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Author Topic: Where's the D-Wil love from Ners?  (Read 9758 times)

NersEllenson

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Re: Where's the D-Wil love from Ners?
« Reply #75 on: January 31, 2014, 12:40:44 PM »
If you didn't spew out falsities you might gain credibility in your position.    

Step 1:  Go to any sports website with a box score.  Count the games Wilson was 30+ vs the number of games he played.  It is 12 games out of 21 that he has played 30+.  In those games MU is 6-6.  Of the 6 losses 5 where to KenPom top 50.  2 wins were against the Top 50 including number 35 GW and Providence 48).  Georgetown is not in the top 50 (68).  

Step 2:  Why is it that playing with 9 different guys only impacted one of the two players.  

Ahh...my bad...for the SEASON, Derrick averages 29.4 minutes per GAME.  As you point out, 12 were over 30..and some well over 30...and there have been 7 games other than the 12 you mention where he was in the high 20s...talk about splitting hairs?

Playing with 9 different guys isn't the problem over the course of 30 minutes of action.  If you could read...wouldn't have to reiterate the point - the point was playing with 9 different guys in the span of 3:32 seconds...is quite different, and pretty ludicrous actually.  Derrick had a stretch to start the second half where Merrit pointed out he played with 7 different guys....over a 5 minute stretch...and he was -3 in that time...

Bottom line.  Your boy is shooting 8% from 3, 46% from the FT line, 38% from the field for the season.  Sorry I'm not impressed with those percentages in 29.4 minutes of play to "produce" 5.0ppg, 4apg, 4rpg, and 1.5 turnovers per game.

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Re: Where's the D-Wil love from Ners?
« Reply #76 on: January 31, 2014, 12:50:35 PM »

Pretty obvious.  DW was playing well on both ends of the floor.

Let's condense this into one post and save everyone the trouble...

Derrick was playing well? Really? He only scored 4 points but his man scored 20! Yeah, real hot hand  ::)

Look at the splits. Most of Cotton's damage came with Derrick on the bench.

Well, if Buzz gave Dawson as much as help on Cotton as he gave Derrick, I guarantee he wouldn't have scored at all.

How can you guarantee that? Besides, Mayo was on Cotton a lot of the time.

Dawson had to play with 9 different guys in a span of 3:32. I played ball at the Rec Center so I know that it's tough to get into a rhythm like that. Besides, Derrick only scored 4 points! Dawson scored more than that in OT against world-beater Gtown. Think of what he could have done with 30 minutes against also-ran Providence!

Dawson played well in the Gtown game which is why Buzz gave him extended minutes. He wasn't playing well last night and Derrick was, so Derrick got more minutes.

Just like Derrick has gotten 30 minutes a game all season and all season MU keeps losing to top 50 teams. Give Dawson those minutes and MU's record would be much better. Just look at what he did against Gtown!

Derrick played 30 minutes against an RPI top 50 team last night and MU won.

Yeah, because Cooley pressed and Dawson played with 9 different guys. Besides, you can't use small samples sizes to judge the PGs. Dawson has "it," I mean look at the Georgetown game!

Aren't you using small sample sizes to judge Dawson since you keep coming back to the Gtown game?

Derrick's shooting 8% on 3s!

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Re: Where's the D-Wil love from Ners?
« Reply #77 on: January 31, 2014, 12:57:30 PM »
OK, to end the argument of Derrick/Dawson, the split should be about 25 to 15 minutes for Derrick, except in close games where we are ahead, derrick cannot be in the game on offense, because of his FT problems. You cannot have a 46-50% PG in at crunch time when the fouls are flying.
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Re: Where's the D-Wil love from Ners?
« Reply #78 on: January 31, 2014, 12:59:44 PM »

Whose hot hand was Buzz riding in the second half?



He got off of John after after a 0-11 run and put in Derrick. Never got closer than a 3 point game after that (what it was when Derrick entered), stayed mostly in the 7-11 range. He rode Derrick, Todd, Jamil and Davante pretty much the rest of the way.

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Re: Where's the D-Wil love from Ners?
« Reply #79 on: January 31, 2014, 01:03:20 PM »
Playing with 9 different guys isn't the problem over the course of 30 minutes of action.  If you could read...wouldn't have to reiterate the point - the point was playing with 9 different guys in the span of 3:32 seconds...is quite different, and pretty ludicrous actually.  


You make it sound as if these guys were constantly coming in and out.

Dawson came in for Derrick and played 1:53 with Todd, Jamil, Jake and Davante...and went -6.

Those four went out and JJJ, Otule, Burton and Anderson came in for about 1:30 and went -5.

Is that really ludicrous?  

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Re: Where's the D-Wil love from Ners?
« Reply #80 on: January 31, 2014, 01:09:35 PM »
You have absolutely zero clue as to what happened in that game last night.  Did you even watch it or did you just look at the box score this morning?

That's a serious question.

