Moving on

[The Sultan]

Doesn't stability feel good?
Change for change sake is the life of a loser.

No one is advocating change for change sake.

[vogue65]

No one is advocating change for change sake.

No, change looking for the Holy Grale, good luck.

Leadership is overrated.
Important, part of an organization, but not the only part.

O.K., what about the rest of my post?
You know, coach speak, you've seen one you've seen them all?
You've seen one Gunny Sergeant you've seen them all?

For a University that has demonstrated a long term track record of picking problematic coaches, I'd say give it up.   Let's try something different like loyalty, patience, and support. 

I know lots of guys who are on their third wife and have yet to find whatever it is they are looking for.

You are right, it's not change for change sake, there is always a case to be made.

Enjoy the game tonight, win or lose Georgetown has an identity, a clear hisory, a leniage, good for them.  Georgetown knows who Georgetown is and that has taken time.  Players come and players go, but the tradition lives on. 

At some places the coaches come and the coaches go and there never is a real tradition. Unless turnover isv a tradition.

Marquette has been like the guy who buys lottery tickets waiting for his ship to come in.  Lightening in a bottle, ha.  As I said, the Holy Grale.

[79Warrior]

"For a University that has demonstrated a long term track record of picking problematic coaches, I'd say give it up"

Really? How many truly "bad hires" have there been?  Dukiet and Deane come to mind. Who else?

[The Sultan]

"For a University that has demonstrated a long term track record of picking problematic coaches, I'd say give it up"

Really? How many truly "bad hires" have there been?  Dukiet and Deane come to mind. Who else?

I wouldn't even say Deane was THAT bad. I think Majerus wasn't a great hire. That would have been a good time for a fresh start.

[Silent Verbal]

No, change looking for the Holy Grale, good luck.

Leadership is overrated.
Important, part of an organization, but not the only part.

O.K., what about the rest of my post?
You know, coach speak, you've seen one you've seen them all?
You've seen one Gunny Sergeant you've seen them all?

For a University that has demonstrated a long term track record of picking problematic coaches, I'd say give it up.   Let's try something different like loyalty, patience, and support. 

I know lots of guys who are on their third wife and have yet to find whatever it is they are looking for.

You are right, it's not change for change sake, there is always a case to be made.

Enjoy the game tonight, win or lose Georgetown has an identity, a clear hisory, a leniage, good for them.  Georgetown knows who Georgetown is and that has taken time.  Players come and players go, but the tradition lives on. 

At some places the coaches come and the coaches go and there never is a real tradition. Unless turnover isv a tradition.

Marquette has been like the guy who buys lottery tickets waiting for his ship to come in.  Lightening in a bottle, ha.  As I said, the Holy Grale.

Marquette has a long term track record of picking problematic coaches?  What?  To quote a character from the movie Grandma's Boy, "Your beef is wrong, bro."  I mean, that character said "beef" in reference to a smelly fart, but since your post was the equivalent of that, I think we're all on the same page.

Buzz recruited some kids who got into trouble, and he was run off for it.  Other than that, who are these "problematic coaches" you're referring to?  O'Neill liked to use foul language, Deane enjoyed having a taste after games.  If we want to hire a coach who doesn't drink or swear, we may as well promote the team chaplain.

[cheebs09]

I'm not thrilled with the Wojo era, but I don't think I'd trade places with Georgetown right now. They haven't done much the last decade and I don't think Ewing is the answer.

[DoctorV]

I know lots of guys who are on their third wife and have yet to find whatever it is they are looking for.

You friends with our President? He did that and stumbled into the White House, maybe that's what he was looking for?

[vogue65]

Marquette has a long term track record of picking problematic coaches?  What?  To quote a character from the movie Grandma's Boy, "Your beef is wrong, bro."  I mean, that character said "beef" in reference to a smelly fart, but since your post was the equivalent of that, I think we're all on the same page.

Buzz recruited some kids who got into trouble, and he was run off for it.  Other than that, who are these "problematic coaches" you're referring to?  O'Neill liked to use foul language, Deane enjoyed having a taste after games.  If we want to hire a coach who doesn't drink or swear, we may as well promote the team chaplain.

Yes, every coach had his "issue" that is my point.

How about Rick Majerus or coach Raymonds?
Was Tom Crean a lucky pick?  Or was it a player?
How is Indiana doing with the coaching merry-go-round?
We seem sometimes to pick winners who we don't recognize as winners.

It is hard to ferret out the real underlining reason for the attitude shown by so many here who attack our current coach.  I think it a systemic problem.

