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SaveOD238

If I'm Wojo, I'm not going to spend much time watching film of last night's game.  The first half was a mess (14 TOs) that we were lucky to weather.  The second half was a collapse.  It's not like the team doesn't know what they did wrong.

Instead, I'm having them re-watch games where we have come back to win and/or held on to a late lead.  Maybe Buffalo, or Georgetown, or Providence @ home, or Creighton (1st time).  Remind the team how they came back in those games and how to have the late game killer instinct.  They need a shot in the arm to remind them how they played when we were winning.

4everwarriors

Nah mon, ur missin' da big picture. Opposin' coaches have figured out how ta beet MU. Pressure Markus and heel turn it over. Put sum tall dudes on his ass and he kant get his shot up. Let da udder slow, finesse playas have der dey 'cuz dat won't get it dunn 'gainst quick, physical teems. Wojo duzant have an answer and his roster is limited in ability. Dat's da end of story, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

RushmoreAcademy

Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 07, 2019, 08:40:35 AM
Nah mon, ur missin' da big picture. Opposin' coaches have figured out how ta beet MU. Pressure Markus and heel turn it over. Put sum tall dudes on his ass and he kant get his shot up. Let da udder slow, finesse playas have der dey 'cuz dat won't get it dunn 'gainst quick, physical teems. Wojo duzant have an answer and his roster is limited in ability. Dat's da end of story, hey?


I don't want to admit this is true but it rings very true.   I'd like to think there are still adjustments to be made... improvements to be made..... maturity to be had...... I'm still holding out!!!!

nyg

Quote from: SaveOD238 on March 07, 2019, 08:34:30 AM
If I'm Wojo, I'm not going to spend much time watching film of last night's game. The first half was a mess (14 TOs) that we were lucky to weather.  The second half was a collapse.  It's not like the team doesn't know what they did wrong.

Instead, I'm having them re-watch games where we have come back to win and/or held on to a late lead.  Maybe Buffalo, or Georgetown, or Providence @ home, or Creighton (1st time).  Remind the team how they came back in those games and how to have the late game killer instinct.  They need a shot in the arm to remind them how they played when we were winning.

And the game before that and the game before that one.  Players have to just look in the mirror and say we have stunk the last three games and something has to change. 

connie

Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 07, 2019, 08:40:35 AM
Nah mon, ur missin' da big picture. Opposin' coaches have figured out how ta beet MU. Pressure Markus and heel turn it over. Put sum tall dudes on his ass and he kant get his shot up. Let da udder slow, finesse playas have der dey 'cuz dat won't get it dunn 'gainst quick, physical teems. Wojo duzant have an answer and his roster is limited in ability. Dat's da end of story, hey?
While you may well be right, I find it hard to believe that it took 24 games for opponents to figure this out.  There has to be something else to it.
"Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything Kent.  40% of all people know that."  HJS

MDMU04

Quote from: connie on March 07, 2019, 09:37:21 AM
While you may well be right, I find it hard to believe that it took 24 games for opponents to figure this out.  There has to be something else to it.

I think it's a combination of a lot of things.

For a good portion of the season, the poll rankings were somewhere around 10-15 spots ahead of the computer rankings. I think we're seeing the team regressing back to where pretty much all of the computer models said they would be.

Opponents game planning is another. We were winning lots of close games before the opponents defensive game plan that we're seeing now. The margin for error was bigger before when teams were letting Markus get his looks. Now they're pressing and it seems they are forcing a lot more turnovers. Handing the other team 18+ extra possessions every night is not a very good way to win games.

My eye also tells me the team defense and rebounding has gone the wrong direction of late. They don't seem to be getting big stops, or when they do force missed shots they're not getting defensive rebounds at the rate they were earlier in the year. I haven't seen the numbers to confirm, just a gut observation.
"They call me eccentric. They used to call me nuts. I haven't changed." - Al McGuire

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MDMU04 on March 07, 2019, 09:56:39 AM
My eye also tells me the team defense and rebounding has gone the wrong direction of late. They don't seem to be getting big stops, or when they do force missed shots they're not getting defensive rebounds at the rate they were earlier in the year. I haven't seen the numbers to confirm, just a gut observation.

