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Frenns Liquor Depot

Based on how these things are ripping around the world, it's going to keep happening. Maybe with more speed with all the spread from Omicron. 

I just hope the bad ones can't out-compete the ones dominating now.

GB Warrior

It's luck of the draw, but this is going to keep happening for the virus to make itself more transmissible. Just have to hope that it makes its less impactful in doing so, while not giving up on forcing vaccination. You have to get to the sweet spot where the increased transmission doesn't overwhelm the hospital system (because it's less severe and/or because vaccinated people are getting it and not getting sick).

We'll need several more weeks worth of data before it's worth panicking

MU Fan in Connecticut

Omicron seems to spreading so fast and so widespread it seems like it's going to kill itself out quickly.

Bad while it's happening now, but good in the long run, no?

forgetful

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on January 04, 2022, 02:42:02 PM
Omicron seems to spreading so fast and so widespread it seems like it's going to kill itself out quickly.

Bad while it's happening now, but good in the long run, no?

Possibly, but we will still need to see what Omicron does for disease severity of other strains. Does it reduce the likelihood of infection via delta or other versions, does it decrease the severity of these other illnesses.

I'm optimistic it does, which means we are closer to a point where we may be entering a new normal.

Related: Life expectancies dropped by 2-years due to all the COVID deaths.

Warriors4ever

The article says the first person identified in France seems to have been someone who returned from Cameroon.
Honestly is there any really urgent reason why so many people have to travel all over the place?  Speaking out of sheer frustration. 

reinko

Seems a bit fear-mongery at this point, since this sequence has actually been around since Nov, before Omicron.

https://www.newsweek.com/ihu-covid-variant-b-1-640-2-mutations-identified-france-1665299

One of my gotos for more balanced and fact-based approaches.

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1478130286072410118?s=21

mu_hilltopper

Quote from: reinko on January 04, 2022, 07:38:56 PM
Seems a bit fear-mongery at this point, since this sequence has actually been around since Nov, before Omicron.

https://www.newsweek.com/ihu-covid-variant-b-1-640-2-mutations-identified-france-1665299

One of my gotos for more balanced and fact-based approaches.

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1478130286072410118?s=21

Quit raining on our fear parade.

JWags85

Quote from: Warriors4ever on January 04, 2022, 06:33:00 PM
The article says the first person identified in France seems to have been someone who returned from Cameroon.
Honestly is there any really urgent reason why so many people have to travel all over the place?  Speaking out of sheer frustration.

Because most people have largely been confined to their home countries or local areas for 2 years.  They were vaccinated and want to see family they may not have seen for multiple years (assuming given Cameroon's French history and number of immigrants from there in France).  I get frustration with people not being vaxxed, but not at people living their lives.

The Sultan

Quote from: Warriors4ever on January 04, 2022, 06:33:00 PM
The article says the first person identified in France seems to have been someone who returned from Cameroon.
Honestly is there any really urgent reason why so many people have to travel all over the place?  Speaking out of sheer frustration. 

People are going to travel. Containing it by forcing people to not go anywhere is a futile effort.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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