Active Shooter At Madison School

[Hards Alumni]

I intentionally did not include millennials because most who I know do not share the same degree of cynicism and apathy as the generations that follow. This is just my anecdotal observation, but millennials still have a degree of optimism.

Yeah, that's anecdotal for sure.

[pbiflyer]

The self-justification to take other lives is the utterly horrifying aspect.

Kind of like when health insurance companies deny life-saving treatment?

[Uncle Rico]

Kind of like when health insurance companies deny life-saving treatment?

NCMU isn't wrong.  The casual disregard for human life has always been prevalent in our society.  There are a lot of tangents about that but the one that always makes me chuckle is when certain folks like to say how we're a Christian society and our nation was founded on its principles.  That's never been the case.

[tower912]

I will disagree with that.  The dissonance comes in through defining Christian principles.  The Pilgrims and Puritans were following Christian principles by their lights.  Conversely, they were persecuted in Europe because everybody else thought they were a-holes.
  And, even then, and perhaps even more then, people used religion as a wedge, a crutch to influence their followers into doing things that had nothing to do with the teachings of Jesus.

[NCMUFan]

Kind of like when health insurance companies deny life-saving treatment?

I am not a health insurance company CEO or someone that needs a life-saving treatment that was denied.
If you want to defend Luigi go ahead.

[pbiflyer]

I am not a health insurance company CEO or someone that needs a life-saving treatment that was denied.
If you want to defend Luigi go ahead.

I'm not, I am just saying that those that do judge him should apply that measure on everyone. Killing is killing no matter how it is done.

[4everwarriors]

The breakdown of the American family plays heavily into the behavior of today's adults and youth. The proliferation, prevalence, and acceptance of illicit drugs and alcohol contributes greatly to the actions of the user as well. I agree with the opinion that Elton John recently expressed, hey?

[The Sultan]

The breakdown of the American family plays heavily into the behavior of today's adults and youth. The proliferation, prevalence, and acceptance of illicit drugs and alcohol contributes greatly to the actions of the user as well. I agree with the opinion that Elton John recently expressed, hey?

<sigh>

[MUBurrow]

Add millennials to the top of that.  We came of age during 9/11 and the Iraq/Afghanistan wars... and then got to experience the Great Recession directly afterward.  Our "HOPE" was Obama and he was sort of just a regular Democrat. 

I intentionally did not include millennials because most who I know do not share the same degree of cynicism and apathy as the generations that follow. This is just my anecdotal observation, but millennials still have a degree of optimism.

IMO millennials are on their way to joining Gen Z/Alpha on this. The DNC rigging the game against Bernie in 2016, the refusal to acknowledge an obviously impaired Biden until zero hour, and the ethical contradiction of a Trump-led republican party aren't doing anything to nurture millennial optimism.

[The Sultan]

IMO millennials are on their way to joining Gen Z/Alpha on this. The DNC rigging the game against Bernie in 2016, the refusal to acknowledge an obviously impaired Biden until zero hour, and the ethical contradiction of a Trump-led republican party aren't doing anything to nurture millennial optimism.

Hey, that's cool. As I said, it was simply anecdotal.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

The breakdown of the American family plays heavily into the behavior of today's adults and youth. The proliferation, prevalence, and acceptance of illicit drugs and alcohol contributes greatly to the actions of the user as well. I agree with the opinion that Elton John recently expressed, hey?

Maybe having a family all but requiring a dual income household to live comfortably has something to do with that. Drug and alcohol use among teens and young adults is way lower than prior generations.

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2024/12/18/drug-alcohol-use-low-us-teens/8521734530844/

[Uncle Rico]

The breakdown of the American family plays heavily into the behavior of today's adults and youth. The proliferation, prevalence, and acceptance of illicit drugs and alcohol contributes greatly to the actions of the user as well. I agree with the opinion that Elton John recently expressed, hey?

The breakdown of the American family in the 21st century is no less or more unique than it was in any previous generation.  It's part of why the Industrial Revolution was able to exploit child labor.  This is a tired cliche and crutch.

[jesmu84]

Maybe having a family all but requiring a dual income household to live comfortably has something to do with that. Drug and alcohol use among teens and young adults is way lower than prior generations.

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2024/12/18/drug-alcohol-use-low-us-teens/8521734530844/

Not now with your facts.


Let the old man cook

[jesmu84]

The self-justification to take other lives is the utterly horrifying aspect.

The US has been doing that overseas for decades.

[NCMUFan]

In the Madison school shooting case, Natalie Rupnow was a new student completing her first semester.  Does not appear to fit the picked-on student getting their revenge.
Something much deeper.  Appears she was communicating with a California adult that she let take her into a very dark place.

[MUBurrow]

Hey, that's cool. As I said, it was simply anecdotal.

Pretty sure its against the rules to correctly cite observations as anecdotal on scoop.

[tower912]

Ah, sepia tinged hindsight.  Boomers practically invented recreational drug use.  And did a fine job of breaking down the family on their own.   

[Uncle Rico]

Ah, sepia tinged hindsight.  Boomers practically invented recreational drug use.  And did a fine job of breaking down the family on their own.   

It's why that generation is terrified of history being taught to children.  It isn't good

[Hards Alumni]

In the Madison school shooting case, Natalie Rupnow was a new student completing her first semester.  Does not appear to fit the picked-on student getting their revenge.
Something much deeper.  Appears she was communicating with a California adult that she let take her into a very dark place.

Her manifesto states she was picked on.

On December 17, Barnes told news reporters that investigators are looking into a "combination of factors," including the possibility that Rupnow had been bullied.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

The US has been doing that overseas for decades.

Yeah but they're a different skin color

[Spotcheck Billy]

The breakdown of the American family plays heavily into the behavior of today's adults and youth. The proliferation, prevalence, and acceptance of illicit drugs and alcohol contributes greatly to the actions of the user as well. I agree with the opinion that Elton John recently expressed, hey?

What was the divorce rate for the boomer generation again?

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Not now with your facts.


Let the old man cook

[Jay Bee]

Her manifesto states she was picked on.

On December 17, Barnes told news reporters that investigators are looking into a "combination of factors," including the possibility that Rupnow had been bullied.

We should believe everything she has said!

[BM1090]

Hopefully this doesn't get taken as political. I don't mean it that way.

But it is clear that there is a bit of a culture shift, particularly with young individuals. They seem disillusioned with the US culture, and want to see disruption/chaos and will openly lobby/vote for anything they see as possibly causing dirsuption/chaos. The extremes in this group want to see the whole system burn to the ground.

These particular people find the Unabomber intriguing and are going back and reading his manifesto and finding a like-minded individual. It is scary.

The reverence for the Unabomber and for similar individuals is disturbing.

The desire for disruption is understandable. It's the only thing that has ever resulted in meaningful change in this country and frankly, change is needed.