Al knew that Marquette was not a Blue Chipper.  We aspire to that status and I think we have all the pieces in place to reach it.   

For example, Villanova was not created in a day, Rollie Massimino notwithstanding.  Like Georgetown they have lineage.
   
It takes time to build a coach just like it takes time to build a sustainable program.
Turnover has a very steep price.

Throwing money at the problem is not the answer.

Hay, can the team chaplin coach?

[vogue65]

I know lots of guys who are on their third wife and have yet to find whatever it is they are looking for.

You friends with our President? He did that and stumbled into the White House, maybe that's what he was looking for?

Ha, we are not allowed to talk politics here it gets quickly nasty.
However, he is my neighbor in New Jersey, about 3 miles away.
I never met him, we don't travel in the same circles.

[coachJ4prez]

#donedeal? Alexa thinks so this morning...

[TVDirector]

If I lived in Jersey, I'd be looking to move in as well.

Yeah, it did kinda suck waking from a beach nap and surfing the afternoon through. 
🙄

[79Warrior]

"Al knew that Marquette was not a Blue Chipper"

Really? Sure seems like we were there when he was coaching. Perennial Top 10 in the 70's. Not many were better.

[Spotcheck Billy]

Lived in NC & MN besides WI

same job since 1989same wife since 1991
same house since 1992
same bicycle since 1977 (have another now too)
same stereo since 1982 (although augmented to 5.1 for movies)

[shoothoops]

I think a good question for the board would be, how many other places outside of Illinois and Wisconsin have you lived?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I think a good question for the board would be, how many other places outside of Illinois and Wisconsin have you lived?

5 (Washington [state], Minnesota, Michigan, Utah, and Texas). Spent 11 (non-consecutive) years in Wisconsin, 0 in Illinois, over 20 in other states.

[Galway Eagle]

I think a good question for the board would be, how many other places outside of Illinois and Wisconsin have you lived?

1

[shoothoops]

5 (Washington [state], Minnesota, Michigan, Utah, and Texas). Spent 11 (non-consecutive) years in Wisconsin, 0 in Illinois, over 20 in other states.

Since I asked the question...

In the U.S., New York, Virginia, Florida, California, Missouri, Tennessee, Texas, Georgia, Arizona, in addition to Illinois and Wisconsin.

I haven't spent time in every state, but the total is up there a bit.

[Billy Hoyle]

I wouldn't even say Deane was THAT bad. I think Majerus wasn't a great hire. That would have been a good time for a fresh start.

Deane wasn't great but he wasn't a bad hire either. NIT finals (lost on a very weak foul call), 2 NCAA tournaments, CUSA tourney title, and another NIT (just missed the NIT final four in 1998) in five years. I'm not saying he shouldn't have been fired (trajectory wasn't looking good) but he wasn't a "bad hire."

[Galway Eagle]

Deane wasn't great but he wasn't a bad hire either. NIT finals (lost on a very weak foul call), 2 NCAA tournaments, CUSA tourney title, and another NIT (just missed the NIT final four in 1998) in five years. I'm not saying he shouldn't have been fired (trajectory wasn't looking good) but he wasn't a "bad hire."

My understanding is the NIT finals year a big disappointment coming off a sweet 16 with senior Tony Miller and two future NBA players on the team.

[Billy Hoyle]

My understanding is the NIT finals year a big disappointment coming off a sweet 16 with senior Tony Miller and two future NBA players on the team.

maybe, others would know better since I was freshman that year. We lost three multi-year starters from the Sweet 16 team and replaced them with two relatively inexperienced sophomores (Pieper and Crawford) and Amal. I don't think many could have foreseen Crawford as a NBA player at that time. Hutch didn't really come on until later in the season either.

[The Sultan]

maybe, others would know better since I was freshman that year. We lost three multi-year starters from the Sweet 16 team and replaced them with two relatively inexperienced sophomores (Pieper and Crawford) and Amal. I don't think many could have foreseen Crawford as a NBA player at that time. Hutch didn't really come on until later in the season either.

Yeah I think everyone knew that a let down was inevitable.  An NIT sized letdown?  Maybe not, but the run in the NIT that year was fun.

[Billy Hoyle]

Yeah I think everyone knew that a let down was inevitable.  An NIT sized letdown?  Maybe not, but the run in the NIT that year was fun.

we started out well and then went through a rough patch in the middle of the season (save for a nationally televised win at Cincy) before finishing hot and building momentum for 95-96. At one point we had 7 of 8 games on the road.