Len Elmore says we are still a "4 or 5" seed

[Coleman]

Am I crazy or is he?

I was thinking 6-8

[jtsanto]

I think he was saying if we had DJ still, without him we are a 7 unless we win two in the BE then maybe 5

[StillWarriors]

I'm pretty sure he was saying we were a 3 or 4 before, and now may be a 5. He's clueless.

[Big Papi]

Sounds right to me.  We are not good enough to beat the top 5-7 teams in the country but we are a top 20 team.  A team that is 20th should be the last 5 seed.

All of you think it is a major stretch to think that we are a top 20 team?

[GOMU1104]

Sounds right to me.  We are not good enough to beat the top 5-7 teams in the country but we are a top 20 team.  A team that is 20th should be the last 5 seed.
All of you think it is a major stretch to think that we are a top 20 team?

If only it was that easy....

[Coleman]

We were a top 20 team before we lost DJ. And we are playing very well today.
BUT....

We have lost our last 5 games

We will get docked 1-2 lines because of DJ's injury

We will probably get docked another line to avoid a Big-East matchup in the first 2 rounds.

[Big Papi]

I know what the buts are, but I dont think that is what Len Elmore is saying.  I know why we are going to get screwed and not get a 4 or 5 seed but Len Elmore thinks we are a good enough team that based on ability we are a 4 or 5 seed if you take out the ifs ands or buts.  I hope that makes sense.

Maybe this is easier, forget RPIs, records, last 10, last 12, strength of schedule, DJ injury.  After watching one half of play, Len thinks we are a 4/5 seed. 

[Mayor McCheese]

We were a top 20 team before we lost DJ. And we are playing very well today.
BUT....

We have lost our last 5 games

We will get docked 1-2 lines because of DJ's injury

We will probably get docked another line to avoid a Big-East matchup in the first 2 rounds.

We were a top 10 team before we lost DJ... we are a top 20 team now.

If we beat St. Johns and Nova we will receive a 4 or 5 seed... beat St. Johns and lose respectively to Nova... 6-7 seed  lose to St. Johns 8 or 9 seed.

[Hards Alumni]

completely agree, McC.

Win the BET and we are a 3-4

[SCdem@MU]

completely agree, McC.

Win the BET and we are a 3-4

With our limited bench I do not want us playing in the BET title game. Winning 2 games in the BET is fine with me.

[BrewCity83]

With our limited bench I do not want us playing in the BET title game. Winning 2 games in the BET is fine with me.

NO!!

Win the BET!!  Get a 3-4 seed and get to rest for 4-5 days.  Be the BET Champions in the toughest league in the history of college BB!!

[AlumKCof93]

If we lost today, then I'd accept us as an 8-9 seed.  It would be tough to argue losing our last 5 games.

But a blowout victory today means that we really can't suffer a bad loss from this point forward.  A win tomorrow could make us a 4, but otherwise I don't think we should be higher than a 6.

[lab_warrior]

None of our guys are from NYC, so he can't blabber on about how "tough" we are. 
With none of our players from NYC, he's got no talking points, so he just pulls stuff out of thin air about seeding.

[Marquette_g]

NO!!

Win the BET!!  Get a 3-4 seed and get to rest for 4-5 days.  Be the BET Champions in the toughest league in the history of college BB!!

This is NOT the toughest league in the history of college BB.  Very good, yes, toughest in the history of the game, quite doubtful.  Many would argue it isn't even the best this year. 

[spartan3186]

We were a top 20 team before we lost DJ. And we are playing very well today.
BUT....

We have lost our last 5 games

We will get docked 1-2 lines because of DJ's injury

We will probably get docked another line to avoid a Big-East matchup in the first 2 rounds.

I must have missed when we lost to Georgetown

[The Lens]

With our limited bench I do not want us playing in the BET title game. Winning 2 games in the BET is fine with me.

It's a myth that going 4 in 4 would hurt us.  The reason 4 in 4 teams lose is b/c they usually weren't supposed to be there anyways (MU, SLU, UGA) and what caught up to them is karma, not fatigue.  Since these bubble at best teams make the tourney they are a low (bad) seed and play a good team.  We would be a 3 seed at worst and playing a 14 seed.   

[ChicosBailBonds]

It's a myth that going 4 in 4 would hurt us.  The reason 4 in 4 teams lose is b/c they usually weren't supposed to be there anyways (MU, SLU, UGA) and what caught up to them is karma, not fatigue.  Since these bubble at best teams make the tourney they are a low (bad) seed and play a good team.  We would be a 3 seed at worst and playing a 14 seed.   

I completely agree.  These are young kids, they have 5 days minimum to bounce back.

[vealdogs]

I can't wait until Pitt plays and Len can talk about all that New York pride ooozing everywhere in MSG. What insight!

[muwarrior87]

I can't wait until Pitt plays and Len can talk about all that New York pride ooozing everywhere in MSG. What insight!

you'll be waiting a while. Elmore and Shulman have the early games each day and Pitt plays in the second session.

[4everwarriors]

What does Elmore know? He's from NY.

[dwaderoy2004]

I completely agree.  These are young kids, they have 5 days minimum to bounce back.

and yet weren't you the one saying all year that buzz plays the guys too many minutes and they would burn out at the end of the season?

[BrewCity83]

This is NOT the toughest league in the history of college BB.  Very good, yes, toughest in the history of the game, quite doubtful.  Many would argue it isn't even the best this year. 

Buzz said on his TV show this week that it is the best league ever.   
He's not the only one who believes that...I'm not saying it's a fact, but it has been widely brought up.

[Hards Alumni]

Buzz said on his TV show this week that it is the best league ever.   
He's not the only one who believes that...I'm not saying it's a fact, but it has been widely brought up.

yup.  it is pretty widely recognized that this year's BE is one of the toughest conferences ever.

with 3 potential #1 seeds for the dance, you are going to argue?

ok, lets hear the argument.

[NavinRJohnson]

you'll be waiting a while. Elmore and Shulman have the early games each day and Pitt plays in the second session.

Actually, I think you'll get there tomorrow, as I believ the Bilas/Raftery team move on to the ACC tourney, and Elmore and Shulman work the BE on Friday and Saturday night.

[muwarrior87]

that mean those two have all 4 games today?