1.9 seconds left question

[mix it up]

With 1.9 seconds left on an inbounds play why isn't the ball thrown down the other end of the court? We could foul them? Can't argue with the results but jw....

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[Scoop Snoop]

With 1.9 seconds left on an inbounds play why isn't the ball thrown down the other end of the court? We could foul them? Can't argue with the results but jw....

Asking for a friend   

It's what I was expecting also. But I was expecting a W as well. One out of two isn't bad.

[#UnleashSean]

If no one is open down low the ball should go to 1/2 or 3/4 deep. That pass should never have happened.

However that isn't fool proof. See Vander blues layup in the tournament for reference.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

Maybe because that was what everyone expected   Instead get the ball into a shooters hands

[Litehouse]

In theory, maybe, but if something horrible happens and the ball goes out of bounds with noone touching it, then Creighton gets the ball under their own hoop.  Also, if it's a long pass with multiple players going for it in the air, there's a chance the refs call a foul on MU and Creighton goes to the line.

[Its DJOver]

In theory, maybe, but if something horrible happens and the ball goes out of bounds with noone touching it, then Creighton gets the ball under their own hoop.  Also, if it's a long pass with multiple players going for it in the air, there's a chance the refs call a foul on MU and Creighton goes to the line.

When has that ever happened at Creighton?

[JakeBarnes]

Didn't know where to put this, but here seems to be the spot.

Lots of fans of Creighton don't think there was a foul on inbound. But when shown evidence did think a foul happened before the ball was inbounded..

Rules people help me out: wasn't calling a reach a benefit to Creighton rather than calling it before inbounds? IIRC, i thought the rules were that the wrap up before a ball is inbounded could be considered an intentional foul (or whatever they call it now--flagrant 1), which would be 2 shots and ball. The actual game result was better for them if that's true.

[Its DJOver]

Didn't know where to put this, but here seems to be the spot.

Lots of fans of Creighton don't think there was a foul on inbound. But when shown evidence did think a foul happened before the ball was inbounded..

Rules people help me out: wasn't calling a reach a benefit to Creighton rather than calling it before inbounds? IIRC, i thought the rules were that the wrap up before a ball is inbounded could be considered an intentional foul (or whatever they call it now--flagrant 1), which would be 2 shots and ball. The actual game result was better for them if that's true.

I believe that its possible to call a common foul before the ball is inbounded (I believe this happened at the home game against X this year).  However, time came off the clock so I that shouldn't have been the case in this scenario.  I'm unsure what exactly was called, but it was a foul no doubt.

[Tyler COLEk]

I thought Nembhard and the other Creighton player guarding close the baseline (Scheierman?) seemed comfortable getting a tick-tack whistle before time ran off the clock. Nembhard's in particular was a very clear foul.

I think Creighton has a better gripe with the Kalkbrenner-Omax call moments earlier.

[mileskishnish72]

When has that ever happened at Creighton?

Good one, DJO.

[CountryRoads]

Right when I saw the setup I thought Kolek was going to break to the basket and Oso was going to throw deep.

Here is the play:
https://twitter.com/elihershkovich/status/1628242432755105793?s=46&t=7-kuA1TgdmeQk9EGq28ovg

MU is racking up a bit of experience with the close late game situations though which is good.

[bilsu]

I think the big risk of throwing it long is it goes out of bounds untouched and then Creighton gets the ball under their basket.

[DoctorV]

The way I would do it is to throw directly to someone at or beyond half court in the center of the court.

You can't risk ball going directly OOB, you can't risk a steal or turnover under the basket.

If the half court pass gets picked off at worst the opposing team gets a prayer from half court for a win.
I'd also tell my players if they can't catch it to just deflect it away from the basket they would be defending

[NickelDimer]

I think the big risk of throwing it long is it goes out of bounds untouched and then Creighton gets the ball under their basket.

This

[JakeBarnes]

I think the big risk of throwing it long is it goes out of bounds untouched and then Creighton gets the ball under their basket.

You can't tempt the basketball gods and give Creighton the chance to revenge the Hauser shot.

[#UnleashSean]

I think Creighton has a better gripe with the Kalkbrenner-Omax call moments earlier.

That call was 100 percent a make up from osos terrible foul call moments before that.

The refs were bad. Make up calls are worse.

[#UnleashSean]

The way I would do it is to throw directly to someone at or beyond half court in the center of the court.

You can't risk ball going directly OOB, you can't risk a steal or turnover under the basket.

If the half court pass gets picked off at worst the opposing team gets a prayer from half court for a win.
I'd also tell my players if they can't catch it to just deflect it away from the basket they would be defending

You want everyone's momentum to be going towards marquettes hoop. That's the big thing.

[BallBoy]

The way I would do it is to throw directly to someone at or beyond half court in the center of the court.

You can't risk ball going directly OOB, you can't risk a steal or turnover under the basket.

If the half court pass gets picked off at worst the opposing team gets a prayer from half court for a win.
I'd also tell my players if they can't catch it to just deflect it away from the basket they would be defending

Center court is the best spot/angle to shoot a long shot for three and if it goes over that persons hands it goes oob on the other end which was what happened with the Hauser shot.

I think the best play is get the ball to the player who is open and can shoot FTs regardless of where they are. You have to assume a foul.

If you watch the replay Nembhardt had Jones wrapped up around the waist and pulled on him as the ball was getting inbounded. It was a foul. May not get called regularly but absolutely will when foul is expected and altered the inbounds play.

[We R Final Four]

Nembhard with the reach around.

[cheebs09]

I think a pass to Kolek also would have resulted in a foul called.

[Heisenberg]

I think the big risk of throwing it long is it goes out of bounds untouched and then Creighton gets the ball under their basket.

Yes, because MU fans have never seen that happen before with less than 2 seconds at Creighton!

[tower912]

BTW, who noticed the new out of bounds play to end the first half?

Sean as a decoy near the hashmark.  He took one step and stopped.

Gold running from the top of the key to midcourt. Kolek throws him the ball and takes off on a sprint.  Gold catches it and gives it back to Kolek going full speed above the top of the opposite key.   Kolek got a look from about 25 feet.

[Judge Smails]

Yeah, really liked that play. Too bad it didn't fall.