Get a Life Will You People..

[Niv Berkowitz]

If I may take William Shatner's line from his sketch regarding Trekkies and apply it to all you Crean haters out there...

Get a life will you people? I mean...he was just a g.damned basketball coach. Move on. Get over it. Some of you continue to act like little girls that didn't get asked to the dance.

Please focus on MU and stop spending time worrying about what players that turned MU down are doing. Who friggin' cares.

Thank you for my rant.

[Doctor V]

how is the israeli national team doing these days niv?

[Markusquette]

While I somewhat agree with you I think almost everyone can't help but check stats of Tyshawn Taylor and Nick Williams.  I mean doesn't it make sense for us to check progress of commits we had?  I can't imagine you're not the least bit curious.  As far as Crean, the whole "it's Indiana" thing is kind of old now, but I can't help but smile after Indiana gives up their big lead to Michigan today and loss

[wadesworld]

Quite honestly I don't care what Tyshawn Taylor and Nick Williams are doing.  The only way I hear about them are on here or if a friend of mine who does care texts me and says ____ is kicking ass, and I basically say I don't care.  Or if they are playing on ESPN and there's nothing better on, then I'll watch it, but not for them.  I care more about how bad Indiana is, and that makes me laugh a little bit.

[77ncaachamps]

Quite honestly I don't care what Tyshawn Taylor and Nick Williams are doing.  The only way I hear about them are on here or if a friend of mine who does care texts me and says ____ is kicking ass, and I basically say I don't care.  Or if they are playing on ESPN and there's nothing better on, then I'll watch it, but not for them.  I care more about how bad Indiana is, and that makes me laugh a little bit.

Totally.

[TallTitan34]

Ahaha awesome picture.

[only a warrior]

Niv,

Couldn't stand you as a playa.

Agree that I could care less what prospects that didn't come here do or former coaches for that matter.  The people that do are probably the same ones that former girlfriends have to get restraining orders against.... 

[MR.HAYWARD]

Do people not have a problem with Tommy Naismith reaching out to Erik Williams and attempting to sway his allegiance from MU to IU.  You simply do not do that.  A person with character, tells his players to stay where they are and do not call him.  Numerous coaches have over the years done that.  Kevin Oneill called his incoming recruits and told them to attend MU and the would not be allowed to follow him to Tenn., he told the current Mu players the same.  Douchebag attempts to recruit Mu players and commits, that alone, forget the timing of his announcement, simply going back and trying to steal players is such a scumbag move.  I have far less of a problem with the players finding out thru ESPN as bad as that is.

[4everwarriors]

For those who don't like the rips on Turtlehead, here's an idea, don't read them. Some of us knew he was a slippery used car salesman for years and are thrilled he's no longer employed by the University.

[Niv Berkowitz]

only a warrior,

I'll have you know that I've put on 15 lbs and have worked on my three-point shot some more. I can consistently knock down about 22-27% now from deep.

[jmayer1]

Here's an idea for those of you that didn't like him, stop posting about him.  Nearly every comment out of some poster's mouths are a rip/dig at Crean.  Some of us knew he was the second (third at worst) best coach in MU's history and didn't care about all of the other garbage (not kissing up to certain alums, how he dressed, what he drank) as long as he won and his players were good kids who graduated.  Nobody will be thrilled he's no longer employed by the university if MU isn't as good of a team as it was under the "slippery used car salesman."

[MR.HAYWARD]

Cream never had a team at 14-2 and 3-0

[Marquette84]

Do people not have a problem with Tommy Naismith reaching out to Erik Williams and attempting to sway his allegiance from MU to IU.  You simply do not do that.  A person with character, tells his players to stay where they are and do not call him.  Numerous coaches have over the years done that.  Kevin Oneill called his incoming recruits and told them to attend MU and the would not be allowed to follow him to Tenn., he told the current Mu players the same.  Douchebag attempts to recruit Mu players and commits, that alone, forget the timing of his announcement, simply going back and trying to steal players is such a scumbag move.  I have far less of a problem with the players finding out thru ESPN as bad as that is.

Yeah.  Just terrible for a program to hire a guy, then recruit players that had committed to another team.  That's precisely why Buzz Williams told Joe Fulce to stick with UNO when he was hired as MU's assistant.

