Newest Rumor: VCU to Big East

[frozena pizza]

I can't imagine the A-10 buyout is what is keeping VCU from jumping to the Big East.  They have plenty of money.  Anyway, this "newest rumor" has been around ever since the Catholic 7 broke off.

Finally, I also can't imagine that the prospect of of VCU at some point joining the Big East is going to be a determining factor for Shaka.

[Knight Commission]

For the Big East to expand VCU would have to "buy in" as well because we arent going to get a new FS1 contract and we arent going to dilute our $5 mil share either.

[Gopher+RamFan]

VCU fans are the nouveau riche among college basketball fans. They are still so giddy from 2011, they don't know how to handle their success. So they go to other boards and talk about how every other program is not worthy of Shaka.

They are the ones who go buy the flashy Rolex with Daddy's money, while MU fans are content with a classic, well-built Hamilton. They are confident enough that they don't need to go to other boards and brag about their successes.

No one said Minnesota, Maryland, UCLA, Marquette, Illinois were not fine programs. Nor did anyone say Shaka was too good for them. As a fanbase, we pretty much go through this every, single, year. The fans of the prospect school always state things like "he'd be stupid not to take a raise" "this will be a bump up in competition, and a better conference" "how could he not say yes!"

Fans of Minnesota, ILL even played the "he'll be closer to home" "he loves the Cubs, he wants to be closer to Chicago".

To say VCU fans have heard all these things before would be an understatement. It's not
Presumptive of them to feel confident that their coach will stay.  Not saying he's a lifer, but come on.

I know it was just a comparison, but it's ironic to compare fans of a 30k public research university as "nouveau riche" against a private institution as Marquette. The demographics couldn't be farther than the truth.

[Coleman]

I know it was just a comparison, but it's ironic to compare fans of a 30k public research university as "nouveau riche" against a private institution as Marquette. The demographics couldn't be farther than the truth.

Says the fan who came on our board bragging about VCU's endowment.

You clearly know nothing about Marquette, its Jesuit ideals, and mission to service, urban issues, and first generation students. Move along.

[texaswarrior74]

VCU has an endowment of $1.327 Billion, not sure if scrounging would be correct.

If hypothetically it was happening, I'm sure the AD would be requesting donations regardless. Any perceived "good news" should be followed strongly by a fundraising campaign.

Since I don't know the details of the VCU endowment I can only make some general comments.

Having been involved in a number of capital campaigns, the most recent a $100 million campaign for the all boy's private school my son attended, I can tell you that most donations are given with a specific purpose or destination at the time of the donation.

I'm not questioning the stated amount of the VCU endowment but it's important to note that most of that money is untouchable for something like a buyout. Often much of the money is in trusts and estates and the rest heavily invested so not liquid in any sense.

Funds allocated to a general fund tend to be the smallest amounts of any allocation since they are subject to annual budget consideration.

Funds for a buyout would come from wealthy donors friendly to the athletic program asked to assist in the process...that's what they are there for aren't they?  

[Pakuni]

...the A10

Yeah, but that was a layover.

[Gopher+RamFan]

Says the fan who came on our board bragging about VCU's endowment.

You clearly know nothing about Marquette, its Jesuit ideals, and mission to service, urban issues, and first generation students. Move along.

Not bragging, responding to posts about VCU "scrounging" up funds. I don't like to talk in generalities like "VCU is fine when it comes to money" when I can point to undeniable facts, such endowment.

[Gopher+RamFan]

Since I don't know the details of the VCU endowment I can only make some general comments.

Having been involved in a number of capital campaigns, the most recent a $100 million campaign for the all boy's private school my son attended, I can tell you that most donations are given with a specific purpose or destination at the time of the donation.

I'm not questioning the stated amount of the VCU endowment but it's important to note that most of that money is untouchable for something like a buyout. Often much of the money is in trusts and estates and the rest heavily invested so not liquid in any sense.

Funds allocated to a general fund tend to be the smallest amounts of any allocation since they are subject to annual budget consideration.

Funds for a buyout would come from wealthy donors friendly to the athletic program asked to assist in the process...that's what they are there for aren't they?  

Yes most endowment are fairly static, in nature. But they also reflect the overall monetary value of an institutional, in fairly simple figure. A 1 Million buyout, and 5 million dollar buy in, to the BE is a big commitment. But its not as if VCU would struggle to come up with the money from the same donors (and new corporate ones) who have helped before. Some parts of the endowment can be liquidated fairly easily for such a buy out, if need be.

[Pakuni]

Not bragging, responding to posts about VCU "scrounging" up funds. I don't like to talk in generalities like "VCU is fine when it comes to money" when I can point to undeniable facts, such endowment.

For a bunch that considers themselves quite the tricksters, what with your phony message board IDs and Twitter accounts, you sure take yourselves pretty seriously.

[Benny B]

For a bunch that considers themselves quite the tricksters, what with your phony message board IDs and Twitter accounts, you sure take yourselves pretty seriously.

Hey mods... any way we can get some bandwidth stats?  Particularly bandwidth that we're stealing via all of these patently awesome {img} links?

[JakeBarnes]

Hey mods... any way we can get some bandwidth stats?  Particularly bandwidth that we're stealing via all of these patently awesome {img} links?

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+1.  Man, all of these threads are being derailed.  And I don't mind

For anyone out there who still remembers what the Superbar is, I started a "Shaka Smart Waiting Lounge" thread with the intent that all of the fooling around could happen there while we wait.

[Benny B]

+1.  Man, all of these threads are being derailed.  And I don't mind

For anyone out there who still remembers what the Superbar is, I started a "Shaka Smart Waiting Lounge" thread with the intent that all of the fooling around could happen there while we wait.

We'll consolidate later and create an even craptasiticular thread than the last.  For now, enjoy the buffet.