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Next up: A long offseason

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tower912

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2015/03/cornell_graduate_transfer_shon.html#incart_river

Some heavy hitters competing for this guy.    He HAS to transfer, as the Ivy league prohibits graduate students from playing sports. 

BTW, just another way to spell Sean/Shawn/Shaun/Shawon/Shean/Shon/Shonn/Schon.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

brewcity77

Marquette also talked to him this week. Will be a tough get. Anyone know how many scholarships Michigan has? Be a shame to see them get him and Mike Edwards.

nyg

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 28, 2015, 02:42:39 PM
Marquette also talked to him this week. Will be a tough get. Anyone know how many scholarships Michigan has? Be a shame to see them get him and Mike Edwards.

They have no seniors on this year's team and have not signed anyone for 2015 that I could find.  Levert may go pro, so that would free up one if he leaves.  Otherwise zero.........?

chapman

Quote from: tower912 on March 28, 2015, 02:33:45 PM
He HAS to transfer, as the Ivy league prohibits graduate students from playing sports. 

Was wondering about this "forced" angle - couldn't he simply delay graduation, take some more courses or pursue a second undergraduate major if he wanted to stay?  Not saying it's not a better decision to graduate from an Ivy in four years, take some grad classes elsewhere and play for a team that could be tournament-bound, just seemed that the whole "only option" story seems to not be completely true, no?


Dawson Rental

Quote from: chapman on March 28, 2015, 05:35:28 PM
Was wondering about this "forced" angle - couldn't he simply delay graduation, take some more courses or pursue a second undergraduate major if he wanted to stay?  Not saying it's not a better decision to graduate from an Ivy in four years, take some grad classes elsewhere and play for a team that could be tournament-bound, just seemed that the whole "only option" story seems to not be completely true, no?



Since you're talking an Ivy League rule, I guess that your only chance for an answer would be if a compliance officer from an Ivy League athletic department happens across this thread.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

brandx

Quote from: chapman on March 28, 2015, 05:35:28 PM
Was wondering about this "forced" angle - couldn't he simply delay graduation, take some more courses or pursue a second undergraduate major if he wanted to stay?  Not saying it's not a better decision to graduate from an Ivy in four years, take some grad classes elsewhere and play for a team that could be tournament-bound, just seemed that the whole "only option" story seems to not be completely true, no?



He missed a year with an injury. In the Ivy, you only have 4 years to compete rather than 5.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: brandx on March 28, 2015, 06:16:37 PM
He missed a year with an injury. In the Ivy, you only have 4 years to compete rather than 5.

Ahh, so the Ivy has a no redshirt rule.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: LittleWade on March 28, 2015, 05:45:57 PM
Since you're talking an Ivy League rule, I guess that your only chance for an answer would be if a compliance officer from an Ivy League athletic department happens across this thread.

There's only different rules in hockey........

Dawson Rental

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 28, 2015, 06:41:23 PM
There's only different rules in hockey........

Then why can't Shonn Miller play basketball at Cornell anymore?
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

forgetful

The Ivy league does not allow redshirts.  You have 4-years to play, that is all.  It is the reason why some Ivy league schools bend the rules by having recruits spend a year at a local community college and still practice at the Ivy facilities.  It is a defacto redshirt.

Groin_pull

Ivy League? That wouldn't get him in UW.  ::)

D'Lo Brown

Quote from: Groin_pull on March 28, 2015, 07:30:42 PM
Ivy League? That wouldn't get him in UW.  ::)

That's why he had to go to Cornell (Maryland of the Ivy League).

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: nyg on March 28, 2015, 02:48:14 PM
They have no seniors on this year's team and have not signed anyone for 2015 that I could find.  Levert may go pro, so that would free up one if he leaves.  Otherwise zero.........?

At this point, correct. But if they want Miller and Edwards, then they will find room for them.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Dawson Rental

#13
I guess someone on Michigan's roster will have to be Beelined out.





Yeah, I know that's not how it's spelled. 
From Michigan's web site.  Pronunciation: "Bee-Line"
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

The Equalizer

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 28, 2015, 02:42:39 PM
Marquette also talked to him this week. Will be a tough get. Anyone know how many scholarships Michigan has? Be a shame to see them get him and Mike Edwards.

13




KenoshaWarrior

Quote from: LittleWade on March 28, 2015, 05:45:57 PM
Since you're talking an Ivy League rule, I guess that your only chance for an answer would be if a compliance officer from an Ivy League athletic department happens across this thread.
I guess we will just need to call up the wisconsin compliance director than seeing they are the closest ivy league school

keefe

Quote from: yetipro on March 28, 2015, 07:56:35 PM
That's why he had to go to Cornell (Maryland of the Ivy League).

The Back Door of the Ivy League


Death on call

Jay Bee

Don't count on traditional media or message boards to get things correct on compliance issues.

It is most certainly possible to receive a medical hardship waiver for a season and compete four years over a five year period in the Ivy.
The portal is NOT closed.

The Equalizer

Quote from: Jay Bee on March 30, 2015, 03:13:28 AM
Don't count on traditional media or message boards to get things correct on compliance issues.

It is most certainly possible to receive a medical hardship waiver for a season and compete four years over a five year period in the Ivy.

Are you saying that Shonn Miller is eligible to play for Cornell next year?





forgetful

Quote from: Jay Bee on March 30, 2015, 03:13:28 AM
Don't count on traditional media or message boards to get things correct on compliance issues.

It is most certainly possible to receive a medical hardship waiver for a season and compete four years over a five year period in the Ivy.

You can believe this, but you are wrong.

JakeBarnes

Good to hear we've reached out. Hopefully he steps foot on campus soon and realizes there are a lot of minutes for him here as we go for the NCAA tournament next year.

Also: he would get a nice trip to Italy, which can't hurt.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

Jay Bee

Quote from: The Equalizer on March 30, 2015, 11:11:54 AM
Are you saying that Shonn Miller is eligible to play for Cornell next year?

I am saying exactly what I said.

As for Miller, his sitting out a year appeared - from a distance - a decision and not a result of being incapable of competing. If my take is accurate, he wouldn't meet the medical hardship waiver requirements of the NCAA (which are also used by the Ivy League).

The portal is NOT closed.

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