Rick Majerus didnt' just ask, but actually took Roman Mueller with him to Ball State.  Is he a scumbag as well? 

This is just another example of your derangement with Crean--for which you STILL haven't explained.  Unfortunately, you neither put up NOR shut up.

You now rip Crean for something that is matter-of-fact in college basketball, and has happened previously and subsequently at MU.

Majerus did it. Buzz did it.  O'Neill did it.  Yes, even as you praise O'Neill, you apparently forgot that O'Neill not only recruited an unsigned player--he recruited right off the Arizona roster to get Ron Curry to transfer. 

The fact of the matter is that O'Neill knew he could land better players at Tennessee than those he left behind at MU--and he could get them to play right away--not sit out a year.  He dupes you into thinking he's a great guy for not recruiting guys he didn't want.

Then, there's the obvious fact that when we hired Crean's replacement we would have EXPECTED him to have a long list of top-level recruits that he had relationships with--perhaps even verbals. Had we hired Dick Bennett, there would have been no problem--in fact we would have fully expected--that he had ins with players he was recruiting to Washington State.  Ditto with Sean Miller and Xavier.   

But I guess its only a scumbag move if Crean does it, right? 

[wadesworld]

But I guess its only a scumbag move if Crean does it, right? 

Yessir!

[The Lens]

Yeah.  Just terrible for a program to hire a guy, then recruit players that had committed to another team.  That's precisely why Buzz Williams told Joe Fulce to stick with UNO when he was hired as MU's assistant.

Rick Majerus didnt' just ask, but actually took Roman Mueller with him to Ball State.  Is he a scumbag as well? 

This is just another example of your derangement with Crean--for which you STILL haven't explained.  Unfortunately, you neither put up NOR shut up.

You now rip Crean for something that is matter-of-fact in college basketball, and has happened previously and subsequently at MU.

Majerus did it. Buzz did it.  O'Neill did it.  Yes, even as you praise O'Neill, you apparently forgot that O'Neill not only recruited an unsigned player--he recruited right off the Arizona roster to get Ron Curry to transfer. 

The fact of the matter is that O'Neill knew he could land better players at Tennessee than those he left behind at MU--and he could get them to play right away--not sit out a year.  He dupes you into thinking he's a great guy for not recruiting guys he didn't want.

Then, there's the obvious fact that when we hired Crean's replacement we would have EXPECTED him to have a long list of top-level recruits that he had relationships with--perhaps even verbals. Had we hired Dick Bennett, there would have been no problem--in fact we would have fully expected--that he had ins with players he was recruiting to Washington State.  Ditto with Sean Miller and Xavier.   

But I guess its only a scumbag move if Crean does it, right? 

SJS, I know you hate it when the truth gets in the way of your presentation but...

KO was an assistant at Arizona
Majerus spent a year with the Bucks

Apples & Oranges.

[Mayor McCheese]

Ive made over 1000 posts on this board.  Ive also made a ton in the Superbar which doesn't count.  Throughout one full day I am fully capable of being able to pay attention to Marquette and other things... such as teaching, coaching, other sports teams, and even more... including Tom Crean.

Why do we keep up on old MU players in the NBA... why do we care about Dwyane Wade, hes at friggen Miami right now... who cares, he only USE to be a MU player... just like Crean USE to be the coach... I care about past relations to the program...and ones who backstab or ditch the program without fair warning, plus attempt to take and steal players away from the program I root against.

I went to school at UW-Platteville, there is a love affair with Bo Ryan at that school (literally)... why can't they get over Bo Ryan, hes at Wisconsin now... oh wait, because he coached there... thats why

Why is your screenname of a player who played barely a season for us and then went back to his home country?  Hes not with us anymore.

[MUCrew]

Ive made over 1000 posts on this board.  Ive also made a ton in the Superbar which doesn't count.  Throughout one full day I am fully capable of being able to pay attention to Marquette and other things... such as teaching, coaching, other sports teams, and even more... including Tom Crean.

Why do we keep up on old MU players in the NBA... why do we care about Dwyane Wade, hes at friggen Miami right now... who cares, he only USE to be a MU player... just like Crean USE to be the coach... I care about past relations to the program...and ones who backstab or ditch the program without fair warning, plus attempt to take and steal players away from the program I root against.

