New Jersey Bans Tesla "Dealerships" What say you?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Yes and no

Digital downloads measured by units dwarfs DVD by a factor of nearly 10.  So no digital is far larger than DVD measured in units.  (as a side note, what is the world's biggest TV network, which is orders of magnitude larger than its competitors?  YouTube)

DVD revenues dwarf downloads.  Is that because 1) people still like to buy things they watch over and over like Children's movies and/or 2) people are stupid and will pay $19.95 for something that costs a few pennies or is free on the internet? (see the "untucked" thread.  Some think it is a good idea to charge $19.99 for a DVD when it available for free on the net.)

Digital download units...movies...do not dwarf DVD sales.  You must be talking about something else or we are defining things much different.  I'm taking about EST, electronic sell through movies....not streaming services or online rentals.  I'm talking apples to apples purchase.

Let's look at prices TODAY.

If you go and buy Hunger Games: Catching Fire on DVD it costs $16.99 currently.  If I buy it from Apple iTunes store, the cost is $19.99.  Interesting.

We can do this exercise for all kinds of movies.  Animal House from iTunes to buy is $9.99.   The DVD is $8.49.  Still interesting.


There are examples where it is slightly cheaper digitally, but my point is the massive cost savings aren't there.  Is it a straight to consumer model?  No, obviously iTunes is still a middleman...why is that?  Because the studios don't have the money, expertise, etc to become a storefront necessarily, though they certainly could.  Say they do in the future, do you think they will undercut the DVD and digital download prices?  I sincerely doubt it, because those are big earners for them as well.

[Tugg Speedman]

Digital download units...movies...do not dwarf DVD sales.  You must be talking about something else or we are defining things much different.  I'm taking about EST, electronic sell through movies....not streaming services or online rentals.  I'm talking apples to apples purchase.

Let's look at prices TODAY.

Just because you want to define it this way does not mean the consumer defines it the way "Mr. Direct TV Salesman."  The consumer sees digital stream and online rentals as competition and they use these formats way more than your narrow definition.

You have a blind spot when it comes to digital competition.  You have to realize what is coming or it will be your undoing. 

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I've been riding around in fire trucks for 24 years.   If he can build one that works better than the ones we have, and believe me, that is a pretty low bar, for a competitive price, I am all for it.   It's tricky though.  My experience with fire trucks says that every time they come up with something electric to replace something mechanical  (transmissions, pumps, aerial's, foam mixers) it takes at least until the second generation for the electrical version to be as reliable as the mechanical version. 
So, if Mr. Musk can build a fire truck hardy enough to stand up to the demands of flowing 1500 gpm of H20 out of 3 outlets simultaneously at different pressures, with an aerial strong enough to handle 600 lbs of firefighter, equipment, and water at the end of 100 ft of ladder, that doesn't break down whether it is in a Phoenix summer or in an the upper Midwest winter,  AND, and this is the big one, can have enough battery power to do this for hours on end with no recharge at the average large commercial fire,  congratulations.    And there will be buyers.   
I won't say he can't, because that would just be a dare to him, but that should be a long term goal at best and he should stick to cars and rockets.   

A very Keefe like explanation of fire operations.  Well done

[Spotcheck Billy]

http://epicplum.com/tesla-model-s-video-walkthrough-the-future-has-arrived/

[ChicosBailBonds]

Just because you want to define it this way does not mean the consumer defines it the way "Mr. Direct TV Salesman."  The consumer sees digital stream and online rentals as competition and they use these formats way more than your narrow definition.

You have a blind spot when it comes to digital competition.  You have to realize what is coming or it will be your undoing.  

Sigh.  I'm well aware of what is coming and what already exists.  I was comparing apples to apples, you were not.   If you counting streaming a 5 minute short how is that comparable to buying a DVD with a 2 hour movie on it?  

I have no blind spot on it whatsoever.....we stream digitally today.  We tried to buy Hulu last year. I'm heavily involved in that aspect of the business, I have no reason to be blinded buy it, especially since we have embraced it and will continue to.  I'm merely explaining that a lot of you think the world changes in 12 seconds, it doesn't.  Currently, DVD sales DESTROY digital streaming.  Its like the single A ball vs the major leagues.  That will change, but that change is going to take longer than you think.

More importantly, this massive savings you think you are going to get is going to be an eye opener and a big letdown for many people.  The studios aren't going to allow for it, just like they don't today.  Sure, you can other sources of content online, etc, for "free" or cheap until that has to be monetized as well.  Today, something like Untucked which you claim is "free", is subsidized by 100,000,000 people subscribing to ESPN on their television.  Nothing is truly free, though I know a lot of people think it is because they don't look deeply enough.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Today's news on electric cars......might want to pack a warm blanket or two


http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-aaa-electric-vehicle-range-20140320,0,3522803.story#ixzz2wWphMXOq

[Tugg Speedman]

Today's news on electric cars......might want to pack a warm blanket or two


http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-aaa-electric-vehicle-range-20140320,0,3522803.story#ixzz2wWphMXOq

Agree that these glorified golf carts have issues.

The Telsa has a fuel cell range of 300 miles, not 75 to 100 like to vote and/or leaf.  And year it has a reduced range in frigid temperatures, of 150 miles or so.

[muwarrior69]

Today's news on electric cars......might want to pack a warm blanket or two


http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-aaa-electric-vehicle-range-20140320,0,3522803.story#ixzz2wWphMXOq

How many brown outs are there in California during the summer? Can you imagine trying to keep your AC going when every car in CA is on the grid.