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Fred Garvin

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Being ranked
« on: November 29, 2008, 09:00:43 PM »
I fear this will be the last time we are ranked this year.

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Re: Being ranked
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2008, 09:06:23 PM »
No. We will fall to 23rd. We will drop out if Bucky cleans our clocks next week, then will never see the rankings again.

Fred Garvin

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Re: Being ranked
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2008, 09:09:24 PM »
I would agree with that.We are going to be bad inside this year.I knew we were going to be weak,but not this bad.

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Re: Being ranked
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2008, 09:14:26 PM »
No. We will fall to 23rd. We will drop out if Bucky cleans our clocks next week, then will never see the rankings again.

I see they only scored 67 against UWM, but they held them to 46, so the actually beat them by more points (21) than we did (20).


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Re: Being ranked
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2008, 09:18:18 PM »
Any team that has any decent player over 6-9 and any kind of quickness will give us problems. We were exposed tonight. There is no part of our game that stands out as exceptional.

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Re: Being ranked
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2008, 09:36:58 PM »

This team has no business being ranked. Hold on to your selzer bottle when we play Tennessee, Louisville, UConn, etc.
Crean really left the cupboard bare. Acker couldn't guard a CYO player.
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Re: Being ranked
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2008, 09:55:49 PM »
Losing Ooze really hurt. Having DJ regress into a barely mediocre college point guard has hurt. Jerel's making that shots against Stanford has hurt the most. He now thinks he can shoot, and he can't.

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Re: Being ranked
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2008, 07:13:07 AM »
Having DJ regress into a barely mediocre college point guard has hurt.

11.2 ppg
5.7 apg
3.8 rpg
2.8 spg
43% FG Pct.
On pace to be all-time leading MU scorer.

Barely mediocre indeed.  How'd he get a scholarship anyway?

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Re: Being ranked
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2008, 08:26:30 AM »
Gee, let's go overboard. No one said he didn't deserve a scholarship. He has done a ton for MU. He also has regressed since his freshman and sophomore seasons.

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Re: Being ranked
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2008, 08:43:15 AM »
Actually his 8 assists yesterday was one of the few brightspots-----i agree he hasn't improved his shooting----perhaps even regressed there-----but he sees the floor as well as anyone and sets up others par excellance!

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Re: Being ranked
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2008, 09:47:11 AM »
And DJ made some great passes last night that we just flubbed - Burke, Lazar, etc.  We jsut palyed poorly.  I didn't think our losing Barro would be this dramatic, but it definitely is dramatic - our interior presence is , well, absent.  And that, unless Otule really rocks and rolls, will hurt us this year.  Here' shoping for the best when we get Otule and Fulce back - things might be better then....

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Re: Being ranked
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2008, 12:05:21 PM »
Gee, let's go overboard. No one said he didn't deserve a scholarship. He has done a ton for MU. He also has regressed since his freshman and sophomore seasons.

But to say he has regressed into a "barely mediocre" point guard is going overboard.

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Re: Being ranked
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2008, 12:10:48 PM »
Crean really left the cupboard bare. Acker couldn't guard a CYO player.
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Are you f***ing kidding me?  He may have left without an inside presence but inheriting a team with McNeal, Mathews, James, and Hayward is any new coaches dream come true!!

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Re: Being ranked
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2008, 12:32:15 PM »
not when you have injuries to half your players over 6'6" and the ones you do have healthy are not of the same caliber as those 4 you listed.

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Re: Being ranked
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2008, 12:55:31 PM »
Crean really left the cupboard bare. Acker couldn't guard a CYO player.


Are you f***ing kidding me?  He may have left without an inside presence but inheriting a team with McNeal, Mathews, James, and Hayward is any new coaches dream come true!!

Again, the "leaving the cupboards bare" thing is a more looking at the future.  We have 4 good players and that is it.  Our other players would be other team's Frozena.  And three of those four leave next year.  No prospects coming down the pipe.  That is a bare cupboard.
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Re: Being ranked
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2008, 01:22:46 PM »
I think you have to look at the type of team we are playing. We are going to have a lot of trouble with with athletic quick teams like Dayton, Tennessee, Uconn, Louisville and Syrcause. Good teams like Notre Dame and Wisconsin we can beat if we speed the game up on them. Our advantage in these games is our team speed and we have to make sure we use it. Wisconsin looked like they were going to beat Uconn until Uconn sped up the game. Kansas looked like they were going to beat Syracuse until Syracuse sped up the game. Wisconsin wants to play turtle ball and if we let them they will beat us. We need to force them into a fast pace game.

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Re: Being ranked
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2008, 01:37:31 PM »
Actually his 8 assists yesterday was one of the few brightspots-----i agree he hasn't improved his shooting----perhaps even regressed there-----but he sees the floor as well as anyone and sets up others par excellance!

Murf, I wanted to refute you but so far DJ's stats have been pretty solid.

34 assists to 9 TOs
17 steals

But his shooting has surely regressed as his confidence in his shot:

Frosh to Senior
PPG: 15.3 to 14.9 to 12.9 to 11.2
FGM: 5.6 to 5.0 to 4.5 to 3.8
FGA: 13.0 to 13.1 to 11.4 to 9.0
3PtM: 1.3 to 1.5 to 1.3 to 1.3
FT%: 64.1 to 65.1 to 66.4 to 46.4

His best chances to be in the NBA was after his Frosh year. But even then, I think his mechanics were not NBA-ready, though his athleticism - we readily agree - was.

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Re: Being ranked
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2008, 02:00:02 PM »
point taken, TallTitan. He is better than mediocre. Can we agree that he has not become the star he looked to be his freshman year?

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Re: Being ranked
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2008, 02:35:31 PM »
Not the superstar we hoped for, but a nearly 4 to 1 assist to turnover ratio is phenomenal. I also thought he pressured the ball like crazy the last two nights, something we've never done much of despite having a small lineup with speed.

The absence of finishers at the rim for him to dish off to doesn't make his job any easier.

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Re: Being ranked
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2008, 03:31:39 PM »
point taken, TallTitan. He is better than mediocre. Can we agree that he has not become the star he looked to be his freshman year?

He looked to be a star because he had a future NBA player on the court with him who just happened to be the best shooter in school history.  Crean failed to recruit any other high quality shooters or any big men who could finish, so now he's forced to do things he didn't have to do as a freshman, which has hindered his development.

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Re: Being ranked
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2008, 06:13:38 PM »
point taken, TallTitan. He is better than mediocre. Can we agree that he has not become the star he looked to be his freshman year?

I'll agree that he his shooting has regressed from his freshman year but he is still an above average point guard. His defense is solid and offensively he still creates scoring with his assists.

 

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