Defense has done some its best work the past three games. Rebounding was a big issue in the Nova game, a small issue in the Creighton game, and a non-issue in the Hall game.

Problem has been turnovers and poise at the end of the game.
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Daniel

We've had three terrible games in a row, and we know what the opponent is going to do to stop us.   

What adjustments have we made on our end to counter what the opponent's do now?   Sacar is the best at bringing the ball up.   If Markus is doubled or has tall defenders on him, what adjustments can we make to get Sam, Joey, Brendan Sacar more involved st those moments?   

Seems like we should make adjustments in the game and between games.   Have we?   Just asking

StillWarriors

Quote from: Daniel on March 07, 2019, 10:14:48 AM
We've had three terrible games in a row, and we know what the opponent is going to do to stop us.   

What adjustments have we made on our end to counter what the opponent's do now?   Sacar is the best at bringing the ball up.   If Markus is doubled or has tall defenders on him, what adjustments can we make to get Sam, Joey, Brendan Sacar more involved st those moments?   

Seems like we should make adjustments in the game and between games.   Have we?   Just asking

I agree on using other guys to break full court pressure. The more the ball is in Sam's hands the better against the press. Breaking it with passes utilizing taller guys seems to be the best approach for us. We did that when Markus was out for several minutes and weren't turning the ball over. Sacar would dribble a bit then look upcourt to Sam or Joey, who could see over the traps and advance the ball again with a pass. As soon as Markus is in we try to have him dribble it up and he unfortunately seems to get trapped before attempting to move it elsewhere. Not trying to bash Markus, but clearly there is an issue that can't be ignored in terms of our approach to handling pressure, and his role in it. Film study, it seems to me, would be crucial and helpful in implementing changes and recognizing what we have to stop doing or the turnover factory will continue at full throttle.

NickelDimer

Quote from: Daniel on March 07, 2019, 10:14:48 AM
We've had three terrible games in a row, and we know what the opponent is going to do to stop us.   

What adjustments have we made on our end to counter what the opponent's do now?   Sacar is the best at bringing the ball up.   If Markus is doubled or has tall defenders on him, what adjustments can we make to get Sam, Joey, Brendan Sacar more involved st those moments?   

Seems like we should make adjustments in the game and between games.   Have we?   Just asking
Wojo's biggest test yet as a HC. He's struggled adjusting his game plans the last three games and he's struggled equally with managing his lineups. The rest of this season will be very telling
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tower912

Wojo's game plans the last 3 games have produced manageable leads through 35 minutes.   15 minutes that looked like the first 10 minutes of the Kansas game are the problem.    In all 3, MU could not get the big stop on defense and either stood around on offense or could not get the shot they needed.   Against Creighton, it was careless turnovers.    Last night, only one turnover, but too much standing around on offense.    Lots of settling for 3's.    And a left handed jump hook from Theo.   (an aside:   many people say they want the post players to get more touches on offense.   Was anyone actually happy they ran a play for Theo in the midst of SHU's run?   For me, that was the most disappointing play call)       A JjJ or Vander who have size and would attack the glass is what MU missed last night down the stretch.    (a second aside:    You could just see a month of frustration letting itself out as Joey finally got an angle and went flying in for the thunder dunk that could have been the dagger.    Then, he got bumped with no call, missed the dunk, and the avalanche picked up steam)

But that is what team has missed all year.    And Wojo was able to nurse this flawed team to a 23-4 record, including a 20-2 stretch.   
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Is film still a thing?