I went to school at UW-Platteville, there is a love affair with Bo Ryan at that school (literally)... why can't they get over Bo Ryan, hes at Wisconsin now... oh wait, because he coached there... thats why

Why is your screenname of a player who played barely a season for us and then went back to his home country?  Hes not with us anymore.

Oh I back this post 100%

[Badgerhater920]

Here's an idea for those of you that didn't like him, stop posting about him.  Nearly every comment out of some poster's mouths are a rip/dig at Crean. 

What are message boards for then?

[Marquette84]

SJS, I know you hate it when the truth gets in the way of your presentation but...

KO was an assistant at Arizona
Majerus spent a year with the Bucks

Apples & Oranges.

Hardly.  

At worst, it's like a red delicious apple versus a golden delicious apple.  The distinction borders on irrelevancy.

Was Mueller a committed recruit to MU?  Yes.  
Is Marjeus the guy who recruited him away?  Yes.  
Did Majreus tell Mueller to honor his commitment to MU?  Obviously Not.
Did Mueller renege on his commitment on MU to play for Majerus?  Yes.

Seriously, what difference did Majerus' year off make?  The player was committed to MU.  Majerus recruited him away.  How does a year off make anything I said untrue?


As for Curry, was he a committed recruit to Ariz?  Yes.
Did O'Neill recruit him away?  Yes.
Did O'Neill tell Curry that he should honor his commitment to Arizona?  No.

Again, what difference does it make that O'Neill was only an Arizona assistant?  He poached a player from his former team.  

[ChicosBailBonds]

Hardly.  

At worst, it's like a red delicious apple versus a golden delicious apple.  The distinction borders on irrelevancy.

Was Mueller a committed recruit to MU?  Yes.  
Is Marjeus the guy who recruited him away?  Yes.  
Did Majreus tell Mueller to honor his commitment to MU?  Obviously Not.
Did Mueller renege on his commitment on MU to play for Majerus?  Yes.

Seriously, what difference did Majerus' year off make?  The player was committed to MU.  Majerus recruited him away.  How does a year off make anything I said untrue?


As for Curry, was he a committed recruit to Ariz?  Yes.
Did O'Neill recruit him away?  Yes.
Did O'Neill tell Curry that he should honor his commitment to Arizona?  No.

Again, what difference does it make that O'Neill was only an Arizona assistant?  He poached a player from his former team.  

Huge difference.....Crean did it, therefore evil.  KO, Majerus, etc do it....then it's ok.

[The Lens]

Was Lute sad to see Curry go?

Was Dukiet sad to see Mueller go?

Those were transfers that benefited both schools.

You two are great...I don't think TC is evil and hate all things associated with him, I just think he is tremendously overrated and since I spent the last 9 years being told how he was God, I'm going to spend the next 9 years debunking that.

See you in 2017.

[rugbydrummer]

Totally.

Where's your Diet Pepsi, now, betch?!?!  Oh yeah, that's right, I forgot it's in MY hand

BTW not anything but a coincidence, but y'all noticed pepsi just changed it's logos, right?  Just Sayin'

For the record, MayorMcCheese .... I don't think MayorMcCheese ever played MU bball    don't be an anti-Niv-ite 

[Mayor McCheese]

He changed from Pepsi products to Coke products due to Coke and Indiana having a deal... I am almost positive on that

And Mayor McCheese went straight to the NBA out of high school... no need for college... his first name IS mayor for goodness sakes.

[augoman]

just a note, Majerus was also a classless act.  Not only when he left for Ball State, but when he rescinded schollys from Terry Reason and Vic Lazzeretti.  The difference is he didn't focus on self-promotion first, last, and always.  TC did some nice things while at MU, and I appreciate them.  Part of his success was timing.  Cords' hard work got us into the Big East at the right time, Fr. Wild's commitment to the bball program, along with that of a couple of well-heeled fans, created a great facility and atmosphere into which TC could recruit. But please, no more degradation of used car salesmen!

[MUsoxfan]

I wonder who II's shoe sponsor is.  He can't wear shoes he's not paid to wear