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Started by KampusFoods, January 22, 2016, 04:00:04 PM

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Quote from: nyg on January 29, 2016, 02:56:04 PM
Can you imagine JJJ and Cohen playing power forward and going up against Reynolds, Copeland, Delgado, Bentil, and the other BE power forwards.




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Quote from: nyg on January 29, 2016, 02:56:04 PM
Can you imagine JJJ and Cohen playing power forward and going up against Reynolds, Copeland, Delgado, Bentil, and the other BE power forwards.  Oh my......

This is what scares me as well. I'll add in two more freshman who would be matchup nightmares: Omari Spellman (Nova) & Thon Maker (likely visiting St John's again).

I want MH. But wouldn't be disappointed if we missed & landed two athletic or thick PF/C types

KampusFoods

Quote from: We R Final Four on January 29, 2016, 03:00:59 PM
I agree he CAN improve especially on the offensive--and believe he will. He has very little defensive IQ and those concepts are much more difficult to grasp than an improved jump shot.

Yep. He mainly just goes for steals. Gets them sometimes, but when he doesn't he fouls or gets beat.

brewcity77

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on January 29, 2016, 02:47:28 PM
Traci looks the part, but the game is too fast for him right now.  It reminds me of Vander freshman and sophomore year where he knew what to do but could never finish.  Believe me Traci is not ready to be the starting PG - but I dont think I would write him off.

Defense wise he seems very serviceable -- just needs to foul less.

Right now, we're at that point where he plays because our options are so limited. But I agree in not writing him off. His shooting may not be there, but he doesn't lack confidence and his three point shooting is decent. He also has good vision for a PG. You can see he knows what he wants to do and where he wants to get guys the ball, he just sometimes doesn't know what he can and can't get away with. That entry pass to Luke (horrible angle turnover) in the St. John's game was a perfect example. In 1-2 years, I doubt he will be trying that.
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Quote from: brewcity77 on January 29, 2016, 03:47:08 PM
Right now, we're at that point where he plays because our options are so limited. But I agree in not writing him off. His shooting may not be there, but he doesn't lack confidence and his three point shooting is decent. He also has good vision for a PG. You can see he knows what he wants to do and where he wants to get guys the ball, he just sometimes doesn't know what he can and can't get away with. That entry pass to Luke (horrible angle turnover) in the St. John's game was a perfect example. In 1-2 years, I doubt he will be trying that.

I wouldn't write him off, either. But I wouldn't hitch my future to him.

bilsu

A little perspective.
Carter has played 474 minutes and has been called for 60 fouls.
Derrick Wilson as a freshmen played 292 minutes and in significantly less time was called for 51 fouls.

We R Final Four

When TC came aboard my hope was we wouldnt compare him to  DWILL. I do hope the pg next year makes that stride and becomes a PG we all desire.

brewcity77

Quote from: We R Final Four on January 29, 2016, 08:45:24 PM
When TC came aboard my hope was we wouldnt compare him to  DWILL. I do hope the pg next year makes that stride and becomes a PG we all desire.

Nature of the beast, we have long defined our program by our point guards. I was one of Derrick's few fans, and I think Traci will become significantly better than Derrick was. He's playing like a freshman. I can live with that. I fully believe that he will be at worst the best PG we have had since Maurice Acker, and likely exceed Acker as well.
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ChitownSpaceForRent

Traci is already better than junior year Derrick. I wouldn't worry about Traci playing at Derrick Wilson levels of ineptitude.

Herman Cain

Traci is a promising freshman player, that said I have never comfortable with him getting starter minutes. I think at 10-15 minutes this year he can be most effective. I believe has upside from here though. He is quick and understands the point guard position in the classic sense. I think over time his judgement offensively and defensively will improve and he will become a more effective player. One thing I do like is that he can shoot free throws at an appropriate level for a point guard 72.2%.

Rowsey is a proven success at the D1 level. He has had a year to get stronger, work on his skills and practice with the team. I think many are underestimating what he brings to the table.  Yes I realize most of his games were at the mid major level, however as Stephen Bardo pointed out several time this year the mid major guys are still scholarship D1 players and playing to compete.

Between Carter and Rowsey we will get some quality minutes at the PG next year. If we get Howard it would be a great addition if he is even a fraction of the hype. However, I would still rather see us get a stud rebounder with the last scholarship or two if Henry goes. We play in the Big East which in Wojo's words is a Mans conference.

