enjoy the game, not the name

[Irv the Working Man]

For BaltimoreFan -

Don't want to pick a fight on the name issue, but your AT&T / Cingular reference is not apples-to-apples.  The Marquette name has not changed.

This is more of a bait and switch.  Alumni (we) paid to for the Marquette Warrior, not the Golden Eagle.  All of the traditions and pride that we purchased have been taken away with no regard to the consequences. 

Think of it as signing a long-term cell plan with an awesome phone, but the coverage sucks.  (Again, I am not picking a fight - this example just seems more appropriate.)

As for the contract, eternal bliss, things not changing etc. - you are right - except that things did not just change, choices were made.

I love Marquette, had a great experience, received a great education and I would not be on this board if I was not passionate.  Still, the name Golden Eagles sucks and the school handled this poorly.

[Muhoops85]

I agree this topic still fuels the fire
However,  as a warrior graduate and parent of child who will be graduating on Sunday, I have learned to put away the anger.  She'll be a golden eagle.  I can never change that.

I sometimes feel the lack of unity in our cheering at both home and away games is we will never have a cheer with the word "eagles" in it, or anything other than "we are Marquette".   Listen to the badgers and other schools, they have a multitude of cheers and the students learn them at football games, etc.  It's loud and in unison. 

Other schools have their percussion section playing different beats for specific cheers.  I would assume that's taboo while there's play on the court, but when the clock is stopped, we should be loud.


I am over 40 and loud at the games.  I stand and yell.  Sometimes I bring a sign.  I get the evil eye from others my age.  That really irks me.
Just because you are over 40, you can still be a fanatic.  (I draw the line at face paint, though)

I love my team & my school, no matter what the name.

PS  If the school is not going back, at least they could start showing the clip from the Hudsucker Proxy which shows Tim Robbins' character doing a "go eagles" cheer (which is hilarious) At least we could take humor with the nickname.

I'll get off my soapbox now.

[HelixAir6]

Listening to all of this complaining about the name is like listening to Rosie O'Donnell whenever she opens her mouth... You hate to hear what she has to say, but you still listen to it (read it in this case) just to see how ridiculous it is!

Its evident that everyone that "hates" or "can't stand" the nickname are adults, but whenever i read these posts, all i picture is some crying like a 4 year old "But Mommy, I don't want to be a Golden Eagle!" Then everyone else trying to tell the complainer to get over it is the Mom responding "well, i'm sorry, that's just the way it is, you will learn in life that there are just some things you can't control"

[wadesworld]

I sometimes feel the lack of unity in our cheering at both home and away games is we will never have a cheer with the word "eagles" in it, or anything other than "we are Marquette".   Listen to the badgers and other schools, they have a multitude of cheers and the students learn them at football games, etc.  It's loud and in unison. 

Other schools have their percussion section playing different beats for specific cheers.  I would assume that's taboo while there's play on the court, but when the clock is stopped, we should be loud.

I disagree with this.  I think we do have unity, it's just the games haven't been too much to be excited about at home yet.  When we've been in close games so far we've been playing terribly, and when we've been blowing teams out we've been clearly the superior team, so it's easy to not cheer as much.  I think when it comes to conference games it will start getting louder.  I don't think the lack of our name in our cheers hurts our cheers, UW doesn't cheer their name, it's just "Let's go Red" and then dancing around.  I'd rather not have our student section look like a musical...sitting in theirs for the game I thought it was one of the dumbest things I've seen.  I will agree that they were more enthusiastic than our fans have been this year, but I'd be willing to guess our fans would be more enthusiastic if we were playing Wisconsin at home instead of Utah Valley State and IUPUI.  Once big games come I think big crowds and big noises will come.

[Marquette84]

This is more of a bait and switch.  Alumni (we) paid to for the Marquette Warrior, not the Golden Eagle.  All of the traditions and pride that we purchased have been taken away with no regard to the consequences. 

