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Litehouse

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Re: MU meets with Martin
« Reply #75 on: March 31, 2014, 12:41:56 PM »
Because that's what the KenPom rankings are supposed to do - provide a predictive performance value separate from W/L record. A team ranked ~25 losing by 1 at home  and by 3 in OT at TAMU as well as by 4 at Vandy & by 5 @ Mizzou is more of an anomaly. Their efficiency ratings are not a fluke, they just are what they are.

Just curious, but what does KenPom say of our season this year?  With all the close/OT games, which ones were considered flukes?

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Re: MU meets with Martin
« Reply #76 on: March 31, 2014, 12:43:56 PM »
So Florida is the only team that can keep the streak alive.

No. That list you referenced are teams that have BOTH top 25 offense AND defense.

The stat is that you can't win the championship without EITHER a top 25 offense OR a top 25 defense.

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Re: MU meets with Martin
« Reply #77 on: March 31, 2014, 12:51:19 PM »
No. That list you referenced are teams that have BOTH top 25 offense AND defense.

The stat is that you can't win the championship without EITHER a top 25 offense OR a top 25 defense.

Nah dawg. It's both at the same time for the 'ship. And for the final four it's almost a prerequisite. Henry Sugar had a pretty great post about that recently:

http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2014/03/marquette-and-priorities-part-one.html


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Re: MU meets with Martin
« Reply #78 on: March 31, 2014, 12:55:24 PM »
Because that's what the KenPom rankings are supposed to do - provide a predictive performance value separate from W/L record. A team ranked ~25 losing by 1 at home  and by 3 in OT at TAMU as well as by 4 at Vandy & by 5 @ Mizzou is more of an anomaly. Their efficiency ratings are not a fluke, they just are what they are.

That's just great.  We may not contend with the top teams and give them a run for their money, but we'll be a Ken Pom darling.  

What time is the Ken Pom awards banquet so I can my suit ready?

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Re: MU meets with Martin
« Reply #79 on: March 31, 2014, 12:58:51 PM »
That's just great.  We may not contend with the top teams and give them a run for their money, but we'll be a Ken Pom darling.  

What time is the Ken Pom awards banquet so I can my suit ready?

You ask for reasoned analytical support to my statement, you get it, and this is your reply. I shan't be dancing with you any longer.

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Re: MU meets with Martin
« Reply #80 on: March 31, 2014, 01:01:35 PM »
Nah dawg. It's both at the same time for the 'ship. And for the final four it's almost a prerequisite. Henry Sugar had a pretty great post about that recently:

http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2014/03/marquette-and-priorities-part-one.html



yup. reading comprehension not my strong suit right now. thanks for the correction

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Re: MU meets with Martin
« Reply #81 on: March 31, 2014, 01:02:53 PM »
That's just great.  We may not contend with the top teams and give them a run for their money, but we'll be a Ken Pom darling.  

What time is the Ken Pom awards banquet so I can my suit ready?

You are really missing the point of the efficiency stats. It would be nearly impossible for a team to be ranked top 25 in both off & def and consistently come up short. That's why the record is the anomaly.

Now you could argue that he might not be capable of replicating his efficiency numbers at MU, but that is a different discussion.

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Re: MU meets with Martin
« Reply #82 on: March 31, 2014, 01:10:20 PM »
Just curious, but what does KenPom say of our season this year?  With all the close/OT games, which ones were considered flukes?

We were not ranked very highly, 55-65 most of conference season (UT is currently 7, MU is currently 79). But going to OT @ #198 Depaul for sure, and to a lesser extent @ #105 Butler were closer to anomalies on the downside for us, and taking #13 Villanova to OT at home was an closer to an anomaly on the upside for us.

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Re: MU meets with Martin
« Reply #83 on: March 31, 2014, 01:17:20 PM »
That's just great.  We may not contend with the top teams and give them a run for their money, but we'll be a Ken Pom darling.  

What time is the Ken Pom awards banquet so I can my suit ready?
you own a suit?

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« Reply #84 on: March 31, 2014, 01:29:42 PM »
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« Reply #85 on: March 31, 2014, 06:04:53 PM »
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You also forgot 2014 Sweet 16.

To be fair, that's better than MU, Duke, VCU, and Howland's church league squad or whatever he coached this year.