How Much Do We Miss Mbawke?

[nola03]

My thoughts exactly.  We miss him from a talent perspective.  I also understand the rationale that others are using in terms of him wanting to be here, etc, etc.  But at the end of the day, that doesn't mean we miss his basketball talent any less. 

Another big, with talent.  Rebounding prowess.  Five more fouls. 

Even conceding all that, how are we to know Mbakwe even gets off the bench knowing Buzz' reluctance to look left? 

[77ncaachamps]

I'm pretty sure he'd gotten of the bench with the talent he has.

But this Trevor talk is like rehashing Blankson after the Final Four...

If Trevor wanted to stay or if MU wanted Trevor, he'd be here. But he's not.

It seems that someone needs to ask him straight-up, "Why'd you leave MU?" and "Do you wish you were still at MU?" to kill this thread.

[Tugg Speedman]

How do Mbawke's JC stats compare to Fulce?

I know they play different positions but in terms of promise/update based on JC stats, they same to project the same.

[MUWarrior06]

This is stupid.

Are we going to play this game with everyone who transfers?

How much are we missing Christopherson? Mo can't hit the broad side of a barn and Cubillan is garbage with his shoulders.

What about any recruits that we missed out on? What about Nick Williams? He isn't doing much but he's "another 5 fouls" and another guard.


This is just as stupid as those comparing Favre and Rodgers this year for the Packers... who cares.

Yes, it would have been nice to have another big, but he never showed he could play in the BE! Sure, he can do well in JUCO, but deal. My sister could do well in JUCO. It doesn't translate to D1 or even Big East basketball. Get over it.

[detroitwarrior]

If only Doc Rivers had stayed his senior year.
If only Wade had stayed his senior year.

Who cares about a guy (Mbwake) who screwed his team and university?

[bma725]

How do Mbawke's JC stats compare to Fulce?

I know they play different positions but in terms of promise/update based on JC stats, they same to project the same.

Actually they don't.  JUCO ball isn't like college ball where you can compare players that all play in big time conferences or in Division 1.  JUCO ball has a hierarchy of where the good players go in terms of colleges, divisions, and states.  Fulce played in Texas, which is one of the top 2 areas for JUCO ball in the country along with California.  Florida is good, but it's not on that level. 

Fulce was playing against a lot of players that will play in high major or at least D1 ball.  Mbakwe has some of the top talent this year, but Florida JUCO ball isn't nearly as deep.

[Tugg Speedman]

so Fulce might have shown MORE promise that Mbawke based on JC stats.

[bma725]

so Fulce might have shown MORE promise that Mbawke based on JC stats.

It's really tough to say.  Right now, Florida is on an upswing in terms of JUCO ball.  Mbakwe's team is ranked #3 in the country behind another Miami team and Dwight Buyck's Indian Hills team.  But top to bottom Texas has traditionally had stronger teams. 

The NCJAA National Champions have come from Texas 3 of the last 4 years, and the winningest NCJAA programs of all time are either Texas schools or Iowa schools.  Of course, California JUCO schools aren't part of the NCJAA so it's hard to know how strong these programs really are.

In short, you can't compare JUCO stats between Mbakwe and Fulce because there's just too much difference in where they play. The only way to do it is if they play in the same region and conference, otherwise there's too many variables.

[Hards Alumni]

Mbakwe only matters because Otule got hurt. The post should be how much has Otule's injury hurt MU. I have to believe Mbakwe would not have transferred, if he thought he was going to start. I believe he felt Otule was more in Buzz's plans.

once again, what are you smoking, bilsu?

[Hards Alumni]

My thoughts exactly.  We miss him from a talent perspective.  I also understand the rationale that others are using in terms of him wanting to be here (or rather not wanting to be here), etc, etc.  But at the end of the day, that doesn't mean we miss his basketball talent any less. 

Another big, with talent.  Rebounding prowess.  Five more fouls. 

+100

[bma725]

Mbakwe only matters because Otule got hurt. The post should be how much has Otule's injury hurt MU. I have to believe Mbakwe would not have transferred, if he thought he was going to start. I believe he felt Otule was more in Buzz's plans.

If you truly believe that then you don't have a clue about what's going on.

Mbakwe's tranfer had nothing to do with basketball.

Mbakwe's transfer had nothing to do with academics.

Mbakwe's transfer was purely for personal/family reasons.

[augoman]

If you truly believe that then you don't have a clue about what's going on.

Mbakwe's tranfer had nothing to do with basketball.

Mbakwe's transfer had nothing to do with academics.

Mbakwe's transfer was purely for personal/family reasons.

are you referring to his engagement to the mother of his child who lives in MN?  If so, why didn't she move here, or he go there rather than FL?

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

are you referring to his engagement to the mother of his child who lives in MN?  If so, why didn't she move here, or he go there rather than FL?

I think that's the million dollar question.

[bma725]

are you referring to his engagement to the mother of his child who lives in MN?  If so, why didn't she move here, or he go there rather than FL?

Not really.  

There's much more to the Mbakwe story than can ever really be told.  Handlers and family members with ulterior motives play far too big an influence in the young mans life and have for years.

[bma725]

I think that's the million dollar question.

I'm not going to deny that the child was an issue but that's not why he left MU.  Mbakwe's issues go back quite aways before his becoming a father, and they had more influence on him than his child/fiance did when it came to leaving MU and going to Miami.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I'm not going to deny that the child was an issue but that's not why he left MU.  Mbakwe's issues go back quite aways before his becoming a father, and they had more influence on him than his child/fiance did when it came to leaving MU and going to Miami.

Fair enough.

You've always had a good understanding of the recruits and the program, so I'll just take your word.

I have no beef if the kid just wanted to go home (not uncommon), but the whole Miami thing seems weird. Outside influences could explain a lot of that.

Really too bad for MU and too bad for him. It could have been a beautiful relationship.