Wow. 

I'm trying to get my mind around the notion that you think pride and tradition is something that is bought.

I guess I mistakenly thought that it was earned based on actual on-court success over time by the coaches and athletes who actually put in the practice and played the games in order to achieve it.

[Avenue Commons]

i love tradition, but warriors fans need to reflect on it, not dwell on it. a coffee is no longer a quarter and marquette is no longer the warriors....

The only thing more ridiculous than constantly beating the nickname issue dead horse is when people think they need to regulate how others cheer for their team. What a joke. What the hell was the point of that post anyway?

Let me make this real clear. Some identify with Golden Eagles. Most identify with Warriors. Each have their own reasons. Let it be. Posts like that are worthless and only rile things up more.

Amen. The issue is pretty close to dead, and stuff like this only keeps it from finally going away altogether. What's done is done.

[maxpower773]

...which makes me think of a sign I once made:

Fight like a Warrior, Soar like an Eagle!!

ummmm...we once made....i'm sure all the blood was my doing.... *i figured i'd chime in on the subject without actually relating to it or causing more "arguing", i have certain reasons for hating the eagles name, none of which being the name (it may be bland but oh well...), more for what it stands for*

[thisists]

This is more of a bait and switch.  Alumni (we) paid to for the Marquette Warrior, not the Golden Eagle.  All of the traditions and pride that we purchased have been taken away with no regard to the consequences. 

sad for you that your loyalty and tradition is only with the name, rather than the team.

Think of it as signing a long-term cell plan with an awesome phone, but the coverage sucks.  (Again, I am not picking a fight - this example just seems more appropriate.)

what is the coverage in this analogy? it makes no sense.

here you go...
    phone: team
coverage: performance
     name: NAME!

[Pardner]

i love tradition, but warriors fans need to reflect on it, not dwell on it. a coffee is no longer a quarter and Marquette is no longer the warriors....

Should I stop dwelling on my freshman year girl friend years later too?  We are our memories.  The fact is, many schools are remembered by multiple nicknames.  UCLA:  Uclans and Bruins.  Georgia Tech:  Yellow Jackets and Rambling Wreck.  Northwestern:  The Purple, Fighting Methodists, Purple Haze and Wildcats.  Arkansas:  Razorbacks, Hogs.  And on and on.  

The name "Warriors" in itself is literally not offensive--let's get real.  The symbolism and cartoon nature apparently are to some--I can see that.  I find our nation's capitol's NFL team's nickname infinitely more offensive.  And--although used as counter argument often in these debates--how weird is it to have a nickname after an ethnic group--like "The Fighting Irish"?  Maybe we should end all the debate and settle on the "Golden Poles"?

To me, really, it doesn't matter that we have multiple names as what is important are our memories at MU and what we carry forward--which is different for every student.  Any attempt to "correct" this will only end in total failure.  For goodness sake, our school fight song references "A-hoya" which is either a version of Georgetown's nickname or a word no one remembers what it really means or some Jesuit secret code word or a bag of cookies.  Maybe it means Chief Golden Eagle, the First Warrior, in Latin.  Who knows, but that is my story and I am sticking to it.  Enjoy the ride, it defines us.

[spartan3186]

does anyone know if there was a debate when we changed from hilltoppers to warriors?

[muwarrior87]

very true maxpower...you made some kickass blood coming out of Bucky's ripped off head on that sign!

[MR.HAYWARD]

i would like it to be the avalanche

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

"What's in a name? that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet"


I know people feel passionately about it, but its just a name. It's still MU. Its still an urban university in Milwaukee. It's still run by the Jesuits. It still has a (renewed) hoops tradition.

That's it.

I will never claim than MU did a good job handling the situation, but I can forgive because the school has done so many other great things (for me, and in general).

I'm proud of the Warriors, I'm proud of the Eagles. Hell, I'm proud of the Hilltoppers (which I still think is a pretty cool name).