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The Sultan

I've said this many times....

If they had gotten rid of the native imagery when they got rid of Willie Wampum, Marquette would still be Warriors today.  The University's well intentioned desire to stick with such imagery in a "respectful" manner is why the name went away.

And I used to be fired about it. But I stopped caring awhile ago. It's been a generation - time to move on.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Pakuni on October 19, 2022, 09:21:23 AM
Whether the university botched the name change (it did) doesn't make the name change bad.
And if it were the way the admin handled this that were the "real" issue here, nobody would be here discussing it today. The university has messed up lots of things over the past three decades. This is the only one people still obsess over.
I mean, when was the last time you read the name Assata Shakur here? Where's the "x years ago today" posts about Jodi O'Brien?

If there is on tradition MU has is that as a university we don't have actual traditions.

At least we didn't have to move a rock. We've go that going for us.
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rocket surgeon

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on October 19, 2022, 09:42:07 AM
I've said this many times....

If they had gotten rid of the native imagery when they got rid of Willie Wampum, Marquette would still be Warriors today.  The University's well intentioned desire to stick with such imagery in a "respectful" manner is why the name went away.

And I used to be fired about it. But I stopped caring awhile ago. It's been a generation - time to move on.

  my assumption is that MU has some pretty smart people ("experts") making decisions, yes?  if they really wanted to keep the nickname, as the majority seemed to voice, then why didn't they just change the imagery? 

   i'm going to answer that one pat, for $100-why MU (ivory tower) did not want to keep the warrior nickname.  that is why this topic continues to be discussed.  the "unwashed" did NOT want the name changed while the "experts" had already made their decision. 

    so the "experts" put it to a vote in a (dog & pony)show of (sheecogo style) "democracy".  i may be wrong, but despite them not even putting warriors on the ballot, i believe the write-ins-warriors won anyway.  might as well have voted in person and dipped our fingers in purple ink.  hey, sadam, putin and kim jong-unfatso have never lost an election either, eyn'a?

     and that is the rest of the story
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Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on October 20, 2022, 05:30:23 AM
  my assumption is that MU has some pretty smart people ("experts") making decisions, yes?  if they really wanted to keep the nickname, as the majority seemed to voice, then why didn't they just change the imagery? 

   i'm going to answer that one pat, for $100-why MU (ivory tower) did not want to keep the warrior nickname.  that is why this topic continues to be discussed.  the "unwashed" did NOT want the name changed while the "experts" had already made their decision. 

    so the "experts" put it to a vote in a (dog & pony)show of (sheecogo style) "democracy".  i may be wrong, but despite them not even putting warriors on the ballot, i believe the write-ins-warriors won anyway.  might as well have voted in person and dipped our fingers in purple ink.  hey, sadam, putin and kim jong-unfatso have never lost an election either, eyn'a?

     and that is the rest of the story

This is such incredible work.  Yet, I can't give it a 10 out of 10 due to lack of any ellipsis.  So, it'll be a 9 out of 10.
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The Sultan

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on October 20, 2022, 05:30:23 AM
  my assumption is that MU has some pretty smart people ("experts") making decisions, yes?  if they really wanted to keep the nickname, as the majority seemed to voice, then why didn't they just change the imagery? 

Because 30 years ago, Marquette wasn't being run by pretty smart people who wanted to keep the nickname.
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BrewCity83

What about the rumor that someone (Potawotami?) offered a large payment and some land (Valley Fields) to MU in exchange for the promise to drop the Warriors name forever?  That story keeps coming up, but is it true?
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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: BrewCity83 on October 20, 2022, 05:03:55 PM
What about the rumor that someone (Potawotami?) offered a large payment and some land (Valley Fields) to MU in exchange for the promise to drop the Warriors name forever?  That story keeps coming up, but is it true?

that's always been out there and hasn't (and probably never will be) confirmed.  The more likely story, which I read in an article about mascot changes in the MULS Sports Law Review, is the Native Americans the Jesuits worked with on a reservation in South Dakota expressed their opinion that the use of "Warrior" was offensive to the NA population and that's what was the what spurred Fr. DiUlio and other MU leaders to make the change.
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Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: BrewCity83 on October 20, 2022, 05:03:55 PM
What about the rumor that someone (Potawotami?) offered a large payment and some land (Valley Fields) to MU in exchange for the promise to drop the Warriors name forever?  That story keeps coming up, but is it true?

#donedeal

And they continue to swap properties to this day.

Newsdreams

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 20, 2022, 05:12:19 PM
that's always been out there and hasn't (and probably never will be) confirmed.  The more likely story, which I read in an article about mascot changes in the MULS Sports Law Review, is the Native Americans the Jesuits worked with on a reservation in South Dakota expressed their opinion that the use of "Warrior" was offensive to the NA population and that's what was the what spurred Fr. DiUlio and other MU leaders to make the change.
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