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Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

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Quote from: Shaka Shart on August 01, 2025, 11:48:50 AMTheir enemy is Hamas, but how can one tell the difference between a Gazan and Hamas?

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Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 01, 2025, 11:29:29 AMWith thinking like this the Nazis would still be running Germany and most of Europe. The Japanese warlords would control large swaths of the Asian Pacific. Perhaps we should have negotiated a peace in instead of declaring war on the Japanese after they attacked us. After all we don't want to over react and commit genocide despite losing 2000 sailors at Pearl Harbor.

Edit: nm.  This "fell asleep in my chair watching the History Channel, I ignore the lessons of any war between 1945 and now" stuff isn't worth engaging with.

The Sultan

Quote from: JWags85 on August 01, 2025, 12:26:23 PMI had started a post about this the other day and got sidetracked.  This discussion has gotten wild and absurd, but unless I'm mistaken, everyone in here supports Israel's right to exist and if a post-Bibi, non Likud dominated Israeli government ceased hostilities and aggression and worked toward a sustainable coexistence with the Palestinians, most of the negativity toward Israel as a state/entity would evaporate and dissipate.

Israel has a right to exist. Most serious people know this.

But we have Scoopers here who will turn a blind eye to whatever Israel has done, and even one who puts "Palestinians" in quotes for whatever reason.

Maybe its because we are trying to jusitfy why we caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people in two countries in response to 9/11 or something, but we have lost all semblance of what a proportionate response should be. I guess because people who think that since we were successful in Japan that therefore that should be our response to everything?

Being attacked doesn't mean you have a blank check with your response. There are all sorts of ways why that not only just realistically doesn't work, but it is morally wrong.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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