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nola03

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Quote from: RJax55 on October 25, 2008, 07:25:50 PM
Nola, these guys will definitely need to be developed, but that's now up to the staff. But you can't develop bigs, if you don't have any.

One of the problems I had with Crean is that he didn't bring in enough developmental bigs.

I'm not ignoring Otule or McMorrow. I just think it's deeply optimistic to label one or both as a post option before either has played a minute of college ball -- especially when considering the time it takes for a big to develop and the lack of years both have in the organized game.

Building on that, and including rjax's last point, my initial response meant to convey that more fans would probably like to see another developmental option at the 5 rather then considering that position covered and taking a commitment at other positions.

The only time you ignore a position of need is if a special talent is available, e.g. Snaer or Wilson. Otherwise, it's sometimes best to grab a quantity and let the chips fall where they may (as we see in the case of Bo Ryan and his stable of 5 spot prospects).

MUFan71

 I found a site with a picture of this kid 6'9"-6'10" and still growing. It seems Buzz wants to get bigger and has starting next year. Snaer would have been nice in a MU uniform, Buzz may have different plans.
Watching Otule tonight he may be closer to a good amount of minutes than some think.


http://www.caainsider.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4155&Itemid=101

ATWizJr


LastWarrior

In case ya'll haven't seen this...

http://nychoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=867869



Roseboro goes Big East

Maurice Wingate
NYCHoops.net Publisher

Before playing in the iS8/Nike Tip-Off Classic in South Jamaica, NY, Brett Roseboro was an unknown but talented 6-foot-10 forward from Pennsylvania but after an impressive performance, it prompted a feature story in NYCHoops.net.

When asked why he came to New York, Rosenboro said, "I came here to hopefully get some more exposure and some more offers. Roseboro would get his wish because soon after, the senior from Quakertown High School was the talk of the town. "After that first game in the iS8, they all came at me so fast." However, after taking a few visits, Rosenboro called NYC Hoops on Saturday afternoon with some good news, saying, "I just called to let you know that today I committed to Marquette."

Roseboro played in the iS8 with the Lehigh Valley Elite Heat, coached by Derrick Mims. In their first game the Elite Heat played against the Juice All-stars and handed them their only defeat. In that game Rosenboro played against Maryland commit James Padgett and more than held his own, displaying a wide array of talent both post-up and from the perimeter. Roseboro also played against, Jeronne Maymon in the iS8. Ironically, Maymon will soon be Roseboro's teammate at Marquette

According to Roseboro, he received a litany of inquiries from top programs such as Marquette, Maryland, St. John's, Temple, Providence and Rutgers. After taking a few visits however, Rosenboro says, "After being on campus and seeing what Marquette was about, I decided to go with Marquette.

While Roseboro received a lot of interest after the iS8 he said, "Marquette came at me first and hardest.

Roseboro went on to say, "Marquette is passionate about basketball and said they need I guy like me. They said that they had guards and big men but needed a face-up four man who could be an offensive threat."

The senior forward from Quakertown High School in PA, who is still on campus at Marquette with his mother, decided Saturday after conferring with his parents that, "This is where I wanna be." Roseboro then notified the assistant coaches and the head coach (Buzz Williams) of his decision.
"The Lord is a Warrior" - Exodus 15:3

mviale

I am sure Jeronne gave the thumbs up for this kid.
You heard it here first. Davante Gardner will be a Beast this year.
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=27259

TVDirector

so, is this kid going to more like a Grimm, or more like a Harangoatee?

regardless, if Roseboro actually said 'litany of inquiries', then we got us a scholar-athlete!

trusting Buzz on this one!

go mu.

bilsu

To often under Crean the no name teams on our non-conference schedule would have better bigmen than our team. Roseboro seems like the kind of player that slips though the cracks and ends up being a very good player on one of these teams. Although I would have loved to have Snaer, Wilson or Colvin in that order, I thought we would probably end up with the Serbian from North Carolina. In my mind I thought because of his size he was more important to our team needs. If Roseboro is a better prospect than the Serbian than I am very happy with this commitment. I have no idea if either of them are any good, but, I have to believe he would not waste a scholarship on a player without potential.

muarmy81


Big Papi

I don't see any extremely talented big men knocking down our doors.  The one thing I really like about about Otule, McMorrow and now Roseboro is that they all had huge growth spurts recently, all three have good footwork, soft hands and skills that provide very high ceilings.  We will take our lumps with them early ono but my guess is that if they are coached appropriately, they could be very good in 2 to 3 years.  And definitely better than any big men we have had here in quite awhile.  Add them to some extremely talented players in Junior, Maymon and Williams and we actually have a chance at a very good and very well rounded team.

yellow chickens

Three point shooting will still be a huge issue

77ncaachamps

Quote from: TVDirector on October 26, 2008, 08:30:33 AM
regardless, if Roseboro actually said 'litany of inquiries', then we got us a scholar-athlete!

Good point. Plus it sounds like he's a player.

I think we have ourselves someone who wants to be here and who we want. That's a win-win.

