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#275
Quote from: Viper on October 01, 2024, 07:47:52 AM
Al 'was just a coach' is your most ignorant statement yet...and that's saying something.
Unbelievable stupidity.

To Marquette he was obviously more than that.

But in the wider world of college basketball, Al McGuire was a coach. A colorful coach, but a coach nevertheless. And like all coaches, the sport keeps going when they are gone.

You started this when you said Nick Saban retired cause he didn't want to coach in this environment. As if that's somehow a detriment to the sport of college football. It isn't. Coaches come and go and the game goes on.

Too often we heap praise on a coach beyond their coaching abilities. You see it with the Coach K commercials where he talks about "leadership" and other nonsense. Dude, you spent 40 years as a basketball coach for 18-22 year olds. Don't make it more than that.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 01, 2024, 07:52:41 AM
To Marquette he was obviously more than that.

But in the wider world of college basketball, Al McGuire was a coach. A colorful coach, but a coach nevertheless. And like all coaches, the sport keeps going when they are gone.

You started this when you said Nick Saban retired cause he didn't want to coach in this environment. As if that's somehow a detriment to the sport of college football. It isn't. Coaches come and go and the game goes on.

Too often we heap praise on a coach beyond their coaching abilities. You see it with the Coach K commercials where he talks about "leadership" and other nonsense. Dude, you spent 40 years as a basketball coach for 18-22 year olds. Don't make it more than that.

Let's not lose track of the key point, Al would have been pro-NIL
The Google old days

Viper

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 01, 2024, 08:05:27 AM
Let's not lose track of the key point, Al would have been pro-NIL
I don't disagree. I think AL had a tipping point re:NIL, but taking care of players I do agree.
Better dead, than RED

Lennys Tap

Quote from: dgies9156 on September 30, 2024, 08:28:04 PM
Just a coach?

I suppose Jesus was just a god.

The Wright Brothers were just bicycle mechanics.

Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were just electronic junkies.

George Washington was just a President?

Al was AL!!!! He's the reason Marquette is more than a local university on the shores of Lake Michigan. He brought us attention, contributions and reputation.

Shake, we hope, will someday be SHAKA!!!!! too!

Sultan is just a guy with a keyboard.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 01, 2024, 07:52:41 AM
To Marquette he was obviously more than that.

But in the wider world of college basketball, Al McGuire was a coach. A colorful coach, but a coach nevertheless. And like all coaches, the sport keeps going when they are gone.

You started this when you said Nick Saban retired cause he didn't want to coach in this environment. As if that's somehow a detriment to the sport of college football. It isn't. Coaches come and go and the game goes on.

Too often we heap praise on a coach beyond their coaching abilities. You see it with the Coach K commercials where he talks about "leadership" and other nonsense. Dude, you spent 40 years as a basketball coach for 18-22 year olds. Don't make it more than that.
"Dust in the wind
All we are is dust in the wind
"

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 27, 2024, 10:08:28 PM
Lens
I think the "most pro NIL coach of all time" may be a stretch but you're right that Al always encouraged his players to take care of themselves and their families first. Use basketball, don't let it use you was his motto. For most, that meant using their time at MU to get the degree that meant success once their eligibility ended. For the elite, it sometimes meant leaving early and taking the money.

Pro NIL? Yes, with one caveat. Al was a dictator, and if he saw the money interfering with his unquestioned authority it would have given him pause.

Accurate.

forgetful

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/43471646/wisconsin-alleges-miami-tampered-xavier-lucas-transfer

Wonder what this case will mean for the future of NIL.

1. It appears some institutions (UW in this case) will force athletes to sign a multi-year contract that is binding, which would not allow any transfers.

If this holds up, we could see some interesting contracts in the future, maybe conditions for playing time etc. eligibility, etc.

2. Will the NCAA punish clear tampering in this case.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: forgetful on January 18, 2025, 08:39:47 PMhttps://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/43471646/wisconsin-alleges-miami-tampered-xavier-lucas-transfer

Wonder what this case will mean for the future of NIL.

1. It appears some institutions (UW in this case) will force athletes to sign a multi-year contract that is binding, which would not allow any transfers.

If this holds up, we could see some interesting contracts in the future, maybe conditions for playing time etc. eligibility, etc.

2. Will the NCAA punish clear tampering in this case.
A cautionary tale for players considering Wisky.

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