sotg

[jsglow]

Thanks Sultan, good stuff as usual.  The thing that jumped out at me was Juan started the season something like 0-10 from the 3 line.  I recall him getting the lid off with one shot, I think against Bucky.  Yesterday he was absolute money.  And his pesky defense at least since the west coast trip has been really good.  Looking forward to another good game from him Tuesday.  He's one guy who simply MUST continue to emerge.

[MU1980]

Seriously?

Why vote when the guy with the least amount of votes

And worst numbers. Wins it.

Fu cking stupid

First of all, our opinions are just that, opinions, not votes.  The moderators decide the SOTG.  Also, what part of 5 assists and 5 steals don't you understand.  Also, do you know that  other things like excellent defense matter in who gets the SOTG. 

[PGsHeroes32]

I suggest you boycott SOTG voting until this outrage has passed!!!

Seriously, he had a real good game on both ends of the floor.  He was a key part in coming out strong and basically putting this game away before the 10 minute mark of the first half.

Putting away a game against a team that was so bad flood played?

Really? Ox had 20 and 11 on 10-14 and jamil shot 70% with more boards and assists

[PGsHeroes32]

First of all, our opinions are just that, opinions, not votes.  The moderators decide the SOTG.  Also, what part of 5 assists and 5 steals don't you understand.  Also, do you know that  other things like excellent defense matter in who gets the SOTG. 

What part about a double double don't you understand?

Or 6>5 is it not?

[bilsu]

Juan was the right choice. We now have 6 wins with 6 different SOTG.

[GGGG]

Putting away a game against a team that was so bad flood played?

Really? Ox had 20 and 11 on 10-14 and jamil shot 70% with more boards and assists

Against a team so bad Flood played.  (That argument works both ways.)

Plenty of people agree with me.  Perhaps you should resign from the board in protest.

[brewcity77]

What part about a double double don't you understand?

Or 6>5 is it not?

Juan was one rebound off a quadruple-nickel.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

How the unnatural carnal knowledge did Juan win this?

Double digit points, 5 assists, 3/4 from 3P and most importantly 5 steals. I don't think we have had anyone get that stat this year...or maybe even last year.

[tower912]

What part about a double double don't you understand?

Or 6>5 is it not?

(A) You never made a choice.   You just cried.
(B) IMO, I don't care if Gardner went for 40 and 40, that stunt at the end DQ'd him.
(C) I don't disagree with anyone who says Jamil deserved it.   I just think Juan's early contributions to get the ball rolling counted more.   
(D) There is no money, no award, the mods pick it based on their own observations and input from us.   You never made a choice.   Make a choice next time.   Early. 

[PGsHeroes32]

(A) You never made a choice.   You just cried.
(B) IMO, I don't care if Gardner went for 40 and 40, that stunt at the end DQ'd him.
(C) I don't disagree with anyone who says Jamil deserved it.   I just think Juan's early contributions to get the ball rolling counted more.   
(D) There is no money, no award, the mods pick it based on their own observations and input from us.   You never made a choice.   Make a choice next time.   Early. 

I think my choice was heavily implied.

Really? A minor shoving match DQ'd him? Personally I love the fire he showed. Obviously don't want it happening frequently at risk of suspension. But being a little upset that someone just stepped on your head...is understandable.

[tower912]

Davante punked the guy.  He didn't like the physical play, missed the shot and pushed the IUPUI player while ostensibly going for the rebound.  Plus, he scored all of his points after Juan had gotten the team rolling.  And you didn't state a preference until after it was decided.   

[PGsHeroes32]

Against a team so bad Flood played.  (That argument works both ways.)

Plenty of people agree with me.  Perhaps you should resign from the board in protest.

It wasn't an argument. The claim was that Juan put the game away. There wasn't anything to put away. The game was never in doubt. In large part because Davante and basically the entire team could score whenever they wanted to.

Difference is, Davante can put up big numbers against good teams as well.

More points, rebounds, better FG%.

All Juan had was more steals and 2 more assists. Davante's advantages in points and rebounds(9 more pts and 7 more rebounds) were almost a double double themselves.

[PGsHeroes32]

Davante punked the guy.  He didn't like the physical play, missed the shot and pushed the IUPUI player while ostensibly going for the rebound.  Plus, he scored all of his points after Juan had gotten the team rolling.  And you didn't state a preference until after it was decided.   

So by your logic, assuming the team gets out to an early lead(very rare sadly) the stud of the game should automatically be the starter who scored the early points?

even if another guy put up 20 and 11?

I know 20 and 11 especially against a really bad team can be expected of Davante and Juan will probably never do this in his college career....but the standard should be the same.

[GGGG]

So by your logic, assuming the team gets out to an early lead(very rare sadly) the stud of the game should automatically be the starter who scored the early points?

even if another guy put up 20 and 11?

I know 20 and 11 especially against a really bad team can be expected of Davante and Juan will probably never do this in his college career....but the standard should be the same.

OUTRAGE!!!!!111!!!!

[tower912]

So by your logic, assuming the team gets out to an early lead(very rare sadly) the stud of the game should automatically be the starter who scored the early points?

even if another guy put up 20 and 11?

I know 20 and 11 especially against a really bad team can be expected of Davante and Juan will probably never do this in his college career....but the standard should be the same.

My argument is that (A) Davante deserves no consideration because of the altercation.   (B) He scored most of his points after MU was up huge, (C) Juan's play got the ball rolling (D) don't wait to make a whining post until after the decision has been made.   I can try to find smaller words if you like.

[PGsHeroes32]

My argument is that (A) Davante deserves no consideration because of the altercation.   (B) He scored most of his points after MU was up huge, (C) Juan's play got the ball rolling (D) don't wait to make a whining post until after the decision has been made.   I can try to find smaller words if you like.

I didn't ask for your argument. I asked for the meaning behind your flawed logic.

I don't know if I can use any smaller or simpler words when stating...

A 20-10 highly efficient double/double was the best performance by anyone who stepped onto the Bradley Center court on December 14th, 2013.

[brewcity77]

I didn't ask for your argument. I asked for the meaning behind your flawed logic.

I don't know if I can use any smaller or simpler words when stating...

A 20-10 highly efficient double/double was the best performance by anyone who stepped onto the Bradley Center court on December 14th, 2013.

And other people, seemingly the majority of other people, disagree. So maybe it's your logic that is flawed.

Juan put up a complete, end-to-end performance and didn't carry himself like an immature child when the scoreboard dictated there was no need to do so. Davante had a great game. He would have been a decent choice. Others, including those who make the decision, feel Juan was a better choice. Why are you crying so much about it?

[tower912]

I didn't ask for your argument. I asked for the meaning behind your flawed logic.

I don't know if I can use any smaller or simpler words when stating...

A 20-10 highly efficient double/double was the best performance by anyone who stepped onto the Bradley Center court on December 14th, 2013.

My logic is that the altercation he started DQ'd him from consideration.  He put up nice numbers.   To me, it is irrelevant.  Stupid behavior trumps good numbers.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

A 20-10 highly efficient double/double was the best performance by anyone who stepped onto the Bradley Center court on December 14th, 2013.

And others are arguing that an 11 point, 4 rebound, 5 assist, 5 steal, 3-4 3P with better than Davante defense performance is better than a 20-10 highly efficient double/double.

Opinions are fun!

[raul]

Brewcity,  that line of juan being 1 rebound from a quadruple -nickel was funny. Yeah I have no problem with Juan winning the honor, 5 steals is very impressive. He makes this a much better team no doubt when he is on the floor..