Who was out there the last few minutes? Cubillan, Fulce, O'Tule, Frozena and McNeal. How is that running up the score? McNeal rode the bench in the first half. Somebody has to play those minutes.

BrewCity83

Jerel didn't play much in the 1st half--how many minutes did he get?
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Woodgreen Warrior

The problem wasn't really our defense...St. John's had open looks in the first half, they just weren't hitting them in the second half.  

I'm going to say idiotic not classles, these kids are in college who cares if they're getting blown out.  Buzz has nothing to apologize for about it.  

Niv Berkowitz

I know he sat...but from an injury standpoint and the fact he's played 40 minutes in what...five straight games or something...just leave him out. The risk/reward relationship at that point makes no sense. Crean did that all the time too.


The Man in Gold

You don't take them out that early because you want to keep the momentum going.  Mcneal sat plenty in the first half, there was not much pressure on the guys, and you don't let even the possibility of a Rutgers happen when you need to play again tomorrow.

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Tribby

Quote from: TheManInGold on March 11, 2009, 03:58:50 PM
You don't take them out that early because you want to keep the momentum going.  Mcneal sat plenty in the first half, there was not much pressure on the guys, and you don't let even the possibility of a Rutgers happen when you need to play again tomorrow.


Your post is kind of ambiguous; are you in the "idiotic" camp or the "classless" camp?

g0lden3agle

Quote from: Tribby on March 11, 2009, 04:00:46 PM
Your post is kind of ambiguous; are you in the "idiotic" camp or the "classless" camp?
I'm prety sure he's in the "The guys already played some of their lowest minute totals during the big east play, they can play a few more before I put in the 2nd string" camp.

willie warrior

McNeal still managed to get 8 TO's. He better get his head out of his kielbasa.
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AlumKCof93

There's no reason for wes to have played 31 mins in a game we were winning 38-10 at halftime.  Just no reason for it.  Lazar with 27 mins is too much also.
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NavinRJohnson

Quote from: AlumKCof93 on March 11, 2009, 04:06:16 PM
There's no reason for wes to have played 31 mins in a game we were winning 38-10 at halftime.  Just no reason for it.  Lazar with 27 mins is too much also.

What's an appropriate number in a game that is a laugher and they have to expend little physical energy, and zero emotional energy?

Tribby

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 11, 2009, 04:07:32 PM
What's an appropriate number in a game that is a laugher and they have to expend little physical energy, and zero emotional energy?
Let's even ignore the "freak injury" possibility on the grounds that a freak injury can happen walking to the locker room or eating lunch.

All it takes is one St. John's player to lose his cool out of frustration (due to his team getting destroyed or that the destroying team iseemingly running up the score) and commit a flagrant foul. Just keep the starters on the bench. Up 30 points with 12 to go, they could have not taken another shot the rest of the game and still won by 10...

IAmMarquette

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 11, 2009, 04:07:32 PM
What's an appropriate number in a game that is a laugher and they have to expend little physical energy, and zero emotional energy?
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 11, 2009, 04:07:32 PM
What's an appropriate number in a game that is a laugher and they have to expend little physical energy, and zero emotional energy?

Right. The thing to keep in mind is that Wes's 31 was 9 minutes less than each of the last 4 games (14 less than the OT game vs. Cuse) and Lazar's 27 is probably about 7 minutes less than his average. I have no problem whatsoever with time played. In addition, the only starters still in under 5 minutes were Jerel (who missed half of the first half) and Dwight, who only played 18 minutes total. No qualms here.

BrewCity83

The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

IAmMarquette

Quote from: Tribby on March 11, 2009, 04:11:05 PM
Let's even ignore the "freak injury" possibility on the grounds that a freak injury can happen walking to the locker room or eating lunch.

All it takes is one St. John's player to lose his cool out of frustration (due to his team getting destroyed or that the destroying team iseemingly running up the score) and commit a flagrant foul. Just keep the starters on the bench. Up 30 points with 12 to go, they could have not taken another shot the rest of the game and still won by 10...

It doesn't have to be late in the game for this to happen. See Nutter, Jamar against us last year.

AlumKCof93

As Naivin wrote in the gameday chat, if St. John's made a run Buzz could have put Wes back in.  Take him and Lazar out with 5-6 mins to go and leave them out.  There is another game tomorrow.  This was the perfect game  for MU - a blowout victory to restore confidence and rest players for tomorrow's game.  I think Buzz negated the second point by having Wes play as long as he did.
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Pakuni

Quote from: Tribby on March 11, 2009, 04:11:05 PM
Let's even ignore the "freak injury" possibility on the grounds that a freak injury can happen walking to the locker room or eating lunch.

All it takes is one St. John's player to lose his cool out of frustration (due to his team getting destroyed or that the destroying team iseemingly running up the score) and commit a flagrant foul. Just keep the starters on the bench. Up 30 points with 12 to go, they could have not taken another shot the rest of the game and still won by 10...

A smart coach would have had his starters in the lockerroom. All it takes is one St. John's fan to lose control (due to his team getting destroyed or that the destroying team is seemingly runnin up the score) and commit a flagrant attack on the Marquette sideline.

Had MU cleared the bench and gone into a shell with 12 minutes left, and St. John's got back in the game, half of you would be going apesh*t about it.

Tribby

Quote from: IAmMarquette on March 11, 2009, 04:14:01 PM
Right. The thing to keep in mind is that Wes's 31 was 9 minutes less than each of the last 4 games (14 less than the OT game vs. Cuse) and Lazar's 27 is probably about 7 minutes less than his average.
To me, this is an argument in favor of playing them FEWER minutes today. These guys have been playing insane minutes all season long, and it will catch up with them at some point (if it hasn't already). Why pile on more minutes when you don't need to?

BrewCity83

These guys are in awesome condition.  They work way harder in most practices every day than they do in games.  They will all be fresh tomorrow.
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