As for Hack a Derrick, we have played in a LOT of close games this year...haven't seen that brilliant strategy once that I can recall.
Yeah, I watched the game.  I already said derrick had a good game, but Cotton get 20, and Derrick got tons of help on Cotton, including from OX who everybody says he can't play D. And by the way, it is a brilliant strategy, glad you agree. Seriously!!
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Re: Where's the D-Wil love from Ners?
« Reply #81 on: January 31, 2014, 01:22:06 PM »
Let's condense this into one post and save everyone the trouble...

Derrick was playing well? Really? He only scored 4 points but his man scored 20! Yeah, real hot hand  ::)

Look at the splits. Most of Cotton's damage came with Derrick on the bench.

Well, if Buzz gave Dawson as much as help on Cotton as he gave Derrick, I guarantee he wouldn't have scored at all.

How can you guarantee that? Besides, Mayo was on Cotton a lot of the time.

Dawson had to play with 9 different guys in a span of 3:32. I played ball at the Rec Center so I know that it's tough to get into a rhythm like that. Besides, Derrick only scored 4 points! Dawson scored more than that in OT against world-beater Gtown. Think of what he could have done with 30 minutes against also-ran Providence!

Dawson played well in the Gtown game which is why Buzz gave him extended minutes. He wasn't playing well last night and Derrick was, so Derrick got more minutes.

Just like Derrick has gotten 30 minutes a game all season and all season MU keeps losing to top 50 teams. Give Dawson those minutes and MU's record would be much better. Just look at what he did against Gtown!

Derrick played 30 minutes against an RPI top 50 team last night and MU won.

Yeah, because Cooley pressed and Dawson played with 9 different guys. Besides, you can't use small samples sizes to judge the PGs. Dawson has "it," I mean look at the Georgetown game!

Aren't you using small sample sizes to judge Dawson since you keep coming back to the Gtown game?

Derrick's shooting 8% on 3s!

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Re: Where's the D-Wil love from Ners?
« Reply #82 on: January 31, 2014, 01:33:05 PM »
Let's condense this into one post and save everyone the trouble...

Derrick was playing well? Really? He only scored 4 points but his man scored 20! Yeah, real hot hand  ::)

Look at the splits. Most of Cotton's damage came with Derrick on the bench.

Well, if Buzz gave Dawson as much as help on Cotton as he gave Derrick, I guarantee he wouldn't have scored at all.

How can you guarantee that? Besides, Mayo was on Cotton a lot of the time.

Dawson had to play with 9 different guys in a span of 3:32. I played ball at the Rec Center so I know that it's tough to get into a rhythm like that. Besides, Derrick only scored 4 points! Dawson scored more than that in OT against world-beater Gtown. Think of what he could have done with 30 minutes against also-ran Providence!

Dawson played well in the Gtown game which is why Buzz gave him extended minutes. He wasn't playing well last night and Derrick was, so Derrick got more minutes.

Just like Derrick has gotten 30 minutes a game all season and all season MU keeps losing to top 50 teams. Give Dawson those minutes and MU's record would be much better. Just look at what he did against Gtown!

Derrick played 30 minutes against an RPI top 50 team last night and MU won.

Yeah, because Cooley pressed and Dawson played with 9 different guys. Besides, you can't use small samples sizes to judge the PGs. Dawson has "it," I mean look at the Georgetown game!

Aren't you using small sample sizes to judge Dawson since you keep coming back to the Gtown game?

Derrick's shooting 8% on 3s!

(repeat on different thread)


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Re: Where's the D-Wil love from Ners?
« Reply #83 on: January 31, 2014, 04:34:02 PM »
Plus minus for last night......Derrick and Burton lead the way....

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Re: Where's the D-Wil love from Ners?
« Reply #84 on: January 31, 2014, 07:06:19 PM »
Let's condense this into one post and save everyone the trouble...

Derrick was playing well? Really? He only scored 4 points but his man scored 20! Yeah, real hot hand  ::)

Look at the splits. Most of Cotton's damage came with Derrick on the bench.

Well, if Buzz gave Dawson as much as help on Cotton as he gave Derrick, I guarantee he wouldn't have scored at all.

How can you guarantee that? Besides, Mayo was on Cotton a lot of the time.

Dawson had to play with 9 different guys in a span of 3:32. I played ball at the Rec Center so I know that it's tough to get into a rhythm like that. Besides, Derrick only scored 4 points! Dawson scored more than that in OT against world-beater Gtown. Think of what he could have done with 30 minutes against also-ran Providence!

Dawson played well in the Gtown game which is why Buzz gave him extended minutes. He wasn't playing well last night and Derrick was, so Derrick got more minutes.

Just like Derrick has gotten 30 minutes a game all season and all season MU keeps losing to top 50 teams. Give Dawson those minutes and MU's record would be much better. Just look at what he did against Gtown!

Derrick played 30 minutes against an RPI top 50 team last night and MU won.

Yeah, because Cooley pressed and Dawson played with 9 different guys. Besides, you can't use small samples sizes to judge the PGs. Dawson has "it," I mean look at the Georgetown game!

Aren't you using small sample sizes to judge Dawson since you keep coming back to the Gtown game?

Derrick's shooting 8% on 3s!

(repeat on different thread)


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