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brewcity77

Curious how our non-con RPI is 30 despite going 10-2 against the #287 SOS while SMU played the #91 SOS and is undefeated yet only manages a non-con RPI of 93.

I haven't sat down and crunched numbers, but something tells me ESPN is pulling something out of their ass (again). Guess this is the new TQBR or whatever other arbitrary rating they created to feel important about themselves.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 06, 2016, 03:24:10 PM
I haven't sat down and crunched numbers, but something tells me ESPN is pulling something out of their ass (again). Guess this is the new TQBR or whatever other arbitrary rating they created to feel important about themselves.

Agreed, and unfortunately I think it's misleading to fans, because I don't think it corresponds at all to the "official" RPI that gets distributed to the committee...which currently shows Marquette as 140 overall (vs 92 ESPN).

Benny B

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 06, 2016, 02:59:18 PM
I don't think I asserted that remotely...  ?-(

No, I was the one who asserted that.  RPIForecast says on it's explanations page "The OOC RPI is just the RPI applied to non-conference opponents" (emphasis mine).

In other words, consider a scenario where Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina, Maryland, Arizona and UCONN breeze through their NC schedules which consisted of mostly cupcake wins mixed in with a bunch of losses to Big East teams... yet when conference play starts, all go undefeated, win their respective conference titles and are in the top 15 RPI.

Now assume MU goes 10-2 in OOC against a schedule that includes all six of these teams... considering a) the losses by these six against other BE teams hurt MU's NCRPI - despite NCRPI being a non-conference RPI and b) the success of these six during the conference season has no effect on MU's NCRPI, you can see the flaw in how RPIForecast is calculating NCRPI, no matter if it's a projected or actual rank you're looking at.

In other words, if you play a bunch of eventual 1-4 seeds in November and December yet they played crappy OOC schedules themselves (or have a bunch of losses to your conference mates), of course you're going to have a shiiiity NCRPI.

I agree that RPI calculations seem to vary amongst the various providers, but all seem to be consistent at the end of the season.  But I'm pretty certain that the committee isn't seeing the NCRPI figures calculated the same way that all the other third parties are.

Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

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