connie

I don't see how you blame a gameplan for getting a decent lead with minutes to go.  Lack of ability to stop the meltdown, ok, but in each of the past three games I was feeling like we had weathered the storm of turnovers and uninspired offense, taken the lead, and were ready to salt away the win--when it all went to sheeet.  I don't know what lead to the total inability to score at the end of the last three, but if there was some magic switch opponents could throw they would do that earlier in the game wouldn't they?  Obviously we need to change something up, and just as obviously, we haven't found whatever that is yet.
"Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything Kent.  40% of all people know that."  HJS

Mr. Sand-Knit

If im Wojo
I sit the team down for the film study and start with MUs first possesion.  Watch Theo set a solid ball screen and roll to the  front of the rim.  From there Markus is weakly double teamed and there is no one within 15 feet of Theo.  Sam stands in gaping astonishment of how fookin wide open Theo is as Markus rifles it to sam from 5 feet away.
Right then Wojo should pick up a chair or maybe a table and throw it thru the flat screen and adress Markus with.  "Pass the ball ball out  a fookin double team and just a hint but the most open player on the court is usually going to be the screener". Id then run them for 2 staright hours in silence.
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BM1090

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 07, 2019, 12:10:25 PM
If im Wojo
I sit the team down for the film study and start with MUs first possesion.  Watch Theo set a solid ball screen and roll to the  front of the rim.  From there Markus is weakly double teamed and there is no one within 15 feet of Theo.  Sam stands in gaping astonishment of how fookin wide open Theo is as Markus rifles it to sam from 5 feet away.
Right then Wojo should pick up a chair or maybe a table and throw it thru the flat screen and adress Markus with.  "Pass the ball ball out  a fookin double team and just a hint but the most open player on the court is usually going to be the screener". Id then run them for 2 staright hours in silence.

That'd work well for a team playing 3 games in 6 days.

barfolomew

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 07, 2019, 10:05:23 AM
Problem has been turnovers and poise at the end of the game.

Will they show Poise on Saturday? Depends. Last night was certainly no Assurance.
If they don't, I may soil my underwear though...
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Spaniel with a Short Tail

Should Sam be taking the ball out after a made basket? If not Sam, who?

willie warrior

Quote from: SaveOD238 on March 07, 2019, 08:34:30 AM
If I'm Wojo, I'm not going to spend much time watching film of last night's game.  The first half was a mess (14 TOs) that we were lucky to weather.  The second half was a collapse.  It's not like the team doesn't know what they did wrong.

Instead, I'm having them re-watch games where we have come back to win and/or held on to a late lead.  Maybe Buffalo, or Georgetown, or Providence @ home, or Creighton (1st time).  Remind the team how they came back in those games and how to have the late game killer instinct.  They need a shot in the arm to remind them how they played when we were winning.
Doubt if Wojo will be watching tape. he will be putting together a new power point to enhance his contract.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

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Willie never disappoints. Same material....but always there to kick Wojo when he's down.

1SE

Quote from: Daniel on March 07, 2019, 10:14:48 AM
We've had three terrible games in a row, and we know what the opponent is going to do to stop us.   

What adjustments have we made on our end to counter what the opponent's do now?   Sacar is the best at bringing the ball up.   If Markus is doubled or has tall defenders on him, what adjustments can we make to get Sam, Joey, Brendan Sacar more involved st those moments?   

Seems like we should make adjustments in the game and between games.   Have we?   Just asking

Yeah, I don't like the argument "other teams have figured us out" why haven't we figured them out?  They all have weaknesses too - why aren't we exploiting those? 
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Herman Cain

Quote from: 1SE on March 07, 2019, 08:23:13 PM
Yeah, I don't like the argument "other teams have figured us out" why haven't we figured them out?  They all have weaknesses too - why aren't we exploiting those?
It's like a rookie in baseball first time around the league does well second time his weaknesses are discovered. The beauty of the Big East double round robin format  is it forces teams to constantly improve. If they don't we see what happens.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

lawdog77

Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 07, 2019, 04:06:19 PM
Should Sam be taking the ball out after a made basket? If not Sam, who?
Markus.

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