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Coleman

What was it called for? Was watching at a bar without sound ...

mattyv1908

The refs blew not giving Thomas the TO, yet what Buzz subsequently did was far more detrimental to the team than the poor call by the official.
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NersEllenson

He was upset that they weren't granted a time out on a loose ball possession by Jake...as Buzz was shouting it in the ear of official right in front of him and Jake made signal as he fell to floor with ball...

Buzz then ran down toward baseline official and was making T.O. symbol saying he called time out...

In my view, it didn't look like he deserved the T AT ALL...unless of course he said something really nasty to the official that you couldn't see on TV...

But at face value....thought it was a very, very quick, reactionary T..
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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Ners on March 02, 2014, 05:20:47 PM
He was upset that they weren't granted a time out on a loose ball possession by Jake...as Buzz was shouting it in the ear of official right in front of him and Jake made signal as he fell to floor with ball...

Buzz then ran down toward baseline official and was making T.O. symbol saying he called time out...

In my view, it didn't look like he deserved the T AT ALL...unless of course he said something really nasty to the official that you couldn't see on TV...

But at face value....thought it was a very, very quick, reactionary T..

His own players had to hold him back.  He took an aggressive posture, the refs will T you up every time for that.

Buzz also admitted the technical was the right call.  On the flip side, Buzz was right that it was a bad call in not giving him the timeout.  There are going to be bad calls, you can't make them worse by compounding them. 

bilsu

I was wondering if he was called for being out of the coaching box. He cannot go on the floor, if there was not a timeout. He was arguing with the ref that Thomas called timeout, but to seemed to forget taht the timeout was not awarded when he ran out on the floor.

tower912

Was this the same ref with the history of T-ing buzz?
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Coleman

Thanks for the explanation.

My main beef with Buzz is that he is warned every single game for being out of the box. These sort of T's really bug me because Buzz knows better, and has been warned many, many times. There's really no excuse.


jesmu84

I don't understand the call/non-call on Jake. He dove, had complete possession of the ball and was signaling timeout while sliding across the floor. From the above camera, the ref seemed to be watching Jake slide across the floor and called him OOB when he finally crossed the baseline. Why did he not give Jake the TO?

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: jesmu84 on March 02, 2014, 05:50:31 PM
I don't understand the call/non-call on Jake. He dove, had complete possession of the ball and was signaling timeout while sliding across the floor. From the above camera, the ref seemed to be watching Jake slide across the floor and called him OOB when he finally crossed the baseline. Why did he not give Jake the TO?

If I had to guess, the ref probably thought he didn't have control of the ball by the time he slid out of bounds.  Bad call

mugoose

the ref that the blew the call was a last minute replacement official

chapman

Quote from: mugoose on March 02, 2014, 08:29:52 PM
the ref that the blew the call was a last minute replacement official

Uhhh, replacement refs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzym9PywqUo

WarriorFan

Replays clearly showed Buzz calling TO to one official and Jake (with possession) calling it directly in front of another.  It was a horrible OB call by the refs, who should now be forced to publicly apologize for their mistakes. 

We probably would have lost anyway...
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77ncaachamps

Meh. Al enjoyed working over the refs for Techs so they'd "owe him one" later in the game.

Buzz wasn't intending to do that but he had to speak his mind. Was he right in doing so? Yes.
But the refs have been horrible all season and being a home game at Nova, I'm sure the Philly fans influenced the ref to call the T.
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Coleman

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on March 03, 2014, 02:04:55 AM
Meh. Al enjoyed working over the refs for Techs so they'd "owe him one" later in the game.

Buzz wasn't intending to do that but he had to speak his mind. Was he right in doing so? Yes.
But the refs have been horrible all season and being a home game at Nova, I'm sure the Philly fans influenced the ref to call the T.

Al was good at that. But he also got burned by it more than once, and it might have even cost him an NCAA championship in 1974.

My problem is that Buzz never got the T that was "owed" to him. There are very few circumstances where it is a good idea to give the other team 2 points and the ball. Down 6 on the road against the #8 team in the country is probably not one of them.

Look, I love Buzz. I have very few complaints. I just wish he'd stay in the box and avoid the Ts. He's lucky he doesn't have more this season.

tower912

The T was poorly timed, but the call was wrong and Buzz needed the call.   What struck me as interesting was the team's reaction.   MU had been closing the half strong, had been working themselves back into the game, had gotten a stop and the ball and a chance to cut into the lead further when the bad call and the T- happened.   It went from a momentum building stop to a 5 pt possession for Villanova and the team virtually folded.   Especially the senior leaders.   I am trying to picture what a sequence like that would have brought out of Lazar, Jimmy, Jae, Vander, DJO, Cubi........  I guaran-damn-tee it would not have been to pack it in for the last 21 minutes of play.   
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It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

ChicosBailBonds

Just a thought, according to others on the interwebs, you can't call call a timeout while sliding just as you can't call timeout any longer while going out of bounds.

Thoughts?


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