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Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on January 29, 2016, 09:51:55 PM
Traci is a promising freshman player, that said I have never comfortable with him getting starter minutes. I think at 10-15 minutes this year he can be most effective. I believe has upside from here though. He is quick and understands the point guard position in the classic sense. I think over time his judgement offensively and defensively will improve and he will become a more effective player. One thing I do like is that he can shoot free throws at an appropriate level for a point guard 72.2%.

Rowsey is a proven success at the D1 level. He has had a year to get stronger, work on his skills and practice with the team. I think many are underestimating what he brings to the table.  Yes I realize most of his games were at the mid major level, however as Stephen Bardo pointed out several time this year the mid major guys are still scholarship D1 players and playing to compete.

Between Carter and Rowsey we will get some quality minutes at the PG next year. If we get Howard it would be a great addition if he is even a fraction of the hype. However, I would still rather see us get a stud rebounder with the last scholarship or two if Henry goes. We play in the Big East which in Wojo's words is a Mans conference.

I don't mean this in the wrong way, but to have concerns about Rowsey's size and his past performance against decent teams is reasonable. I am optimistic that he focuses on being a limited guy (vs. the high volume he's been in the past) who is a sharp shooter, because there I think he can achieve... but it's a big change. I'd like to see a 45% 3FG% shooter with 17% shots. I'd take that.

...but if you look game by game... he was bad against good teams. But, he was THE shooter.

Should be interesting.

I think he can be a player for us.
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Quote from: nyg on January 29, 2016, 02:56:04 PM
Can you imagine JJJ and Cohen playing power forward and going up against Reynolds, Copeland, Delgado, Bentil, and the other BE power forwards.  Oh my......

Then when Fischer gets in foul trouble (almost every game) Heldt will come in and get two offensive screens calls within four minutes. 

The team needs a PF after Henry leaves.  I realize the point guard situation is not currently the best, but is it adequate, because the PF position will not be.  With Rowsey's arrival next year, the squad has numerous guards who will be fighting for playing time.  If MU does obtain a commitment from another PG, I would not be shocked if one of the current ones left for being recruited over. Who knows.......

Marquette was at its best when it was undersized. I'll take my chances.
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We R Final Four

Quote from: Jay Bee on January 29, 2016, 10:50:41 PM
I don't mean this in the wrong way, but to have concerns about Rowsey's size and his past performance against decent teams is reasonable. I am optimistic that he focuses on being a limited guy (vs. the high volume he's been in the past) who is a sharp shooter, because there I think he can achieve... but it's a big change. I'd like to see a 45% 3FG% shooter with 17% shots. I'd take that.

...but if you look game by game... he was bad against good teams. But, he was THE shooter.

Should be interesting.

I think he can be a player for us.

Who was the last guy to shoot 45% from 3?  Steve Novak?  Yeah, I would also take that.

brewcity77

Quote from: We R Final Four on January 30, 2016, 07:57:03 AM
Who was the last guy to shoot 45% from 3?  Steve Novak?  Yeah, I would also take that.

Maurice Acker shot 49.5% from beyond the arc in 2010. DJO was 47.4% from deep the same season.
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Slim

Quote from: Jay Bee on January 29, 2016, 10:50:41 PM
I don't mean this in the wrong way, but to have concerns about Rowsey's size and his past performance against decent teams is reasonable. I am optimistic that he focuses on being a limited guy (vs. the high volume he's been in the past) who is a sharp shooter, because there I think he can achieve... but it's a big change. I'd like to see a 45% 3FG% shooter with 17% shots. I'd take that.

...but if you look game by game... he was bad against good teams. But, he was THE shooter.

Should be interesting.

I think he can be a player for us.

What eFG% are you looking for? Or is that only significant for team stats?

We R Final Four

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 30, 2016, 08:06:34 AM
Maurice Acker shot 49.5% from beyond the arc in 2010. DJO was 47.4% from deep the same season.

Gotcha--thanks.
45% from Rowsey would be way more than I would expect, but man would that be a nice change.

Jay Bee

Quote from: Slim on January 30, 2016, 08:29:01 AM
What eFG% are you looking for? Or is that only significant for team stats?

eFG% is critical always. Talking about FG% is foolish. Talking about the individual components of eFG% is smart.
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ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 29, 2016, 08:57:19 PM
Traci is already better than junior year Derrick. I wouldn't worry about Traci playing at Derrick Wilson levels of ineptitude.

Ahem

PGsHeroes32

We've got to be the front runners now!!!

Big win for us. And Indiana almost lost to the gophers at home!!!

Should be any day now that he commits.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

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