And I'm sure Maymon was asked about his opinion on this kid.
SS Marquette

nola03

Quote from: ATWizJr on October 25, 2008, 10:09:00 PM
Nola-your wine cooler ever half full?

The joke is always funnier when rooted in truth. If anything, my rep has been one of a person whose wine cooler is too full and overflowing.  ;)

There's nothing remotely negative in stating: a) labeling a center prospect a legit post option before they play is optimistic; b) it takes big men longer to develop; and, c) fans would like to see another developmental option at the 5 spot.

It's early days in getting to know Roseboro and no MU fan really has a good idea as to what he could bring to the table but I'm sure the more tidbits leak out, the more people will be impressed by his commitment. 

Big Papi

I see the need for another 5 but I don't see the need for another 5 who is raw being piggybacked on top of Otule and McMorrow.  A little spacing amongst the bigs is a good thing.  Buzz is playing the hand that was dealt to him and I feel is playing it very well.  I can see him taking another big for 2010 when Otule and McMorrow are Juniors and the freshmen big doesn't have to be thrown into the fire.  We had a much more pressing need at the 4 if Buzz doesn't feel like Hazel is a capable starter.

YoungMUFan4

Roseboro is a PF from everything I have read.

TallTitan34

I heard Roseboro saying he was a 3 or 4.  The 3 really surprised me but 4 makes sense.

YoungMUFan4

Yeah he supposedly grew 5-6" recently so he has a perimeter game.  I see him as a European style big (being able to face up and hit the 15-17 ft jumper)

nyg

Well at least he is now mentioned on the Scout site.  A one star. 

avid1010

If TC were the coach right now, I'd hate this choice as his late recruit bigs never amounted to much, but I'm willing to give Buzz and his staff time to prove that they can find talent and develop big men.  I always felt like TC's obsession with guards was a ploy that guaranteed job security, and with him leaving for IU, he just needed to stay competitive long enough to move on to a school where he felt it would be easier to recruit.  Having a boat load of quality guards will always allow you to be competitive, but rarely allow you to be a championship contender.  Buzz seems to realize that, and if he can prove that he can develop big men he'll see more polished high school bigs willing to come to MU.  I have to believe if he can develop the bigs MU has signed right now the program will be much improved from an already good product that TC left us.   

HarryBalczak

Quote from: nola03 on October 26, 2008, 02:16:33 PM
It's early days in getting to know Roseboro and no MU fan really has a good idea as to what he could bring to the table but I'm sure the more tidbits leak out, the more people will be impressed by his commitment. 

You are wrong NOLA.  One MU alum has an idea.

I had read about Roseboro in September on the NYCHoops Rivals site, but was only looking for Maymon's results, so I didn't pay a ton of attention to Brett even though he had 27 points against James Padgett (Maryland) and Lance Stephenson.

It wasn't until someone sent me an email saying an MU alum from New York had gone to Maymon's IS8 game in late September and watched Roseboro go head to head with Jeronne that I became real aware of him.  The alum has been around the NYC games for decades and has been critical of some of Crean's recruits when he's seen them at the ABCD Camp.  He was not only intrigued by Roseboro, but he endorsed the idea that MU go out and offer him and 4 weeks later his wish came true. 

Kramerica

ESPN has updated with a profile of Roseboro.  They have him rated as an 86 overall and the number 69 PF in the class.   

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?page=onthetrail&recruitId=73690

Personally, I think that we need all the bigs we can get and like the signing. 

mwbauer7

"80-89: Player has the potential to start or significantly contribute as a freshman for most top national Division I programs."

" Brett Roseboro is a big bodied insider that has really come a long way in a short period of time. 9 months ago Brett was a low to mid-major Division I recruit. He had a solid summer then had a couple of big games in New York's IS8 fall league. Those performances caused many high majors to come calling. Brett is solid basketball athlete with a good body. He can bang inside and scores mostly off putbacks and dump offs. He has decent touch out to 15 feet. He has some versatility in that he play on the low block or in the high post. Defensively he does a pretty good job of clogging the lane with his big body. He is not a shotblocker but is a solid position defender. If Brett can continue to improve he can be solid contributor at Marquette and have a significant role. " from http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?page=briefingroom&recruitId=73690


If this seems to be the consensus on him, them I'm good with the signing.

bma725

Quote from: Kramerica on October 27, 2008, 09:43:35 AM
ESPN has updated with a profile of Roseboro.  They have him rated as an 86 overall and the number 69 PF in the class.   

FWIW, that ranking is the same as Jordan Williams who recently chose Maryland over Marquette and is a Scout Top 100 player and #102 on Rivals.  It's ahead of Ray Turner who committed to Texas A&M over MU and was a player many wanted at MU.

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muwarrior87

Quote from: marqptm on October 27, 2008, 11:11:19 AM
A ginger...gross...

maybe we can use that to our advantage when we play ND. they'll get confused and keep passing him the ball.

NotAnAlum

How can he be the 86th ranked player in the class but only the 69th best power forward?  Unless we are misinterpreting the number 86 as it is listed as a grade.

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